Hey. The 2016 General Election. What if Hillary is the Nominee?

[onehandle]

Who will you vote for?

28 votes, 5 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Hillary
	18 (64%)
	The RepubliKKKan
	0 (0%)
	Third Party (Example, Ralph Nader, The Libertarian, Xenu... )
	9 (32%)
	I will NOT vote at all if the Candidate is Hillary
	1 (4%)
	5 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[SheilaT]

1. I will be in such despair I won't know what to do.

[Nye Bevan]

8. Do you see Hillary's policies as being drastically different from President Obama's?

I think by and large her policies will be a continuation of his.

And even if she is not your first choice, don't you see just a tiny bit of a silver lining in having the first ever female president?

[lumberjack_jeff]

13. Her 2008 campaign promises were far to the left of Obama's actions. n/t

[merrily]

56. Can you be more specific? And, does it matter? Obama's campaign promises were to her left.

And she was for the Iraq invasion. He wasn't.

You're comparing apples and oranges, promises to actual governing. I think many Democrats have learned a lesson about anyone's campaign promises Watch what they do, not what they say.

Whether a Republican or a Democrat, Hillary has been a life long rightist, except on women's issues. Even though her husband signed DOMA and got Congress to pass DADT, she told a gay questioner in 2008, "I thought we did a great job (on gay issues).

[lumberjack_jeff]

64. I'm not interested in rehashing 2008, but...

http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm

[merrily]

69. No rehash necessary. You compared promises to performance in office, apples and oranges.

Linking me to her website doesn't show she ran to his left

Their differences on the Iraq War were extremely important in that campaign, with that difference being identified as "this whole thing is a fairy tale" by Bubba, one of the most astute politicians of my lifetime. (I think he meant that Obama never had to vote on it, and the alleged differences that supposedly set Obama's campaign apart were imaginary. Nonetheless, Obama was perceived as to Hillary's left on the Iraq War during that campaign.)

Another very important issue of that primary was her running on the individual mandate while he ran on no individual mandate. Yes, when he got into office, he went individual mandate, which proves that you have to compare promises to promises to prove your point, not promises to performance.

The race-based things her campaign did and, in the end, she said herself, did not equal running liberal, either, no matter what she put on her website about that issue.

[lumberjack_jeff]

72. I'm not saying she ran to his left.

I'm saying he actually governed to the right of her promises - and far to the right of his own... even as nebulous and aspirational as they were.

Promises <> actual practice, but if she does as good a job complying with her campaign promises as her husband did, I'm not worried. Obama has done an unusually poor job in that regard. Maybe "unusually poor" is the best possible under the circumstances, maybe not. YMMV.

Of the things I fault Obama for, the individual mandate isn't one of them. Universal=mandatory.

[merrily]

112. Her husband: NAFTA, Telecommunications Act, ending "welfare as we know it" repeal of Glass Steagall

DADT, DOMA.

[Ink Man]

27. Please not again.

IMO in 2008 Hillary was more qualified to be the President. But people wanted to see history made so they voted for Mr Obama. Again. IMO he was not ready for that job. We should not look at the color of their skin or their gender. Let the candidate stand on their ideas, training and expertise.

[Nay]

89. Uh, history would have been made with either one of them -- 1st AA, 1st woman. nt

[SheilaT]

91. No, I don't.

What if it were Sarah Palin who were to be the first female president? Would there be a tiny bit of silver lining there? I don't think so. And I don't think that Hillary Clinton as our First Female President is necessarily a good thing either. She does not represent the future. She is the past. She offers no new ideas. If were are collectively dumb enough to elect her, she will make George W. Bush seem progressive.

[randys1]

77. You REALLY wont know what to do???????????? Do you know ANY Women?

[SheilaT]

93. Yeah, I know women.

As bizarre as this may sound, I'm also a woman.

Part of why I'm in such despair over a Hillary Clinton nomination, is that people here have no clue how despised, even hated, she is outside of places like DU. There is essentially not a single person who is not a Democrat who will vote for here, and there may be a lot of Dems who also won't vote for her.

Please don't get caught up in the rhetoric of: she ran before, she's faced all the challenges, so they are meaningless now. You need to understand that every single charge against her will be amplified a thousand fold if she becomes the nominee. Murderer of Vince Foster? check. Dumb plan for universal health care? check. Married to a philanderer? check.

It will go on and on. There will be zero hope of running a campaign on substantive issues Zero. She can't win. More to the point, we need new people here. All this focus on Hillary Hillary Hillary totally misses the point that it's long since time to move on. She's too old, too much a part of a discredited past.

Elizabeth Warren is the same age, but she's not part of that same discredited past. Ditto Al Franken. Sherrod Brown is only a little younger, but he feels a generation removed from Hillary.

We need to be looking for new leaders, NOT the same old same old.

[shenmue]

129. Um, she isn't despised outside of DU.

Except by Republicans.

She did serve in the Senate, and there was a reason for that. Democrats elected her.

[sabrina 1]

87. I will focus on Local and Congressional races and encourage everyone who doesn't want

Hillary, which is everyone I know on all sides, to write in a Progressive Dem like Barbara Lee eg.

[NCTraveler]

2. If Hillary is the nominee, she will get my time, money, and vote. nt.

[DinahMoeHum]

54. Same here. Only because I will eat broken glass. . .

. . .before I ever pull the lever for another GOoPer.

[Ykcutnek]

3. If there's a wave of blue accompanying her:

[liberal N proud]

4. Those that don't approve will sit out the election and expect different results than this election

Sitting out an election is about the dumbest thing any American can do!

[SolutionisSolidarity]

24. It's almost as dumb as running the same damn failure of an ideology every time,

and wondering why we can't build a Party or fix any of the nations problems. I guess I've been wrong to vote Democrat my life; I thought it was pragmatic but whats so damn pragmatic about enabling a group of con artists like the third way to dominate the American left? If the Democratic Party can't learn, then it must die.

[Jamaal510]

95. The Republicans in Congress

are chiefly why more of the country's problems can't be fixed. The Democrats (even the so-called 3rd-wayers) have pushed for higher minimum wages and more jobs (among other policies that progressives favor), yet a certain party has adamantly been blocking what we want passed.

[SolutionisSolidarity]

110. I know the Republicans are bad.

I've voted a straight Democratic ticket for a decade and a half solely as an anti-Republican move, despite how poor the Democratic alternative has often been. But this isn't working - we saw what happened when we had all the levers of power in 2008-2010. Yes, the Republicans had us on the filibuster, but that was a self-inflicted wound. Democratic activists begged the Senate to set aside precedent and allow for swift action to be taken, and they chose to hamstring themselves rather than empowering liberal activists by setting the bar for popular legislation at 50 or 55 votes.

Even after they failed to change the rules in time to actually give us a *chance* to do some good while we had our opportunity, we had another opportunity to use reconciliation the make serious improvements to the healthcare act and bypass getting the likes of Joseph Lieberman on our side. They chose not to do that, because the Obama administration and Senate leadership cared more about pleasing corporate benefactors than making the law as good as it could have been. And in the end, those critical failures of leadership demoralized the activist base that carried Obama to victory and resulted in less potent legislation. Would the law be so hated now, if the Party had thrown a bone to the liberal base and stuck in a buy-in to medicare or a public option? We couldn't find 50 of the 59/60 senators we had that would vote for it? The bill was always going to have it's detractors, but the way that fight played out ensured that few would be enthusiastically defending it. And that enthusiasm never really came back, despite the (limited) good that the ACA does.

In reliably Democratic areas like New Jersey, California, and New York we ought to be able to do better than this. Democratic primary voters need to do their jobs and start putting decent people on the general election ballots or we'll end up being Liebermaned by our own Party again the next time we have the opportunity to prove our worth to the country. Not every self declared New Democrat is so bad, some are from very conservative areas, and others took the name but have been valued team players. I don't think it's too much to say we shouldn't tolerate Democrats from safe seats consistently joining with the Republicans to attack the Democratic Party, like Booker and Cuomo have. As for Fienstien, she's not as bad as those two, but for California to be represented by a war profiteering hawk like her is a travesty.

[hrmjustin]

5. I always support the Democratic nominee. i hope it is Hillary but if it is someone else...

...that candidate will have my support.

[onehandle]

10. I just look for the D. nt

[lumberjack_jeff]

12. Agree. It's not that tough. n/t

[NOVA_Dem]

6. I don't think she's a good politician and will likely lose to Christy in 2016 n/t.

So we're screwed either way.

[NaturalHigh]

7. Since she is currently my preferred nominee...

I will definitely vote for her.

[Control-Z]

9. I love the "show username" feature! (nt)

[Electric Monk]

97. I'm sure that was the point of this OP, and we'll see similar threads again, over and over.

The beatings will continue until morale improves

[lumberjack_jeff]

11. From the TOS:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

Vote for Democrats.
Winning elections is important — therefore, advocating in favor of Republican nominees or in favor of third-party spoiler candidates that could split the vote and throw an election to our conservative opponents is never permitted on Democratic Underground. But that does not mean that DU members are required to always be completely supportive of Democrats. During the ups-and-downs of politics and policy-making, it is perfectly normal to have mixed feelings about the Democratic officials we worked hard to help elect. When we are not in the heat of election season, members are permitted to post strong criticism or disappointment with our Democratic elected officials, or to express ambivalence about voting for them. In Democratic primaries, members may support whomever they choose. But when general election season begins, DU members must support Democratic nominees (EXCEPT in rare cases where were a non-Democrat is most likely to defeat the conservative alternative, or where there is no possibility of splitting the liberal vote and inadvertently throwing the election to the conservative alternative). For presidential contests, election season begins when both major-party nominees become clear. For non-presidential contests, election season begins on Labor Day. Everyone here on DU needs to work together to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of American government. If you are bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for our candidates during election season, we'll assume you are rooting for the other side.

Do us a favor. Voluntarily comply with the TOS; don't make MIRT hunt you down.

[JustAnotherGen]

14. Come election season

When we are not in the heat of election season, members are permitted to post strong criticism or disappointment with our Democratic elected officials, or to express ambivalence about voting for them. In Democratic primaries, members may support whomever they choose. But when general election season begins, DU members must support Democratic nominees (EXCEPT in rare cases where were a non-Democrat is most likely to defeat the conservative alternative, or where there is no possibility of splitting the liberal vote and inadvertently throwing the election to the conservative alternative). For presidential contests, election season begins when both major-party nominees become clear

.


Until - like June of 2016 - they are all fair game.

[lumberjack_jeff]

49. By all means, support the D nominee of your choosing.

It's something else to reveal ones intention to vote for another party.

[JustAnotherGen]

50. It's funny to me

Everyone is so wrapped up in Clinton, Warren, Sanders -

Not one has shown us a precise platform to be excited for.

How can people be for someone - without even knowing that person's agenda?

I think some of us 'others' - we just want a blood primary and we want more candidates than those three to select from. There's a history of votes, a history of words, a history of activism - and then a plan for the future.

Before DU implodes - I think we should wait and see who all is running.

[lumberjack_jeff]

51. Don't disagree with that.

Re Clinton: We know quite a bit about her 2008 platform, and I found it tolerable if not ideal.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

19. Are you saying that answering this poll with anything but 'Hillary'

is, in itself, a violation of the Terms of Service?

[JustAnotherGen]

21. I was concerned about that too Erich

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

32. Either way, my answer would be the same.

If the Dems run Hillary as their nominee, I will vote for my party's nominee, because I already know enough about Hillary.

If they run someone else, I will evaluate that person and possibly vote for them.

[lumberjack_jeff]

48. If the TOS means what it says, options #2 and #3 are "ban me" buttons.

I think the poll should be locked for that reason.

[yeoman6987]

79. Nobody is getting banned for voting differently from Hillary

That is a fact on this thread!

[LawDeeDah]

68. Juries overrule Terms of Service

Which is a real head scratcher. Why even bother with a ToS especially now that Discussionist teabagger fucks have a direct line here.

[Bobbie Jo]

74. Not that it's really enforced at all....

At this point, it's more like a suggestion.

[True Blue Door]

15. Then I will shut up and be a soldier for Hillary.

Even as she inevitably disgraces us, throws away every advantage trying to run in fear from her opponent, and probably loses despite whatever advantages she inherits.

But right up to the moment of a primary decision, I will denounce that pathetic, nihilistic, Nixon-like, self-absorbed Bush toady Vichy loser and beg the gods of politics to give us a remotely worthy alternative.

[Nye Bevan]

18. That's absolutely fine. I like a vigorous, hard-fought primary battle,

with interesting and contentious debates.

Personally, I support Hillary at this point, but I will not hesitate to vote for any Democrat who is impressive enough to defeat her in the primaries.

[True Blue Door]

31. My hope is that Jerry Brown would run, despite all the reasons he wouldn't.

But in lieu of that, I would be eager to go with Sanders or Warren if either of them can prove capable of assembling a viable national campaign. Of course, I don't rule anyone else out who I haven't thought of yet if they can do it.

Hillary Clinton is a terrible person and a worse Democrat. Her hands are stained with the worst US government crimes of the 21st century, for which she still does not repent. Everything she does is selfish and nihilistic, and doesn't even have the competence to hide it.

Even in the unlikely event that she could win a Presidential election, her Presidency would basically be Nixon with some feel-good rhetoric thrown in - and probably only one term.

[roamer65]

100. Brown/Warren 2016!

[Nye Bevan]

16. The Nader voters certainly taught Gore a lesson in 2000.

So there might have been one or two slightly unpleasant side-effects, but I'm sure they think it was worth it.

[JustAnotherGen]

20. I thought there was an election fraud in Florida?

I could be wrong here? But - I'm pretty sure the Great Recount has been pretty well documented.

[Rex]

25. Even more interesting, Gore won after the final recount.

But the media decided it wasn't a very important topic.

[JustAnotherGen]

28. You know Rex - I knew there was something funny about the statement

I knew it. Thank you for the reality check.

[Rex]

33. Anytime my friend.

Those years are burned into my memory and will never go away. Gore actually won the popular vote - despite losing his home state, despite 100,000 Dems voting for Bush in Florida and Nader's Green party percentage of the vote.

When the dust settled, Gore was the victor...but you know the rest of the story, by then it was way past the election and Bush was already installed by the SCOTUS with the help of James Baker and Karl Rove.

[JustAnotherGen]

38. I love when I play a stupid

And people figure it out!

[Rex]

39. LOL!

[Electric Monk]

98. 9/11/01 sure was convenient for ShrubCo in that regard, as well as all the others.

He really did "hit the trifecta" when it happened. His ratings went up, he got the war in Iraq that he wanted, and this news was largely ignored.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3281271

[Nye Bevan]

26. Fraud or no fraud, who would have won if the Nader voters had voted for Gore instead? (nt)

[Rex]

34. Al Gore. He actually did win if anyone remembers.

But by then the SCOTUS had installed Bush into the WH.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

23. Gore apparently learned a lesson.

Did the Democratic Party? I guess we'll find out in 2016 if the lesson ends up being repeated.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

36. They taught him that not appealing the left has consequences.

Just so you know, I did hold my nose and vote for Al.

[JustAnotherGen]

17. There is actually a Hillary Clinton protected group at DU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1107



I just learned that. I suspect it will have a lot more traffic January 2017?

[Capt. Obvious]

43. In January 2017

after Biden offers her another run at SOS.

[JustAnotherGen]

44. Now see Captain Obvious

I would be okay with that.

[Rex]

22. My standard response is the same no matter what year it is.

I will vote for whoever is the primary candidate. That's what yellowdogs do.

[Waiting For Everyman]

29. I don't like Hillary, but she'd still be lightyears better than any Repub.

A bad choice is still a choice that matters. Why do people only expect perfect choices in politics? In everyday real life we decide plenty of things that are lousy choices, where both options are bad, and think nothing of it.

I for one, have to choose between two or more options I don't like constantly. Who are these people who have nothing but good choices in their lives, to expect politics to be the same way? I don't believe it.

A choice is a choice. Not making a choice is still making a choice too.

[riqster]

30. I'll vote for a cheese log if it beats the Repubes.

[Scootaloo]

35. Can we get that cheese log an exploratory comittee? I'd prefer it to Clinton

[riqster]

37. Depends. If it has bacon, cheddar, or port wine, maybe.

[Rex]

40. Sadly a cheese log has more purpose than the entire GOP.

[riqster]

41. And will feed more people than the entire GOP.

[Rex]

42. So true.

[roamer65]

101. I'll vote for the nutty cheese log. N/t

...with bacon!

[riqster]

111. The Bacon Wing of the party!

I'm in.

[hobbit709]

45. I will probably hold my nose with one hand, carry a barf bag with the other

And clench the stylus between my teeth to vote.

And kick anyone's ass that thinks that I'm not showing enough enthusiasm.

[AtomicKitten]

46. lol

[Rex]

53. Shit.

[KamaAina]

47. Like the man said, "There is a difference between bad and worse,"

"and it is far sharper than that between good and better".

"The man" being Robert A. Heinlein.

[Old Nick]

52. I'll vote for her

But I infinitely prefer this guy:

[merrily]

55. In reality, I will seriously consider emigrating. (not hyperbole).

If the Democratic Party runs another New Democrat and, to boot one associated with WalMart and The Family, and one who urged her fellow Senators to vote for the Iraq War, I will know that America, as I once knew and loved her has changed irretrievably.

[NCTraveler]

57. Is it me or do I see a couple of people....

Is it me or do I see a couple of people who clicked the third party option who are extremely vocal supporters of anything Obama does. To the point they don't even like common sense arguments made against some of Obamas actions. Obama and Hillary are two peas in a pod. Hillary holds a little better understanding of and hatred towards republicans, but two peas in a pod none-the-less. It is mind boggling to me how anyone could be a huge supporter of Obama yet not love Hillarys ideology. Dislike her personally when compared to Obama? Of course. But to not love her as a politician if you love Obama? Just weird.

[Awsi Dooger]

58. Leftover from 2008

Anyone here who supported Hillary during the primaries was attacked and threatened. Lists were literally passed around via private messaging. It was disgraceful and juvenile. This site lost many valuables contributors who never returned.

[NCTraveler]

59. I am a Hillary supporter and was around during that time.

Until a couple of months ago I had a Hillary avatar. It was a pretty brutal time around here. I get that. I just don't get making it one hundred percent personal (Obama,Hillary) when we are talking about politics.

[DawgHouse]

83. Yep, I remember! n/t

[leftofcool]

106. Yep, we vowed to never give another dime to DU because of it.

[L0oniX]

116. That does it! I'm going back to DU2.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

61. During the 2008 primary

Hillary allowed her surrogates to use racist dogwhistles against Obama without repudiating them afterwards. On that basis, there are those who will not vote for her, yet still were fine with Obama.

[Stellar]

71. That's one of the main reasons I don like Bill or Hillary!

Most African Americans find it difficult to like them anymore, I don't care what she stands for. And Bill was the main one. Like you said, I've heard NOTHING from Hillary about it at all.

My mother loved her some Bill Clinton. She had a picture of Bill Clinton and MLK hung in her den for years. After their b.s. in 2008 she cut Bills picture off. She has since passed away.

[NCTraveler]

121. Please show the racism you are attaching to Hillary that is so egregious....

that is would be better to vote third party. You are attributing racism to Hillary to the point you are saying it is acceptable to elect a republican over her.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

122. Three points.

1. I love that fact that you want me to show 'egregious' racism, and not just racism. It points out that you know dogwhistles were used, but don't consider them 'egregious'.

2. I'm not your personal reference librarian. I'm not trying to 'prove' anything to you or anyone else. I was just pointing out why people who DO remember those actions in 2007-2008 might not vote for Hillary. You're free to go read diaries from Daily Kos from back during the 2008 primary, it was well documented at the time. You're not paying me to dig it up for you, so you can dig it up yourself, if you actually care.

3. As to your last sentence, nope. No more than millennials who refused to vote for Dems in 2014 were saying 'it's acceptable to elect a Republican'. I'm saying what I said, not what you want to pretend I said.

[NCTraveler]

123. Didn't think so. nt.

[joshcryer]

66. Don't see it.

Only recognize one nick in there and they couldn't possibly be mistaken for an Obama supporter.

[regnaD kciN]

60. I can't stand HRC, but...

...I know full well that any Republican opponent will be much, much worse.

(That doesn't mean I won't support someone else in the primaries, though.)

[rock]

62. There's no need to make it a hypothetical

I will vote for the Democrat.

[Reter]

63. I'm not voting for a Clinton, ever

President Obama just sent 1,500 troops to Iraq. Clinton would send 10,000. So I should vote for her just because Romney or Jeb or Christie will send 20,000? No thanks. Not when the Independent will send 0.

[onehandle]

65. Welcome to Democratic Underground.

Independent Underground is elsewhere.

[KinMd]

67. Which Republican ( who could actually get the nomination)

would you prefer to Hillary Clinton?

[Stellar]

70. I do not like the Clintons...neither one.

But I will hold my nose and vote for her...dammit!

[TheKentuckian]

73. In 2016 I will support Yarmuth, I will work to defeat Randroid, and if Hillary Clinton

or God forbid the likes of Andrew Cumo are on my November ballot I will do a write in or vote 3rd party depending on the options.

The only vote for Hillary I would make in 2016 is if in a close primary it is between her or Cuomo and I will vote for her to steer the party from even worse but if any of that sort are on the general ballot, just mark the party as throwing away my vote for that office in that year and no I don't care if the TeaPubliKlans run a composite clone of Stalin, Hitler, Thatcher, Raygun, bin Laden, and Attila.

[Shoulders of Giants]

75. Third Party

I live in Illinois, so my vote at the presidential level doesn't matter. Therefore, I might as well vote for someone I support. If I lived in a swing state, I might think differently.

[randys1]

76. As ill as it makes me to see ANY DU folks not checking the Hillary box, nose held or not

I do like this thread and poll, can we keep it up at the top of something somewhere?

PINNED?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

78. I'll vote for her, though not very enthusiastically.

I've never cared much for her but she's better than whatever troglodyte the GOPers might come up with.

[Politicalboi]

80. We need somebody new/younger/no baggage

But if she's the ONLY choice, then I'll have to hold my nose when I vote.

[mylye2222]

81. It will be an insult to true Dems.

[True Blue Door]

82. Then we're screrewed, man. Totally non-heinous, bros.

[Starry Messenger]

84. Supreme Court, people.

C'mon, think.

[Bradical79]

85. Of course Id vote for Hillary

I'll vote for any Democratic nominee over the Republican candidate. Unlike some local races the presidential election really is a binary choice. We don't have a multiparty runoff system, no third party stands the slightest chance without big changes in the way our election is run. I'm not a big fan of the burn it all to the ground strategy of giving the Republicans more power as a wakeup call.

[PAProgressive28]

86. I've never been this guy but...

at this point I don't think I can vote for her unless PA is a key, absolute no-doubt battleground state on Election Day 2016. Especially if Obama doesn't stand up to the GOP over the next two years and we get Keystone & TPP among other things. I will absolutely show up to vote for the other races. I'm not someone who will ever skip voting entirely. It will be important to get Pat Toomey out of the Senate and help regain some of the more local offices.

I just feel that at some point you have to ask yourself when enough is enough.

[kentuck]

88. I will vote for her but I think she may not be tough enough?

Not because she is a woman. There are a lot of men that may not be tough enough either. I'd like to see someone like Howard Dean.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

90. Hillary has exceeded my nose holding mechanism's abilities.

[Union Scribe]

92. He's making a list

he'll keep it on file,
to test DUers, McCarthy style.
Banny Claus is coming to town!

[Jamaal510]

94. I have too much at stake to not support the Dem nominee.

Despite HC's hawkish foreign policy, her domestic politics are in line with most other progressives, and I'll still take her in a heartbeat over any Republican or 3rd party fringe-dweller. And I damn sure refuse to sit out any election.

[Logical]

96. For the first time in my life I'll get drunk on Election Day, and vote for Hillary! Nt

[roamer65]

99. I'll vote anti-Rethug as usual.

But I'm not going to actively campaign for her. She's DLC.

No more Bushes and No more Clintons.

Now watch it turn out to be what I've predicted.

Hillary vs Jeb....BLAH!

[ZombieHorde]

102. Largely depends on where I live.

I really hope it's not Clinton versus Bush though. That would be depressing for me.

[Rex]

103. What do we get if we vote for Xenu?

[Electric Monk]

104. Treehouse Of Horror VII

[daleanime]

105. Hey, this poll is busted...

where the "we're screwed" option?

[Warpy]

107. I will do all I can to stop her during the primaries

If she is the nominee, I will hold my nose and waste my vote on her.

I will not be happy at all.

[Spirochete]

108. She's not old enough to run

Good god! It was only 10 years ago, she was doing that Lizzie McGuire show...

[Blue_In_AK]

109. Too soon.

A lot can happen in two years.

[iamthebandfanman]

113. Ill do it..

and then Ill be on DU telling all of you how much I hated it

until we figure out a way to get money out of elections and politics.. there isn't much hope for a third party..

id love to have a system with 4+ parties.. where people have to form coalitions and work together with another group to get something done... when you have only three tho, it always tends to drain from one of the major parties ...

something that would be nice as well would be making election day a holiday ..

if we don't start getting out and getting folks to come out and push the button .. we are in trouble.

the poor have been the REAL silent majority in this country since its founding.. its about time they be heard.

[L0oniX]

114. Someone's collecting usernames.

[Le Taz Hot]

115. Stupid poll.

Few will officially admit to voting third party because of TOS rules.

[hrmjustin]

117. That rule only applies at the time just before election once we have a clear nominee.

[Le Taz Hot]

118. And most people are unware of that.

It's pretty well known that admitting voting for a Third Party here is anathema. People have been tombstoned for FAR less.

[hrmjustin]

119. Yes they have but they won't if they answer this question.

[onehandle]

120. Nah.

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They will not agree to discipline third party bolstering here.

[baldguy]

124. I will vote for the Democratic Party nominee for President.

I will vote for the Democratic Party nominee for US Senator.

I will vote for the Democratic Party nominee for Congress.

I will vote for the Democratic Party nominee for State Senator.

I will vote for the Democratic Party nominee for State Representative.

I will vote for the Democratic Party nominee for Country Legislature.

I will vote for the Democratic Party nominee for School Board.

I will vote for the Democratic Party nominee for Dog Catcher.

[11 Bravo]

125. Un-fucking-believable. 31% (as of this writing) of the voters on an ...

allegedly Democratic message board would be willing to ignore the lessons of 2000, and roll the dice on allowing a Republican to assume the Presidency and almost certainly oversee the installation of 2 or more Supreme Court justices.
Great idea! Let's subject the country to generations of regressive policies because you have a purity test sad.

[Historic NY]

126. If Hillary was so bad then why did Obama choose her as

SOS, one of the toughest jobs there is in the administration. Surely it wasn't because she was the loser, unless thats a qualification being a losing candidate.

[Bettie]

127. I'll vote for whoever the nominee is

In the end, it probably doesn't matter anyway. The game is rigged and we (those of us who aren't the 1%) are not going to win in any case.

I used to have hope that the right candidates would bring change and make things better.

These days? There are few candidates who have the money to get elected who are still willing to fight for those of us who aren't already wealthy. We have no representation and it really doesn't matter who purports to represent us, since most of them work for the corporate persons, instead of the actual people.

[TBF]

128. It's starting early ...