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okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:05 PM Nov 2014

I don't know why you folks keep saying "pain is going to be inflicted".

about the worst thing that is going to happen is the keystone pipeline, then some minor stuff like small changes to the ACA. after that it is 2016 campaign season and the repugs are going to go on vacation again so the weird ones in their party won't get the chance to say or do something stupid.

now if they hold congress and get a repug elected as president then yeah there will be some pain inflicted. but nothing much is going to happen these last two years of president obama's term.

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I don't know why you folks keep saying "pain is going to be inflicted". (Original Post) okieinpain Nov 2014 OP
For starters, kiss any hopes of curbing climate change bye-bye derby378 Nov 2014 #1
well with the way the senate has been screwed up the all this time okieinpain Nov 2014 #20
In 6-9 months when the next recession strikes thanks to Austerity, much pain will be KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #2
they aren't going to do that until after the 2016. now they will okieinpain Nov 2014 #9
Sorry I wasn't clearer. The Republican Congress of 2012 already cut Food Stamps in the KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #10
agreed. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2014 #19
The worst thing won't be Keystone Proud Public Servant Nov 2014 #3
and sorry to say but president obama would have probably done all okieinpain Nov 2014 #18
Lets revisit that thought in 2016 and see if you feel the same way. liberal N proud Nov 2014 #4
i will. I've been listening to all of the shows and no one okieinpain Nov 2014 #11
That is a big mistake liberal N proud Nov 2014 #21
LOL. probably but it is information. you just have to mix it with other stuff to okieinpain Nov 2014 #22
Zactly. progressoid Nov 2014 #35
I don't think they'll be taking as many vacation days Politicalboi Nov 2014 #5
if they are in town they will not do much, just a bunch of talking. okieinpain Nov 2014 #17
ACA is probably gone; SCOTUS is working on it right now. WhiteTara Nov 2014 #6
nothing will happen for these two years. but if they get the wh okieinpain Nov 2014 #13
They have a SCOTUS that carries water for them JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #27
exactly and they can do what they want whether we have the senate or not. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2014 #29
Yeah JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #31
if that's what the supreme court wants to do they can. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2014 #49
They sure can JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #50
That's where the pain will come in. There is much that needs to be done these Autumn Nov 2014 #7
The clowne court is going to destroy ACA onecaliberal Nov 2014 #8
Oh, why is it that I expect 'Priority 5' of V.A. benefits to be sharply curtailed? HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #12
oklahoma sucks. the only reason i'm here is because born and raised. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2014 #14
I won't comment on OK, but I think 2 senators wanting to cutback on vet's health HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #16
yeah but don't forget we had the senate for the last two years and okieinpain Nov 2014 #28
"Small changes to the ACA"? NightWatcher Nov 2014 #15
This will be disasterous for many, especially the working poor. n/t MerryBlooms Nov 2014 #23
they were going to do this even if we kept the senate. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2014 #25
But it will be that much harder for us to get any fix through now. And they are convincing pnwmom Nov 2014 #33
yeah you're right about the but dems in the senate haven't been okieinpain Nov 2014 #45
It does not sound good at all riversedge Nov 2014 #51
ACA vadermike Nov 2014 #24
LOL, we will be if they get the wh in 2016. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2014 #26
I'm a little more worried than that, but not nearly as gloomy as some. Hoyt Nov 2014 #30
agree. but i do hope we can get back some senate seats in 2016 and of course okieinpain Nov 2014 #41
We have to get some seats back and a Dem Perz, or we truly are Hoyt Nov 2014 #43
yeah buddy. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2014 #48
The Supreme Court has taken a case to overturn Obamacare subsidies in most states, pnwmom Nov 2014 #32
In a world governed by the sane... lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #34
By itself it couldn't have. But if the House had lost seats and wasn't feeling pnwmom Nov 2014 #36
how about the death of your child from lack of medical care? Oh, I see you didn't experience that so Stargazer99 Nov 2014 #37
i really don't think anything is going to happen the next two years okieinpain Nov 2014 #44
Unemployment? Food stamps? Shutdowns? Orsino Nov 2014 #38
they've done those already. i really don't think they will want to okieinpain Nov 2014 #46
so not true. What else? voter rights will be diminished at an even faster pace cali Nov 2014 #39
Read Paul Ryan's Budget HockeyMom Nov 2014 #40
"Fast-tracking" and the TPP will be pushed hard, if that happens the U.S. economy is screwed Corruption Inc Nov 2014 #42
i hate to say it, but i think president obama was going to go with those okieinpain Nov 2014 #47

derby378

(30,252 posts)
1. For starters, kiss any hopes of curbing climate change bye-bye
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:08 PM
Nov 2014

As the ice caps shrink, sea levels keep rising. Take a good look at Miami Beach - while it still exists.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
20. well with the way the senate has been screwed up the all this time
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:30 PM
Nov 2014

it's been basically the same thing as the repugs running it. I don't see why the dems can't do the same thing.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
2. In 6-9 months when the next recession strikes thanks to Austerity, much pain will be
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:13 PM
Nov 2014

inflicted thanks to the shredded social safety net. All of this additional pain is entirely, absolutely, unnecessary. And it will all be the Republicans' fault. Sure, President Obama signed the Farm Bill that cut Food Stamps, but he did so under the implied threat of yet another government shut-down, IIRC.

Maybe the economy will keep improving. One can hope.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
9. they aren't going to do that until after the 2016. now they will
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:18 PM
Nov 2014

probably push some abortion bills and cut money to foreign countries, but they will hold on anything that might get the people upset. best to let them sleep till after the 2016 election.

if they get everything then yeah we might all start looking at canada.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
10. Sorry I wasn't clearer. The Republican Congress of 2012 already cut Food Stamps in the
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:20 PM
Nov 2014

latest Farm Bill. And they also did a number on unemployment insurance (the emergency extension portion thereof), although i don't remember specific details right off-hand. Point is, the next downturn will see suffering exacerbated.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
3. The worst thing won't be Keystone
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:14 PM
Nov 2014

It'll be TPP. The second-worse thing will be chained CPI. Keystone comes in third.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
18. and sorry to say but president obama would have probably done all
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:27 PM
Nov 2014

three of those even if we had kept the senate.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
11. i will. I've been listening to all of the shows and no one
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:21 PM
Nov 2014

thinks they are going to go after anything to big. I pretty sure they just want to do enough to get keep their base engaged. feel sorry for women's rights and minorities (of which i'm one of). but elections have consequences.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
22. LOL. probably but it is information. you just have to mix it with other stuff to
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:41 PM
Nov 2014

get an idea of what's going on.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
5. I don't think they'll be taking as many vacation days
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:15 PM
Nov 2014

Their game plan is to make it look like they are actually doing something, so going on vacation I think, is going to be limited.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
17. if they are in town they will not do much, just a bunch of talking.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:26 PM
Nov 2014

lol, in oklahoma all of the repugs commercials involved guns, church and obamacare. nothing about what they would do just obamacare bad, I shoot guns and love me some church. lol. millions of dollars to talk about shit.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
6. ACA is probably gone; SCOTUS is working on it right now.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:17 PM
Nov 2014

Then there's womens' rights to our bodies, Keystone, fracking, land degradation, cutting all safety nets and if we lose the WH in 2016 we may just have our SS moved to the stock market to be stolen.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
13. nothing will happen for these two years. but if they get the wh
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:22 PM
Nov 2014

and congress then yeah there will be problems.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
50. They sure can
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 06:39 PM
Nov 2014

So how will you overcome it when blacks aren't allowed to vote anymore? Asians? Asian Indians? I live in NJ so that's what the immigrants who surround me "look like".

Will you say fiddle dee? Or will you fight for us?

Autumn

(45,108 posts)
7. That's where the pain will come in. There is much that needs to be done these
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:17 PM
Nov 2014

last 2 years of Obama term. There's this little thing called climate change. The repugs have 2 years to fuck the economy 6 ways to Sunday, although it won't take them no time at all. I could go on but why bother.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
8. The clowne court is going to destroy ACA
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:17 PM
Nov 2014

Keystone is game over for the environment. I don't know why our party can't figure out that the climate changes we are experiencing IS pain. people lose their lives, and all the things they've worked for their entire lives because of the climate.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
12. Oh, why is it that I expect 'Priority 5' of V.A. benefits to be sharply curtailed?
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:21 PM
Nov 2014

Well, it's because I know that Oklahoma senators think we shouldn't give benefits to indigent vets.

Bad shit is coming.

COUNT ON IT. But avoid protecting yourself from shit with Koch brand toilet tissue.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
16. I won't comment on OK, but I think 2 senators wanting to cutback on vet's health
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:26 PM
Nov 2014

in the majority party is important.

The represent around 4% of the senators in control. They WILL get to have a line in the funding for the V.A.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
28. yeah but don't forget we had the senate for the last two years and
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:50 PM
Nov 2014

couldn't get anything done. so I would expect the dems in the senate will be able to do the same thing to the repugs. I just hope they find a better book to read then dr. seuss.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
33. But it will be that much harder for us to get any fix through now. And they are convincing
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 03:07 PM
Nov 2014

themselves and the media that the public is on their side.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
45. yeah you're right about the but dems in the senate haven't been
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 05:06 PM
Nov 2014

fixing anything any way because of the repugs holding up everything. I do think one of the bad things about the mid-terms is the repugs have amunition to get the koch brothers and their ilk that if they want the white house they will have to open the wallets big time.

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
24. ACA
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:44 PM
Nov 2014

ACA probably done. No dem will be elected in a very long time. Hello one party state. We are screwed bad

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
30. I'm a little more worried than that, but not nearly as gloomy as some.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 03:01 PM
Nov 2014

I doubt the TPP will be finished anytime soon, so it will be part of 2016 elections. As much as I would prefer no pipeline, I'm hopeful that if it is approved, we get some environmental laws that have more positive impact on environment. The ACA case will go our way. Republicans won't be as punitive now that they can take credit for things, kind of like the 2005 Medicare drug coverage that was the only good thing to come out of George war bush's regime. At least, I hope.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
32. The Supreme Court has taken a case to overturn Obamacare subsidies in most states,
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 03:06 PM
Nov 2014

that is, all the states that use the Federal exchange. If we had a Democratic Congress there would be no problem in changing the wording so that there is no question that the subsidies are available in every state.

With a Republican Congress there is no chance. There will be much pain if millions of Americans now lose their insurance coverage.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
34. In a world governed by the sane...
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 03:11 PM
Nov 2014

... that lawsuit would be laughed out of court. The ACA makes clear that the federal exchange is the proxy for state exchanges in states that don't comply, and at any rate, a dem senate couldn't have done anything to mitigate an insane SC ruling.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
36. By itself it couldn't have. But if the House had lost seats and wasn't feeling
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 03:15 PM
Nov 2014

that the public had given them a mandate, they might have been more willing to agree to a fix in the language. Instead they're feeling empowered to enact their whole agenda.

Stargazer99

(2,585 posts)
37. how about the death of your child from lack of medical care? Oh, I see you didn't experience that so
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 03:47 PM
Nov 2014

there is no pain. Cutting food stamps, hungry people, there is no pain because you are not one of them and of course we know the poor and working poor mean nothing to this country except to take from

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
44. i really don't think anything is going to happen the next two years
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 05:04 PM
Nov 2014

that they haven't been doing the last two years. now if they keep congress and win the wh in 2016 you won't hear me saying this. I'll be trying to get to california or canada.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
39. so not true. What else? voter rights will be diminished at an even faster pace
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 04:11 PM
Nov 2014

Fast track will pass and we'll get the TPP and TTIP which contain a plethora of truly dreadful things. The social safety net will be further eroded. The chained CPI may get the go ahead.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
40. Read Paul Ryan's Budget
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 04:36 PM
Nov 2014

That tells you all you need to know about what direction they want to take this counry in. Of the Rich, For the Rich, and By the Rich. Screw your if you are unemployed, don't own your own business, poor/middle class, minoroity/female/gay, non-christian, old, or sick. Too bad for you. You are not one of "us", We Rule the World!!!!

Enough? Who did I leave out?

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