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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 04:39 PM Nov 2014

The Democrats should agree to a repeal of the medical device tax

which isn't critical to the ACA, in exchange for a fix in the language of the ACA that makes clear everyone on the Federal exchange is eligible for subsidies (rendering moot any decision by SCOTUS on the case against the subsidies that it has just agreed to take).

Yes, we could instead choose to stand on our principles and take a chance on this Supreme Court. Or we could do some horse-trading.

What do you think?

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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. Why would Boehner make that deal?
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 04:43 PM
Nov 2014

SCOTUS is going to kill the ACA. Last thing he wants to do is stop that.

Our enemies are soulless sociopaths.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
5. Maybe he wouldn't. But he is going to want to prove that he can actually
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 04:45 PM
Nov 2014

accomplish something -- i.e. pass some bills that don't get vetoed. A compromise bill accepted by both sides wouldn't get vetoed.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. That is small potatoes compared to killing health care
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 04:48 PM
Nov 2014

reform for the next 30 years.

Nope. Only real option is to pressure states to take over exchanges.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
6. Everything's supposed to be revenue-neutral. Where would the $ come from?
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 04:48 PM
Nov 2014

How would you propose making up for the lost tax income? Medicare benefits?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
14. They're already saving more than they expected so they don't need the small amount from this. n/t
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 05:32 PM
Nov 2014
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
15. I looked it up. The IRS reported getting $913.4 mil in 2nd and 3rd quarters of 2013.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 05:56 PM
Nov 2014

You seem very cavalier about what is a small amount, and what's not needed. It's a 2.3% tax, not exactly breaking anybody's back, there. Whose ox is being gored by it?

tritsofme

(17,380 posts)
8. They'd never take that deal. They'll get the medical device repeal for almost nothing.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 04:51 PM
Nov 2014

Enough Democrats support it that it is not really a big bargaining chip.

I don't know what the demands would be, but they will seek a much higher ransom in the event of a SCOTUS ruling that cripples subsidies.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
13. The main funding comes from the savings they get from not having to pay
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 05:31 PM
Nov 2014

hospitals and other providers for uninsured indigent patients. This is not a critical funding source and there have always been some Dems willing to forgo it.

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