Ft. Lauderdale mayor's words about feeding homeless. What a philosophy.

[madfloridian]

90-Year-Old Good Samaritan Sends Unwavering Message After Getting Arrested for Feeding Homeless

Abbott explained why police decided to fingerprint him on the spot and issue him a citation, rather than arrest him:

“They didn’t have the gumption to move in on us. They were afraid, afraid of public opinion.”

And the words of the mayor shocked me. He doesn't sound much like I have always thought a Democratic leader should sound.

Despite the negative public reaction, Ft. Lauderdale Mayor Jack Seiler defended the new city ordinance, claiming it was set in place to help the homeless better themselves:

“The experts have all said if you are going to simply feed them outdoors to get them from breakfast to lunch to dinner, all you’re doing is enabling that cycle of homelessness. They don’t receive the aid and assistance they need to receive.”

In Florida the homeless, the needy, the poor, the sick....are NOT getting what they need from Rick Scott and the Rick Scott Republicans who rule.

So I find it sad that Jack Seiler would deprive them of food with the excuse that it is not enough.

[msanthrope]

1. My understanding is that the ordinance passed last month requires

sanitation facilities (toilets and handwashing stations) for feeding, and that it be primarily indoors. It was suggested that the meals be moved to a church with the facilities about a block away.

Do you have any info on the ordinance? I'd like to know if it differs from the one passed in the 90s, which was successfully challenged.

I hope Abbott wins...or in the best of both worlds, the city provides sanitation facilities for outdoor feeding.

[madfloridian]

6. Abbott's group must provide porta potties.

Here's more. Still not finding very specific stuff

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/03/fort-lauderdale-feeding-homeless_n_6094234.html

[undeterred]

2. Eating, keeping warm, and sleeping...

They're addictions.

[Wellstone ruled]

3. Sounds like this came straight out of the

John Birch Societies play book from the late thirties. So much hatred.

[madfloridian]

7. I am reading Wrapped in the Flag, and yes it does sound that way.

Claire Conner said something about today's laws reminding her of growing up in the Birch Society.

[Fumesucker]

4. Double plus compassionate

[Rex]

5. "enabling that cycle of homelessness" IOW, let them shuffle off and die in a ditch.

Wow. Just imagine showing compassion to the downtrodden from morning till night? Without wanting a dime in return.

That's some scary shit right there...might have to go rub my $2 bill to feel better.

[madfloridian]

8. I think Ft Lauderdale leaders truly believe homelessness is a choice.

It is a condition, not anyone's real choice.

It makes us look so heartless here in Florida.

[Recursion]

9. Ugh. That's only half of the "housing first" strategy

"Housing first" has worked really well in cities where it has been tried, and it does include some enforcement actions, but the crucial step that Florida is missing here is you have to get people into housing before anything else.

[madfloridian]

10. Even on an empty stomach?

FL leaders are not fond of low cost housing.

[Recursion]

12. You can feed them when they're in the office getting their housing assignment

That's what NYC does IIRC. But pretty much before anything else, get them a bed they can rely on.

[madfloridian]

13. Who do you think should do that?

Just curious.

And should folks like Abbott wait on a govt agency to provide shelter before they feed them?

[Recursion]

14. Sorry, I'm criticizing Florida here

I'm saying they're completely getting the way other places have shown this to work backwards.

[madfloridian]

16. ...

Okay thanks.

[flvegan]

11. What halfwit "experts" said that?

Yes, ENABLING folks to be homeless. Helping them to be homeless, because that's obviously what they want.

Sometimes, it's a dollar. Or a meal.

Would someone please call The Idiot Store as I feel they may be running low having exported so many to this discussion.

Rick Scott/Skeletor isn't going to help them as he can't steal anything from them.

[Odin2005]

18. probably some Social-Darwinist EvoPsych fucker at the AEI like Charles Murray.

[flvegan]

19. Do we have an acronym for that yet?

[lpbk2713]

15. What a load of BS

"They don’t receive the aid and assistance they need to receive.”

An empty stomach can't wait for the bureaucratic wheels to turn. It can
take weeks for one piece of paper to move from one desk to the next.

[Odin2005]

17. This is classic reactionary, anti-human, Social Darwinist, Eugenicist thinking.

"If you feed the poors they will just breed more poors"

They see us as wild animals, not human beings.