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wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:14 AM Nov 2014

Sorry: Democrats don’t care about your anti-Hillary trolling

A “concern troll” is Internet slang for a person who pessimistically points out problems who do not exist from a position of helpfulness in order to manipulate rivals into undermining themselves with doubt and negativity.

Despite their midterm gains, Republicans (and progressives) are helpfully warning Democrats that Hillary Clinton is an unelectable loser whose candidacy is doomed. How "nice" of them to try to prevent Democrats from making a huge error like nominating Clinton. This conservative concern trolling over Hillary Clinton exists for one reason: Republicans have no path to 270 electoral votes against her.

Devastatingly for Republicans (and progressives), the same electorate that preferred Republicans in this election due poor Democratic campaigns still prefers Hillary. National exit polls, which proved accurate as election night wore on, showed voters want Clinton (44 percent) over Jeb Bush (28 percent), Rand Paul (25 percent), Chris Christie and Rick Perry (24 percent each). Ouch. Adjusting those numbers to account for the youth and minority voters who didn't show up, and Clinton's lead would be higher. Yes, those exit polls showed the midterm electorate pretty much split in a hypothetical matchup between Mitt Romney (46 percent) and Clinton (45 percent), but again, adjusting those numbers to account for Presidential year turnout would result in 48-42 Clinton advantage versus Romney.

Those stunning results prompted Forbes magazine to declare Clinton the 2014 elections' big winner. It mean Clinton remains popular with Americans despite President Obama’s polling struggles. A mid-July Gallup poll pegged Hillary Clinton as the most popular candidate due to a 55 percent approval rating. Clinton’s favorability dwarfed Elizabeth Warren’s (21 percent) who Republicans keep hoping will run against Hillary. Clinton also buried all potential Republican rivals, including Mike Huckabee and Christie (33 percent each), Rick Perry and Paul (32 percent each), Paul Ryan and Bush (31 percent each), Marco Rubio (27 percent), Ted Cruz (25 percent), and Scott Walker (18 percent).

Republicans (and progressives) like to claim Clinton's numbers have tumbled since she left the Obama administration, because of her book true. As usual, the data proves otherwise; her favorability has not dropped significantly since the 2013 Quinnipiac poll that put her approval at 61 percent and made her the most popular national politician. Every Republican named in that poll was only about half as popular, with numbers in the mid-30s.

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Italics mine. Links at article.

http://www.examiner.com/article/sorry-republicans-democrats-don-t-care-about-your-anti-hillary-concern-trolling?cid=rss

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Sorry: Democrats don’t care about your anti-Hillary trolling (Original Post) wyldwolf Nov 2014 OP
Is that the same examiner.com that has all those human face and bones on Mars stories? hobbit709 Nov 2014 #1
It is. I guess they someone infiltrate their 100% legit references, too wyldwolf Nov 2014 #2
the thing I'm hearing from progressives about Hillary Enrique Nov 2014 #3
I agree re 'electability' JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #8
If disagreeing with Hillary Clinton's positions is defined as "concern trolling" by her boosters, myrna minx Nov 2014 #4
You can say that again Myrna davidpdx Nov 2014 #10
Correct. 840high Nov 2014 #16
interesting edit in the headline. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #5
'Nice try though' wyldwolf Nov 2014 #6
You think you're gonna make friends here by using the word progressive as a pejorative? tularetom Nov 2014 #14
Keep digging! GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #7
Nice, so anyone who dislikes Hillary is a Republican troll? davidpdx Nov 2014 #9
Notice how Clinton supporters NEVER argue for Hillary based on her policy positions. Dawgs Nov 2014 #13
Oh, I've noticed davidpdx Nov 2014 #20
Lol. You're spiralling. Union Scribe Nov 2014 #11
Secretary Clinton will lose TshaiRedhair Nov 2014 #12
Yawn, here comes the thought police again Lurks Often Nov 2014 #15
You do HRC a disservice by using the RW examiner as a source. FSogol Nov 2014 #17
I suppose if I was suffering from dysentery, and ... 11 Bravo Nov 2014 #18
Are many Progressives not Dems? You appear to separate the two. Broward Nov 2014 #19

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
3. the thing I'm hearing from progressives about Hillary
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:34 AM
Nov 2014

is about her policies.

The above OP is part of a pattern I'm seeing already. Hillary supporters, right-wingers, MSM pundits, working together to frame the 2016 primaries as ENTIRELY about electibility. Doing everything they can to avoid substance entering the contest.

JustAnotherGen

(31,907 posts)
8. I agree re 'electability'
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 08:11 AM
Nov 2014

The groups you mentioned would be wise to remember that a lot folks - myself included - felt someone like Obama was not electable in 2006. By late 2007 - he was. Go figure.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
4. If disagreeing with Hillary Clinton's positions is defined as "concern trolling" by her boosters,
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:45 AM
Nov 2014

we're in for a LONG two years.

In my day, disagreeing with a political candidate's positions was called policy debate.

wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
6. 'Nice try though'
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:59 AM
Nov 2014

One of those cute little things progressives say when they have nothing else to say. What's next 'thanks for playing?'

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
14. You think you're gonna make friends here by using the word progressive as a pejorative?
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 09:57 AM
Nov 2014

You might be happier with your own people over at freerepublic.com

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
9. Nice, so anyone who dislikes Hillary is a Republican troll?
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 08:36 AM
Nov 2014

Your credibility is shot to shit when you make claims like that. This is one of several threads where DUers who support Clinton have attacked other DUers who don't. In fact the slimeball in the other thread decided to paint everyone who dislikes Hillary Clinton as a sexist. You guys are doing a very good job of broad brushing those who have legitimate issues. But please by all means, proceed.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
13. Notice how Clinton supporters NEVER argue for Hillary based on her policy positions.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 09:45 AM
Nov 2014

It's ALWAYS about her electability, and nothing else.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
20. Oh, I've noticed
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 12:22 AM
Nov 2014

Her policy positions are irrelevant. I personally think this is going to be a Clinton vs. Bush election. Either way we will get what we deserve.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
11. Lol. You're spiralling.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 09:18 AM
Nov 2014

If what we say didn't matter you wouldn't be losing your grip like this. Shit most conservatives don't even dwell on their loathing of progressives like you have been.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
15. Yawn, here comes the thought police again
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 10:01 AM
Nov 2014

I seem to recall that she had the lock on the nomination in 2008 as well and we all know what happened that year.

Nothing we discuss here will have any significant bearing on Clinton's chances of being nominated or elected in 2016 so perhaps you can stop wasting our time telling us not to post OP's that don't, in your mind, fawn all over Clinton.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
18. I suppose if I was suffering from dysentery, and ...
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 11:50 AM
Nov 2014

found myself without toilet paper I might wipe my ass with the Examiner, (but I can't say so with any degree of certainty).

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