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muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:08 AM Nov 2014

Hillary Clinton reality check: she has strong support among liberal Democrats

From June 2014:

Hillary Clinton doesn’t have a problem with liberals. Not hardly.

A new CNN/Opinion Research poll shows that when voters are asked whether they would prefer Clinton, a more liberal alternative or a more conservative one, about twice as many non-Clinton voters say they prefer the more conservative one (20 percent) to the more liberal one (11 percent).

* A Washington Post/ABC News poll this month showed Clinton taking a bigger share of the vote in the 2016 primary among self-described liberals (72 percent) than among moderate and conservative Democrats (60 percent).

* The same poll shows 18 percent of moderate Democrats don't want Clinton to run. Just 6 percent of liberal Democrats agree.

* The WaPo-ABC poll also shows liberal Democrats approve of Clinton's tenure at the State Department by a margin of 96-1, while moderate Democrats approve of it 84-12. Sixty-seven percent of liberals strongly approve of Clinton's performance, nearly 9 in 10 say she is a strong leader, and only slightly fewer say she's honest and trustworthy.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/16/hillary-clinton-doesnt-have-a-problem-with-liberals-not-hardly/

If there has been a noticeable change since June, please do post here to update our information.
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wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
1. Polls have said as much since then, which means either two thing:
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:13 AM
Nov 2014

1. The polls were bought and paid for by Clintonistas determined to suppress the coming purge and glorious 'progressive' revolution.
2. Things have changed in the few weeks since those polls. My friends and drinking buddies are proof.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
2. Good for her.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:18 AM
Nov 2014

Then her ardent supporters can stop pissing and moaning about those of us who don't like her since she doesn't need us anyway.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. MY THOUGHT EXACTLY.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:02 AM
Nov 2014

If she is so beloved by liberals, why bother with the constant castigating of the very few liberals here (evidently) who do not care for her at all?

Is the assignment 100% avowed fealty or something?

This liberal decides for herself - I really am not swayed by polls in the least little bit. I remember when the lockstep by GOPers was laughed at.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
5. Not sure what it's like on other Democratic sites, but most of the DU castigating is against Hillary
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:20 AM
Nov 2014

I see plenty of threads here about how she will alienate Democrats, how she's a Third Way Democrat who doesn't belong in the party because she's too right wing, and so on. I thought the authors of such threads ought to be aware of the reality of the country. I don't see much castigating of people who don't like her (unless they go on to try to persuade people to vote against her in the general election if she wins the primary - that does get DUer's backs up, and that's not surprising).

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
7. Oh, so Warren is a "notable liberal Democrat" when she says that - but when Warren is praised,
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:43 AM
Nov 2014

she is a former Reagan-loving Republican who sat by while Reagan laughed at AIDS. So, following that logic, why would I care if a former Reagan Democrat wants Hillary to run? Is it because she thinks Hillary is like Reagan? What am I to think?????
Maybe I will just make up my own mind, by looking at deeds not words and not having my mind made up by polls.
Maybe that is how Hillary and the DNC roll, conforming to polls, but I do not.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
9. Tell it to the people bashing Hillary & urging Warren to run.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:52 AM
Nov 2014

Your complaints should be directed toward those who wish to preempt the Democratic process. Personally, I think we should have a few announced candidates & a few primaries before we decide on a nominee.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
11. Warren was a long term Republican, a Ronald Reagan loyalist, she voted for anti gay, anti choice
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:34 AM
Nov 2014

policies for years and years and she did elect Reagan a second time when she had seen them laugh about AIDS then take no action of any kind against it for years. She did that. When asked why she was a right wing Republican like that, she says she only cared about 'the markets' and thought that Reaganomics was a great thing.
If she wants my vote, she has to explain her decades of being a vicious Republican. I don't even like sharing a Party with one of those Reagan/Bush homophobes.
I know you don't care about it. Millions of others do. You, like Regan and Warren, make light of AIDS deaths and discount the importance of her political choices at that time. It is extremely telling.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
12. Who was it that used to post weekly Gallup polls about how much Liberal Dems loved Obama?
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:46 AM
Nov 2014

I guess he's truly a lame duck if we've already moved onto posting polls of how much liberal Dems love Hillary.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
13. I'm guessing that Democrats as a whole don't want to purge folks like Andrew Cuomo from the party,
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:52 AM
Nov 2014

either.

The real world is a little bit different from DU.

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
15. Cuomo is pretty horrible. I imagine if most people were aware of his support of Republican
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 02:18 PM
Nov 2014

gerrymandering, his support of the Republican minority taking control of the state senate form the Democratic majority, creating an anti-corruption commission to go after his rivals and then dismissing it when they started investigating his own corruption, using the name "Women's Equality Party" as a cheap political trick to try to undermine the Working Families Party, etc., they'd probably dislike him more.

But I doubt most people know much about him besides the fact that he's the Democratic governor of New York, so I think you're probably correct that most Democrats wouldn't be in favor of getting rid of him. It's a position that most likely comes from ignorance, and more well-informed Democrats should do what they can to counter it.

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