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UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:26 AM Nov 2014

Why Do People Attack The OP???

Just because a person may post an article that may be interesting or controversial that does not mean the OP agrees with everything that the author has written. I would never attack an OP, I would point out what I don't agree with the article instead. Lets be adults and have a normal discussion, instead of attacks and back biting.

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Why Do People Attack The OP??? (Original Post) UglyGreed Nov 2014 OP
Attacking is rarely conducive to a conversation Kalidurga Nov 2014 #1
I totally agree UglyGreed Nov 2014 #4
Don't take it personally... Phentex Nov 2014 #2
I don't mind the UglyGreed Nov 2014 #3
You recerntly posted an opinion from another source with which you agreed pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #13
Yes I did UglyGreed Nov 2014 #15
I was thinking of your OP excerpting from another source pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #17
If you mean the title UglyGreed Nov 2014 #19
Your timing sucked pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #30
I understand that now UglyGreed Nov 2014 #39
Welcome to the internet...it only comes natural for many posters. ileus Nov 2014 #5
If an op posts some horrendous bullshit and does not explicitly distance herself Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #6
Too many people post articles without making it clear that it is a paste TexasProgresive Nov 2014 #7
I did not even know UglyGreed Nov 2014 #9
You have to click it at the beginning and again at the end TexasProgresive Nov 2014 #12
Thanks! RiverLover Nov 2014 #14
Thanks again UglyGreed Nov 2014 #16
No, you don't. randome Nov 2014 #25
Yeah that works too. TexasProgresive Nov 2014 #32
Me, too. randome Nov 2014 #36
Never say never. Gormy Cuss Nov 2014 #8
I understand UglyGreed Nov 2014 #11
Amen to that. Some attacks are so brutal. Some are courteous. There are some posters mfcorey1 Nov 2014 #10
I try not too yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #18
Thank you UglyGreed Nov 2014 #20
It's not anything personal on any side yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #22
You own what you post. aikoaiko Nov 2014 #21
I did not agree UglyGreed Nov 2014 #23
No need to be sorry. Just don't act surprised when people push back aikoaiko Nov 2014 #24
Nice post, hitler! Javaman Nov 2014 #26
LOL ProfessorPlum Nov 2014 #33
You win the internet today! Generic Brad Nov 2014 #35
The OP isn't attacked, more likely it is the position being posted that is attacked still_one Nov 2014 #27
When one can win an argument based on fact and reason, exhilaration is the result. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #28
people here have long memories. mopinko Nov 2014 #29
Because this is the internet, where personal attacks flow like downhill water. chrisa Nov 2014 #31
Your hatred of Obama is noted Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #34
DU started in 2001 and the culture here Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #37
I rarely do. lovemydog Nov 2014 #38

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
1. Attacking is rarely conducive to a conversation
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:29 AM
Nov 2014

I don't think either side really learns from that. But, different strokes I guess.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
4. I totally agree
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:41 AM
Nov 2014

I try not to get sucked into a war of words. Sometimes it happens though, after many attacks. I'm only human.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
2. Don't take it personally...
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:36 AM
Nov 2014

Unless you make specific comments about the subject.

This thread will probably be locked.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
3. I don't mind the
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:39 AM
Nov 2014

attacks and sometimes I bite back but I don't find it to be too helpful. I could understand if it is written by the OP him or herself but articles are a different matter.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
13. You recerntly posted an opinion from another source with which you agreed
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:07 AM
Nov 2014

When you were challenged on it you had a chance to reply, and you did. That's discussion.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
15. Yes I did
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:20 AM
Nov 2014

but I did not attack the OP personally. I wrote of my experiences while trying to keep it civil. I tried very hard to respect the other person's point view. Other posts I decided not to reply because it would do no good and it was better to let sleeping dogs lie. I try to picture myself talking to the person face to face instead of being behind a screen.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
17. I was thinking of your OP excerpting from another source
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:30 AM
Nov 2014

Some replies challenged both the opinions expressed by your source author and the timing of your OP.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
19. If you mean the title
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:51 AM
Nov 2014

I copied and pasted it which I believe are the rules here. As for the timing, first that article came out yesterday so I posted it on the day it came out. Also my days since I'm disabled run one into another and sometimes I forget what is going on in the world. I'm sorry if offended some of you but I don't believe I ruined your day or the other the Vets here since you do get much more support than criticism these days. I know that was not always the case and that was not fair since back then many of you were conscripted. On a final note, if I were to be offended every time someone says all people with back pain are fakers and malingerers I would of offed myself a long time ago. Just sayin"

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
30. Your timing sucked
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:58 AM
Nov 2014

As some pointed out, doing that now--the day before Veterans Day--is not like raising the issue for discussion at other times. Where and when your source author posts is his issue; bringing it here, now, is yours.

While Veterans Day honors current and past military service and is distinguished from Memorial Day, which honors our war dead, it's natural for vets this day (including DU vets) to remember those with whom we served, including those we knew and lost.

I knew more than 60 guys whose names are engraved on the Wall, including an Army roommate who was awarded the Medal of Honor posthumously.

You may have valid grievances of your own about posts that pop up any time that strike you as insensitive and offensive. You should understand why such posts would be especially offensive if they coincided with a special time of honor for those at whom the offense is aimed.

For a sense of decency and sensitivity alone, if not for respect, this is not a time to re-post an article objecting to veterans like those I knew and lost being called heros.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
39. I understand that now
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 12:44 PM
Nov 2014

I should of waited to post that article. It was a knee jerk reaction, or just being a plain old jerk. Sorry.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
6. If an op posts some horrendous bullshit and does not explicitly distance herself
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:50 AM
Nov 2014

from that horrendous bullshit then the assumption is that the op supports the horrendous bullshit posted.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
7. Too many people post articles without making it clear that it is a paste
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:52 AM
Nov 2014

I don't know why so few use the

"excerpt" button

to mark a quote. I have seen replies to an OP that definately think the poster said or wrote the article. If the paste is clearly marked by using "excerpt" the poster can then make a comment that is clearly their own.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
9. I did not even know
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:55 AM
Nov 2014

about the way to use of excerpt button. Thank you for pointing that out. It will come in handy!!!

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
12. You have to click it at the beginning and again at the end
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:05 AM
Nov 2014

div class="excerpt" I left out the brackets so it will post the words div class="excerpt" then to close click again/div

like this

quote


You can do the same with the b,iand u

I'm not sure as to the use of "blockquote but will try it with your OP:

Just because a person may post an article that may be interesting or controversial that does not mean the OP agrees with everything that the author has written. I would never attack an OP, I would point out what I don't agree with the article instead. Lets be adults and have a normal discussion, instead of attacks and back biting.


That works nearly as well as "excerpt"
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
25. No, you don't.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:38 AM
Nov 2014

You can highlight the entire portion and then press either the Excerpt or BlockQuote buttons. That way the start and end tags will be applied to the highlighted portion.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]TECT in the name of the Representative approves of this post.[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
36. Me, too.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:36 AM
Nov 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
8. Never say never.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:53 AM
Nov 2014

If you're around here long enough you too may become fed up with some types of OPs, for example:
1) OP posts, without comment, a link to an article espousing right wing or otherwise controversial points of view. Because the OP didn't comment the readers don't know why the OP thought it was worth posting here and one logical conclusion is that it was posted to stir up crap.
2) OP has a pattern of posting similar "controversial" articles in a hit and run manner -- if an OP thinks it's a worthy topic for discussion, the presumption is that the OP will stick around for said discussion.
3) OP calls out DUers generically.
4) OP and/or the OP links are espousing views that absolutely do not need to be tolerated here, e.g. homophobic or racists stances.

None of the above are OPs in good faith and none of them should be treated with kid gloves.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
11. I understand
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:01 AM
Nov 2014

I try to resist but sometimes it is like an automatic reaction. Even though I do not do this if it is an article written by someone else other than the OP.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
10. Amen to that. Some attacks are so brutal. Some are courteous. There are some posters
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:59 AM
Nov 2014

who troll to see how they can attack the poster. They never respond on the issue but they nitpick.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
18. I try not too
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:48 AM
Nov 2014

I admit yesterday I did become disgusted about an article being extremely disrespectful to the veterans to the point of calling the article out. I would say that sometimes the OP seeks out nasty articles to just be mean. However, overall you are correct.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
20. Thank you
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:59 AM
Nov 2014

for your reply. I can understand why you were disgusted, I did not mean to disrespect you. I'm just worry about this war mentality and IMO many of you are being used to recruit others. I don't know if my opinion is wrong or right but I try to be honest.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
22. It's not anything personal on any side
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:25 AM
Nov 2014

I just take a small segment of the war machine and try to protect them. I try to look out for the little guy in all areas. The war machine got so big due to businesses and politicians. The E-2 has little say in anything. Many are just trying to provide for their family or get a career. Maybe the raw-raw gets out of hand, but certainly not on Memorial and Veterans Day. Had that article came out in January, I may have even agree with certain aspects of it. Keep posting because we are all in this together!!! Have a great day!

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
23. I did not agree
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:26 AM
Nov 2014

with everything that article but I do stand by that post since it had many things I do agree with. Sorry if some did not agree.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
24. No need to be sorry. Just don't act surprised when people push back
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:32 AM
Nov 2014

When you post controversial things. That's what we do here.

No matter how academic the analysis there is always a contingent who respond from a personal point of view

still_one

(92,190 posts)
27. The OP isn't attacked, more likely it is the position being posted that is attacked
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:42 AM
Nov 2014

There are very few, though some exits here that will actually personally attack the OP

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
28. When one can win an argument based on fact and reason, exhilaration is the result.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:47 AM
Nov 2014

Then all parties feel uplifted and enlightened.

When one attacks verbally in a debate, it only drags everyone involved down.

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
29. people here have long memories.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 09:49 AM
Nov 2014

as i have recently been told.
some people make is a habit to troll. those people are rightly called out.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
31. Because this is the internet, where personal attacks flow like downhill water.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 10:01 AM
Nov 2014

DU is actually one of the most tame places on the internet. Try having a discussion elsewhere without being trolled, being name-called, or even having your life threatened. It's not easy.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
37. DU started in 2001 and the culture here
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 11:35 AM
Nov 2014

developed on it's own. Different people have different discussion styles. Some more aggressive, some less. Personally, the last thing I want to see on a political discussion group is milquetoast 24/7 and, goddess forbid, an echo chamber. My suggestion to you is to either grow a thicker skin or explore the Groups, of which there are several here on DU and which are far less contentious. Starting an OP about how "other" people act, without checking your own actions is not a good way to make your point, btw.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
38. I rarely do.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 12:03 PM
Nov 2014

I don't know why people do it so often. I think a lot of people are jumpy, defensive & paranoid. Not just here at DU. All around.

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