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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 12:20 PM Nov 2014

Hillary Clinton: would like to see the United States "move toward normalizing relations" with Cuba

A roadmap of the path to normalization:

http://americasquarterly.org/charticles/the-new-normalization/

See? Just like Nixon. The NYT just ran yet another editorial pushing normalization with Cuba yesterday. Something seems to be cooking on that front.

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Hillary Clinton said in a recent interview that she would like to see the United States “move toward normalizing relations” with Cuba. This remarkable statement–from quite possibly the next president–came at the end of a critique of the current U.S. policy that insists on political and other reforms in Cuba as a precondition for modifying the current sanctions the U.S. imposes on that country.

In Clinton’s view, the U.S. embargo on Cuba has “propped up the Castros because they can blame everything on it.” In adopting this new position, she has diverged importantly from her husband’s policy of “carefully calibrated” responses to “positive developments [by the government] in Cuba.” Instead, she now favors a unilateralist policy that would unconditionally normalize relations, thereby depriving the Cuban government of long-standing grievances with the U.S. that–in her view–it exploits to maintain the support of the Cuban people.

However, when she spoke of normalizing relations with Cuba, Clinton focused exclusively on the embargo. In doing so, she seemed to conflate an absence of punitive measures levied on a country with normal relations. But normalization is more than that.

A metaphor that pictures nationstates as neighbors living in the same community may be useful in illustrating what normalized relations look like. To begin with, such relations involve considerably more than refraining from active hostilities. They also include extending to one another the rights, privileges and courtesies that flow from the principle that all residents share equally in the benefits of belonging to a neighborhood.

What would that look like in the case of the U.S. and Cuba? more at link..

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Hillary Clinton: would like to see the United States "move toward normalizing relations" with Cuba (Original Post) flamingdem Nov 2014 OP
Gahd. UKRAINE?? ISIS? She wants to talk Cuban embargo??? HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #1
Ending the embargo needs to be spoken about FrodosPet Nov 2014 #5
it does but I would have loved to see it when she was sec of state roguevalley Nov 2014 #9
Sounds good to me. dilby Nov 2014 #2
I thought Obama was going to do that. . . B Calm Nov 2014 #3
Good. The best strategy is to give Cubans a taste of capitalism (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #4
Europeans and Canadians already visit it Johonny Nov 2014 #6
Plus, Menendez is a Cuban American flamingdem Nov 2014 #7
If only she had taken such a rational approach to Iraq and its WMDs in the KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #8

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
1. Gahd. UKRAINE?? ISIS? She wants to talk Cuban embargo???
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 12:40 PM
Nov 2014

Jeeeeez. Let's change the subject from hard things.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
9. it does but I would have loved to see it when she was sec of state
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 06:29 PM
Nov 2014

and not when she needs cuban votes to beat jeb bush at home.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
6. Europeans and Canadians already visit it
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:32 PM
Nov 2014

Why we still don't... because everyone is afraid of the Florida vote.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
8. If only she had taken such a rational approach to Iraq and its WMDs in the
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:37 PM
Nov 2014

autumn of 2002 and spring of 2003.

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