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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:23 PM Nov 2014

300,000 dead in one battle -- WWI. We cannot imagine the horror. Let's remember.

WWI was supposed to be the war to end all wars. American deaths in WWI, an ocean away were as follows:

"To give you an idea of the scope of the horror, the ten month long battle of Verdun (February - December 1916), which resulted in a French victory claimed 300,000 dead on both sides, and 900,000 total casualties. This is nearly 90,000 dead and wounded per month. The Battle of the Somme between July and November 1916 resulted in close to a million casualties. On the first day of the battle, almost 20,000 British soldiers were killed. German losses were over 10,000. The area fought over was approximately the size of Manhattan Island. By contrast, in the entire Second World War (1941045) in the Pacific and Europe, the United States lost approximately 100,000 men killed in action. In ten years of tthe Vietnam conflict, 55,000 Americans lost their lives. This is not to belittle their sacrifice, but simply to illustrate the carnage experienced by the combatants of WWI."

World War 2 Heroes Jean Moulin & The French Resistance Forces in WWII by Ryan Jenkinshttp://www.amazon.com/World-War-Heroes-Resistance-resistance-ebook/dp/B00LNPD3BE

I think this book may have been published in 2014. Sorry. It's on Kindle. I can't tell you the page number. The book is rather short.

From Wikipedia.

The total number of military and civilian casualties in World War I was over 37 million. There were over 16 million deaths and 20 million wounded ranking it among the deadliest conflicts in human history.

The total number of deaths includes about 10 million military personnel and about 7 million civilians. The Entente Powers (also known as the Allies) lost about 6 million military personnel while the Central Powers lost about 4 million. At least 2 million died from diseases and 6 million went missing, presumed dead. This article lists the casualties of the belligerent powers based on official published sources. About two-thirds of military deaths in World War I were in battle, unlike the conflicts that took place in the 19th century when the majority of deaths were due to disease. Nevertheless, disease, including the Spanish flu and deaths while held as prisoners of war, still caused about one third of total military deaths for all belligerents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties

World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history. Over 60 million people were killed, which was over 2.5% of the world population. The tables below give a detailed country-by-country count of human losses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

Never again. When our friends and family speak of war or violence as a solution we must remind them of the great sacrifices that war entails. Never again.

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300,000 dead in one battle -- WWI. We cannot imagine the horror. Let's remember. (Original Post) JDPriestly Nov 2014 OP
let's never forget. samsingh Nov 2014 #1
On ne passe pas alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #2
That's what happens when soldiers walk in a line abreast into machine gun fire. Lurks Often Nov 2014 #3
I have a 37-85 shell on my desk from "Douaumont" from Sept. 1916... Historic NY Nov 2014 #4
We're doomed to repeat those lessons I'm afriad. ffr Nov 2014 #5
In Europe as well right-wing nationalism is coming back. The liberal pan-European project of the pampango Nov 2014 #8
Great post you made here. Totally agree! NCarolinawoman Nov 2014 #12
K&R for remembrance ReRe Nov 2014 #6
Old war poem from up North Old Nick Nov 2014 #7
Thank you. So beautiful. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #9
History teaches man..... Old Nick Nov 2014 #10
Too many people don't know history. NCarolinawoman Nov 2014 #14
War has been the most successful of all our cultural traditions. -- Robert Ardrey alterfurz Nov 2014 #11
Yikes! Horrible! n/t NCarolinawoman Nov 2014 #13
...and how many people know that quote from Eisenhower?: NCarolinawoman Nov 2014 #15
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
2. On ne passe pas
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 02:00 PM
Nov 2014

They shall not pass.

Verdun, 1916.

Whenever I hear about "Cheese eating surrender monkeys" I think of the absolute disrespect shown to the men of Verdun. People don't know shit.



 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
3. That's what happens when soldiers walk in a line abreast into machine gun fire.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 02:08 PM
Nov 2014

The technology, mostly the machine gun, changed the battlefield before the tactics could adapt.

D-Day is another example, 4400 Allied dead and another 6000 wounded in a day, at least 3000 French civilians killed and German casualties were 1000 dead and another 3000-8000 wounded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normandy_landings

War has always been horrible

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
4. I have a 37-85 shell on my desk from "Douaumont" from Sept. 1916...
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 02:25 PM
Nov 2014

the village part of the ring of forts surrounding Verdun. They have an Ossuary there containing the remains of more than 100 thousand unknown French & German troops.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
5. We're doomed to repeat those lessons I'm afriad.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 02:35 PM
Nov 2014

I put casualties into context whenever I compare conflicts. 51% of the nation is mesmerized by the RW media's portrayal of Benghazi. Put into context with the WTC 9/11 or go back further and it takes less than a blip of a mind's two seconds to see how distracted and brainwashed people can be.

To all the veterans, I salute you for your service. And I'll continue doing so after your back home and whether or not you're injured. We owe you!

pampango

(24,692 posts)
8. In Europe as well right-wing nationalism is coming back. The liberal pan-European project of the
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 03:12 PM
Nov 2014

post-war era is weakening and may be coming to an end. We like to think that extreme right-wing nationalism cannot return to power in Europe countries but memories of what that brought the continent 70 years ago are fading from living memory. Frustrations with the mistakes and limitations of the liberal project are feeding the resurgence of nationalism and the growth of right wing parties.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
6. K&R for remembrance
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 03:00 PM
Nov 2014

I honestly don't know how humans can call themselves civilized and continue to wage wars. I don't care what justification anyone comes up for it, I will always vehemently disagree. When this country entered into the invasion of Iraq in 2003, it tore my extended family apart. It was my Mother and myself arguing against my siblings and even Mom's pastor!

Rather than being the War to end all Wars, it was the War that gave birth to all the rest of the wars of the 20th century.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
9. Thank you. So beautiful.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 04:52 PM
Nov 2014

My sixth grade teacher read us that poem and told us about WWI. I will never forget it. That was around 60 years ago, but I will never forget it.

The men who died in WWI were around the age of my grandparents. The men and women who died in WWII were a bit younger than my parents. And then of course my generation was sent to Viet Nam.

When will we learn?

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
14. Too many people don't know history.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 02:29 AM
Nov 2014

Politicians certainly don't, or if they ever studied it, they do not care enough. Politicians and so many of their non-thinking supporters world wide, are lost in the glory of it all.

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
15. ...and how many people know that quote from Eisenhower?:
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 02:43 AM
Nov 2014

"I hate war as only a soldier can, only as one who has seen it's brutality, it's futility, it's STUPIDITY."

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