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alp227

(32,025 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 02:03 PM Nov 2014

Duncanville teacher likely to lose job over tweets

DUNCANVILLE — Vinita Hegwood taught her students a lesson, but it probably wasn't the one she expected.

The second year Duncanville High School English teacher was suspended without pay Monday morning after school officials learned that she had posted racially charged tweets on Friday night.

The suspension followed a meeting with the superintendent and other school officials, who said Hegwood confirmed authorship of the tweets.

...

It was a tweet that Hegwood posted Friday night that ultimately led to her suspension and will likely cost her job. It said:

"Who the (expletive) made you (expletive) crackers think I give a squat (expletive) about your opinions. #Ferguson Kill yourselves."

full: http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/education/2014/11/10/duncanville-teacher-likely-to-lose-job-over-tweets/18832369/

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Duncanville teacher likely to lose job over tweets (Original Post) alp227 Nov 2014 OP
Wow! Completely speechless! yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #1
Unfortunately education does not kiva Nov 2014 #2
Should anybody who posted this be fired? immoderate Nov 2014 #3
I teach. kiva Nov 2014 #4
I teach too. And I acknowledge this was stupid... immoderate Nov 2014 #5
Yes AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #6
I've seen multiple stories of people held to these standards. kiva Nov 2014 #7
Best. Advice. Ever. n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #9
I agree with you, and generally recommend the same behaviors. immoderate Nov 2014 #11
I think any public employee should lose their job for something like this SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #8
Should it apply to the boss/owner? immoderate Nov 2014 #12
Personally I like it when they tweet or post stupid stuff, kiva Nov 2014 #15
Out of curiosity... Under which circumstances is it acceptable for a teacher throw out racist slurs. Oktober Nov 2014 #17
Acceptable? Can't think of any. immoderate Nov 2014 #19
That's my question... Oktober Nov 2014 #20
After following up ... immoderate Nov 2014 #23
Not trying to push it... Oktober Nov 2014 #24
Some context. What preceded this response. immoderate Nov 2014 #26
That's my point... Oktober Nov 2014 #27
we don't mercuryblues Nov 2014 #22
Reading the article SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #25
one teacher mercuryblues Nov 2014 #28
One admitted to it SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #29
First rule of social media: don't say anything that you'll regret later. Initech Nov 2014 #10
It kinda makes Twitter the bottle-of-tequila-at-Spring-Break of the internet. nt Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #14
It helps not to be a racist in the first place... Oktober Nov 2014 #18
Not going to argue with that one! Initech Nov 2014 #21
Good... Racist moron deserves it... Oktober Nov 2014 #13
How many souls shall Ferguson consume before the fires of rage burn themselves out? From KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #16

kiva

(4,373 posts)
4. I teach.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 02:28 PM
Nov 2014

And yes, we are expected to to avoid doing stupid things like post racist rants. If this were a white teacher saying she didn't care what n*****s had to say about Ferguson, would you think that was OK and that she should keep her job? I don't.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
5. I teach too. And I acknowledge this was stupid...
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 02:55 PM
Nov 2014

I always told my students not to put anything into an email that you wouldn't want broadcast to the world.

Having said that, I know nothing of the context of these remarks. It may have been a direct response to a provocation. And while that doesn't excuse it, I would also consider performance in the classroom as a factor. This is someone's livelihood, and profession, and apparently a newbie. I am uneasy about application of 'zero tolerance' to what resembles a thought crime.

Do you think any other profession should be held to these standards?

--imm

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
6. Yes
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 03:17 PM
Nov 2014

Damn near every profession.

The reasons behind her rant are irrelevant, her behavior is reprehensible for someone who is teaching children.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
7. I've seen multiple stories of people held to these standards.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 03:24 PM
Nov 2014

People have been fired by private companies for posting and tweeting all sorts of incredibly stupid things:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/15/fired-over-twitter-tweets_n_645884.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-fired-2011-5?op=1

http://abcnews.go.com/International/justine-sacco-fired-tweet-aids-africa-issues-apology/story?id=21301833

Here's the thing - if you cannot control your temper or know you have a habit of saying/writing offensive things, then stay off of social media that is not anonymous when you are pissed. Come to DU to rant, the worst that will happen is that you'll have a post deleted. Write out your post, save it, then look at it again a day or two later. Before you post, ask yourself exactly how you plan to support yourself, your kids, your SO, your pets, if you lose your job because you just had to give your opinion about X.



 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
11. I agree with you, and generally recommend the same behaviors.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 04:44 PM
Nov 2014

Broadcasting it was condemnably stupid.

--imm

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
8. I think any public employee should lose their job for something like this
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 03:26 PM
Nov 2014

Other professions, I would leave it to the boss/owner to decide whether or not this would be a "fireable" offense.

It would be if the ranter worked for me.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
15. Personally I like it when they tweet or post stupid stuff,
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 04:53 PM
Nov 2014

especially when they try to say that they didn't really mean it....

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
17. Out of curiosity... Under which circumstances is it acceptable for a teacher throw out racist slurs.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:10 PM
Nov 2014

... and encourage them to kill themselves?

I can't think of any and I'm concerned if you think you can...

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
19. Acceptable? Can't think of any.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:26 PM
Nov 2014

Nor do I condone. But, as I said, I'm not a "zero-tolerance" type, and I tend toward reserving judgement.

Encouraging people to do something is not robbing them of free will; there are degrees of influence.

--imm

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
20. That's my question...
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:30 PM
Nov 2014

This isn't zero tolerance mumbo jumbo...

How can this person continue teaching? What white parent would even consider letting this racist teach their children? Which administrator could ethically allow it? (Obviously some... but they are as lacking in moral fiber as she is)

This isn't an oopsy doodle, said a swear in front of the kids.... This is a blatant admission of racism and should be, but is not, an absolute disqualification to ever exert any authority or influence over children again.

It's as bad as if a teacher came out as a NAMBLA member. She can't teach... period...

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
23. After following up ...
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:53 PM
Nov 2014

I'll concede that her position looks indefensible. Bad intentions.

--imm

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
24. Not trying to push it...
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:56 PM
Nov 2014

... but what more follow up was needed other than confirmation that she was the one who sent it?

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
27. That's my point...
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 06:18 PM
Nov 2014

There are no circumstances that would warrant this response...

None.. Zero...

If she said it... then she is out...

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
22. we don't
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:50 PM
Nov 2014

have to wonder what would happen to a white teacher.

The AA teacher used her own phone to post to her own account. This teacher said it to students, on school grounds during school hours.

A North Carolina math teacher has been allowed to keep her job despite allegedly saying she wanted to 'kill all black people.'

Cynthia Ramsey, head of the math department at Camden County High School in North Carolina, allegedly said to a student that if she only had ten days left to live, her bucket list would include 'killing all black people'.

The conversation is alleged to have taken place in her classroom this week, and shortly afterwards she was suspended but then reinstated.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2817433/If-10-days-live-kill-black-people-Racist-teacher-tells-students-s-bucket-list-manages-job.html#ixzz3ItSHFzrV


SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
25. Reading the article
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 06:02 PM
Nov 2014

It seems as though there is still a school board investigation. If it's proven she said those things, she should be fired immediately.

Very different from someone that posted it to social media and admitted she said it. Just a wrong, if it happened, but one is completely provable, and the other *may* not be.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
28. one teacher
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 06:35 PM
Nov 2014

was suspended without pay. She will probably be fired. The remarks were on her own time.

The other was suspended WITH pay, then reinstated until the investigation is complete. It is questionable if she will be fired for her remarks in the classroom.

She could very well be fired. One gets the benefit of the doubt, while the other is fired asap.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
29. One admitted to it
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 06:39 PM
Nov 2014

One may or may not have, the article doesn't say.
One is in Texas, one is in North Carolina, each of which has their own rules, I'm assuming, on what can/should be done during these investigations.

These are two very different situations in two completely different places. I'm not surprised they are being handled differently.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
16. How many souls shall Ferguson consume before the fires of rage burn themselves out? From
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 04:55 PM
Nov 2014

John Brown's final prophecy (December 1859):

I John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with Blood. I had as I now think vainly flattered myself that withought very much bloodshed it might be done.

Quoted in Stephen B. Oates' To Purge This Land With Blood.
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