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Two days each year, DU is not worth reading. (Original Post) lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 OP
We are all prisoners one way or another. I was a prisoner B Calm Nov 2014 #1
Claiming that what you experienced was "slavery" is somewhat offensive Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #8
Correct... Oktober Nov 2014 #9
Involuntary servitude. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #11
What happens on Father's day? n/t dilby Nov 2014 #2
MRA kooks avoid DU alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #5
God, I wish they'd actually avoid DU instead of whinging on about their manfeefees. LeftyMom Nov 2014 #15
Today, the bloom is definitely off the poppy HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #3
I think most of us appreciate and are thankful for the sacrifices of those who served. dawg Nov 2014 #4
Meh, it seems as if someone can find some problem with just about everyday& everything GusBob Nov 2014 #6
I think that describes a large percentage of folks... Oktober Nov 2014 #12
Once upon a time Paolo123 Nov 2014 #20
I think you'll find that most combat vets are anti war, including liberals. B Calm Nov 2014 #23
its about respect GusBob Nov 2014 #24
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye who cheer when soldier lads march by... LanternWaste Nov 2014 #7
Thanks for posting this. nt adirondacker Nov 2014 #17
Thanks. Paladin Nov 2014 #18
Columbus Day gets very tedious here. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #10
They're almost as bad as the half-wits racing to rationalize it. LanternWaste Nov 2014 #16
But not as bad as those who bring nothing to the table but snark & insults. Inkfreak Nov 2014 #26
It's a silly overreaction to earlier Columbus hagiography. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #19
363 days to go. Type faster, ladies! LeftyMom Nov 2014 #13
I don't share your view about today Old Nick Nov 2014 #14
LOL, ok, that explains it. nt Logical Nov 2014 #21
Really, any holiday is not worth reading about here ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2014 #22
Christmas and Easter are exclusionary, and Christmas has annoying music. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #25
Don't forget Flag Day. (nt) Inkfreak Nov 2014 #27
You forgot Thanksgiving is a turkey holocaust. n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2014 #31
Aw. Iggo Nov 2014 #28
Flag Day is worse Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #29
There's Columbus day as well. el_bryanto Nov 2014 #30
 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
1. We are all prisoners one way or another. I was a prisoner
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 04:26 PM
Nov 2014

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for the US government for four years. Then I got out of the service and became a prisoner for 41 more years.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
8. Claiming that what you experienced was "slavery" is somewhat offensive
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:13 PM
Nov 2014

in that by doing so you are downplaying the horror of true slavery.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
11. Involuntary servitude.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:18 PM
Nov 2014

Comparing work, military service and slavery illustrates the differences between military service and work.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
5. MRA kooks avoid DU
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 04:49 PM
Nov 2014


Because feminazis, or something.

There are some people not worth paying attention to.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
15. God, I wish they'd actually avoid DU instead of whinging on about their manfeefees.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:23 PM
Nov 2014

Somebody on the internet has complicated feelings about their father! MISANDRY!

dawg

(10,624 posts)
4. I think most of us appreciate and are thankful for the sacrifices of those who served.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 04:45 PM
Nov 2014

Loud voices posting nonsense, notwithstanding.

If no one were willing to serve, our freedoms would not last long. Most of us understand that.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
6. Meh, it seems as if someone can find some problem with just about everyday& everything
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 04:56 PM
Nov 2014

every holiday or special day seems to have its detractors.

Some people just always eat their cereal soggy with piss

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
12. I think that describes a large percentage of folks...
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:20 PM
Nov 2014

They don't care what their position is... They just like to be contrary and if they can be crass about it then all the better.

Makes em feel superior to the sheep.

 

Paolo123

(297 posts)
20. Once upon a time
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 06:30 PM
Nov 2014

Progressive were against the glorification of the military and soldiers. Obviously that is not the case anymore. DU worships the military and the troops just as much a Free Republic does.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
23. I think you'll find that most combat vets are anti war, including liberals.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:11 PM
Nov 2014

I don't think were glorifying them, just recognizing their sacrifice.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
24. its about respect
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:22 PM
Nov 2014

So many people I know have served or are serving in the military. And indeed many DUers as evidenced by Mr Scorpions Fall In thread.

Respect is a lost tradition in modern society

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
7. You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye who cheer when soldier lads march by...
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:07 PM
Nov 2014

SUICIDE IN THE TRENCHES
By Siegfried Sassoon

I knew a simple soldier boy
Who grinned at life in empty joy,
Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
And whistled early with the lark.

In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
He put a bullet through his brain.
No one spoke of him again.

You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
Sneak home and pray you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.



Make of it what you will.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
10. Columbus Day gets very tedious here.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:15 PM
Nov 2014

Everyone trying to outdo each other in denouncing that disgusting imperialist genocidal maniac.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. They're almost as bad as the half-wits racing to rationalize it.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:29 PM
Nov 2014

"Everyone trying to outdo each other in denouncing that disgusting imperialist genocidal maniac."

They're almost as bad as the half-wits racing to rationalize it.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
26. But not as bad as those who bring nothing to the table but snark & insults.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 08:55 AM
Nov 2014

But not as bad as those who bring nothing to the table but snark & insults. But not everyone is up for the challenge of grown-up discussions.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
19. It's a silly overreaction to earlier Columbus hagiography.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 06:14 PM
Nov 2014

The man was a figure of world historical importance. He should be recognized--if not lauded--for that. His voyages led the way to a globalized planet, for better and worse.

I heartily recommend the book "1493: Uncovering the New World Columbus Created" by Charles Mann for anyone whose interests extend beyond sloganeering.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
22. Really, any holiday is not worth reading about here
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:00 PM
Nov 2014

There is pretty much someone who has a bitch about every one.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
25. Christmas and Easter are exclusionary, and Christmas has annoying music.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 07:32 PM
Nov 2014

Fourth of July is militaristic.

Memorial Day and Labor Day have lost their true meaning and have come to be associated with barbecues and sales.

Columbus Day? Celebrate that murdering genocidal imperialist, are you kidding?

Halloween? Offensive to Wiccans, plus kids wear costumes that perpetuate sexual stereotypes (girls being princesses, for example) and people wear offensive costumes that glorify violence and murder.

Thanksgiving is offensive in that it portrays a sanitized and unrealistic version of the relationship between the European settlers and the Native Americans.

Washington's Birthday celebrates a racist slaveholder who owned hundreds of slaves and chose not to free any of them.

What does that leave? Does anyone have issues with New Year's Day? And I guess Martin Luther King Day is fine?

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