Remington to lay off 126 more people in NY

[Travis_0004]

Looks like Remington is going through with the second round of layoffs in 3 months. In about 1 year remington will open their new factory in Alabama, so the factory in NY might be completly shut down soon. It sucks for the workers, but I dont blame remington after the passage of the safe act.


http://www.cnycentral.com/m/news/story?id=1121549

[shenmue]

1. Sorry for the workers

[BeyondGeography]

2. A small price to pay over the long haul

If Remington wants to pick up its marbles and go to Alabama, let them. We get better gun safety and fewer deaths.

Cheers.

[Lurks Often]

5. Tell that to the employees who will end up on unemployment and even welfare,

I'm sure your comments will help them feed their families and pay their bills

You are naive if you think the laws NY passed will result in fewer gun deaths, crime has always been a function of economic and social pressures, not the availability of an inanimate object.

[BeyondGeography]

14. Yeah, I'm naive

I'll take stronger gun control and the fourth lowest gun death rate over your intuitive assurances.

http://nyagv.org/new-yorks-gun-death-rate-declines-strong-gun-laws-work/

[Lurks Often]

22. Gun violence has declined across the country

and your "source" is hardly unbiased.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-20/table_20_murder_by_state_types_of_weapons_2013.xls

NY was THIRD in the total number of murders in the United States in 2013, California with it's strict gun control was first.

States & territories with lowest numbers for murders*:
Hawaii 9
Vermont 9
Guam 9
North Dakota 11
South Dakota 12
Virgin Islands 14
Montana 15
Wyoming 15
New Hampshire 21
Maine 24

Those in bold are states considered to have "loose" or less restrictive gun laws

*While Alabama is listed with only two murders, the FBI report indicates that Alabama does not report homicides to the FBI

[LondonReign2]

21. The Republicans constantly trot out the argument

that they are against every single regulation because they hurt businesses, and therefore jobs.

If only we could do away with all those pesky food safety, work safety, etc etc. laws it would be Nirvana!

[former9thward]

7. How is moving a factory from NY to AL

getting " better gun safety and fewer deaths"?

[BeyondGeography]

11. The OP blames the SAFE Act n/t

[CK_John]

3. It has nothing to do with "safe" laws. It's about right to work labor with no benefits.

[adirondacker]

6. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thanks for stating that.

[Brickbat]

13. This right here.

[Lurks Often]

4. Remington leaving Ilion for good would wreck the local economy

and expanding in NY makes no sense for a firearms company. Why stay in a state where the Governor hates your product and the people who purchase it and evens prevents employees from buying the very product they make every day. There are about 1000 employees left, probably a good 80% of them are union employees.



Updated link: http://www.cnycentral.com/news/story.aspx?list=196436&id=1121549#.VGOTWz8agUg

and

http://albany.twcnews.com/content/news/784560/layoffs-top-100-plus-at--iconic--remington-arms--economic-concerns-swirl/

[B Calm]

8. Alabama promising them cheap labor and no taxes?

Wow a low wage job and the workers have to pay the company's taxes.

[Savannahmann]

9. No. Alabama promised them

Favorable gun laws.

[B Calm]

10. Yea, okay

[LannyDeVaney]

12. Trust me ...

Alabama promised them WAY more than favorable gun laws. Our state education system is spiraling down the toilet and our governor sold the farm to get Remington here. He won't expand Medicaid because he said it would cost the state too much but he bends over and takes it from a gun company.

Again, it's Alabama. I expected no different.

[etherealtruth]

15. Alabama's incentive package for Remington gun plant: $38M cash, tax breaks

Alabama's incentive package for Remington gun plant: $38M cash, tax breaks, extensive workforce recruitment and training

Here's a quick look at what incentives the state, the cities of Huntsville and Athens, plus Madison, Limestone and Morgan counties have agreed to kick in to land the more than 2,000 jobs associated with Remington's first gun plant in the Southeastern U.S.

The total investment by state and local governments is $68.9 million:

http://www.al.com/business/index.ssf/2014/02/alabamas_incentive_offer_to_re.html

[B Calm]

17. The rest of the story!

[etherealtruth]

16. YES!!!!!

Here's a quick look at what incentives the state, the cities of Huntsville and Athens, plus Madison, Limestone and Morgan counties have agreed to kick in to land the more than 2,000 jobs associated with Remington's first gun plant in the Southeastern U.S.

The total investment by state and local governments is $68.9 million
http://www.al.com/business/index.ssf/2014/02/alabamas_incentive_offer_to_re.html

http://www.al.com/business/index.ssf/2014/06/remington_huntsville_jobs_guns.html

[ileus]

18. I blame that funky failure R51

Hope they can get it back on track and proven reliable. There's always room enough for one more single stack 9mm...

[Travis_0004]

19. Hopefully that demand will be addressed by glock

[ileus]

20. For now Smith, Sig, Kimber, and Springer have them covered.

Plenty of great single stack 9's to choose from.


Now if Glock can manage a 42 sized 9mm, I may finally have a reason to buy another one.