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MSNBC Undergoes Major Reorganization, so who gets thrown under the bus???. (Original Post) CK_John Nov 2014 OP
Hopefully Chris Matthews, Andrea Mitchell and Joe Scarborough. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #1
Joe and Mika are beating CNN in the early morning time slot, amandabeech Nov 2014 #9
So am I, and I don't have a show. Throd Nov 2014 #20
LOL!!! n/t amandabeech Nov 2014 #25
BWHAHA! DUzy! Atman Nov 2014 #33
Absolute DUZY! leftofcool Nov 2014 #41
! I don't post these much... adirondacker Nov 2014 #42
Hardball is MSNBC's highest rated show. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #14
That's... unfortunate. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #21
It's surprising that they cut it back to only the 7 pm slot. amandabeech Nov 2014 #24
his ratings ticked up then. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #27
That makes sense. amandabeech Nov 2014 #32
Maddow is entertaining and smart. Hayes is (sorry, fans) boring. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #38
Agreed, but Farrow is even more boring than Hayes! nt amandabeech Nov 2014 #45
I can't stand Tweety, never could. Anyone who was fooled so completely that he got tingles down his sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #60
"Manic Maddow"?? Excuse me? The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2014 #2
YES, THANKS, Ocelot. elleng Nov 2014 #4
The OP needs to realize that for a joke to be funny, it has to bullwinkle428 Nov 2014 #22
Agree totally! Thanks for sounding off before I did. nt babylonsister Nov 2014 #51
She's by far the best one at MSNBC, or anywhere, for that matter. lob1 Nov 2014 #55
'Manic?' elleng Nov 2014 #3
You wish. JaneyVee Nov 2014 #5
Probably will be Ronan Farrow SummerSnow Nov 2014 #6
Try as I might, I cannot watch his show. amandabeech Nov 2014 #7
It's still on? Boom Sound 416 Nov 2014 #11
Hell....I'm waiting for Keith to return.nt Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #8
She runs the joint Boom Sound 416 Nov 2014 #10
John Fugelsang dropped an aside about a week ago that Cleita Nov 2014 #12
It would be fantastic if he got a show! nt City Lights Nov 2014 #15
Nope....He has his own show on Current TV soon.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #28
There is no Current TV unless we've gone back in time. Cleita Nov 2014 #29
Not Current....shoot...I meant Free Speech VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #31
So he got a deal at FSTV? Good. He's better off there and they need Cleita Nov 2014 #37
Yes he did.....He announced on Stephanie Miller on Friday's with Fugelsang... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #40
I googled and nothing came up rurallib Nov 2014 #50
From your mouth to gawd's ears. leftofcool Nov 2014 #43
He would be awesome! A Stewart , or Colbert, or Oliver babylonsister Nov 2014 #54
Chris Hayes. Ed Schultz. Azathoth Nov 2014 #13
Yes, Chris Hayes. People actually seem to be watching Matthews, leaving, then returning for Maddow wyldwolf Nov 2014 #17
Where are you getting your ratings numbers? gvstn Nov 2014 #23
Mediabistro is a good source wyldwolf Nov 2014 #36
I really appreciate the information. gvstn Nov 2014 #62
I you REALLY want to know which show they find the most valuable wyldwolf Nov 2014 #65
I'd rather watch Chris Hayes Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #18
I like Chris Hayes, but . . . markpkessinger Nov 2014 #19
He does get chirpy when he's excited. I guess he Cleita Nov 2014 #26
LOL! "Chirpy" -- what a perfect description! n/t markpkessinger Nov 2014 #30
Chirpy & Tweety! Sedona Nov 2014 #63
Ed and Rachel are MFM008 Nov 2014 #39
Hayes was better suited to the format he had with UP... JHB Nov 2014 #44
I agree Azathoth Nov 2014 #46
Maddow??? Old Nick Nov 2014 #16
I just hope MSNBC has the intelligence to figure out how massive the progressive market is. Half-Century Man Nov 2014 #34
Manic Maddow? Control-Z Nov 2014 #35
Get rid of all the lockup segments Rene Nov 2014 #47
It will not be the Prison Industrial Complex Shows. They will be on 24x7x365. madinmaryland Nov 2014 #48
LOL JonLP24 Nov 2014 #53
Uhmm... Tebow will be on the SEC/CBSTV network on the weekends!! madinmaryland Nov 2014 #57
Man BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #49
If the got rid of Chris Matthews I would not cry. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #52
NO.. You may not always like what he says but he is the Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2014 #58
Wht is there not one Native American on that whole network?!!! TshaiRedhair Nov 2014 #56
Manic? Jamastiene Nov 2014 #59
Dump Dead Intern Joe, Mrs. Greenspan, and give Matthews nights when he is normal. Dawson Leery Nov 2014 #61
"Manic Maddow" Holy fuck, sexist much??? Odin2005 Nov 2014 #64
If they were getting rid of Maddow, she wouldn't be running justiceischeap Nov 2014 #66
If ratings mattered, Keith Olberman would still be there! B Calm Nov 2014 #67
+infinity newfie11 Nov 2014 #69
Haven't watched it in 2years. Couldn't be happier. Inkfreak Nov 2014 #68
 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
9. Joe and Mika are beating CNN in the early morning time slot,
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:22 PM
Nov 2014

so I'm afraid that they'll still be there.

The other two may "retire," though.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
24. It's surprising that they cut it back to only the 7 pm slot.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:43 PM
Nov 2014

He used to be on at 5 as well.

Personally, I like Tweety. He says some things that infuriate many DUers, including me, but he didn't get to be Tip O'Neil's chief of staff because of his looks. He can be pretty savvy, particularly when he steps back and analyzes the relative positions of both parties. And I love it when he talks about Tip.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
27. his ratings ticked up then.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:45 PM
Nov 2014

I don't NOT like Tweety. He seems to get more quests and has more engaging guests.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
32. That makes sense.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:52 PM
Nov 2014

He's been around DC forever, and seems to know everyone in DC. And his show is based in DC.

Hayes and Maddow are much more wonkish, and Maddow, at least, is based in New York rather then DC. It must be more difficult for her to get the DC crowd to come for a visit than it is for Matthews.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
60. I can't stand Tweety, never could. Anyone who was fooled so completely that he got tingles down his
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 12:13 AM
Nov 2014

leg when he saw Bush pretending to be a war hero in the flight suit with the prominent cod piece, has ZERO 'savvy'.

But even worse than that, he went on to suggest that 'women love this stuff' as he gushed over that staged event. I guess his opinion of women is pretty low.

Then he went on to make it even worse again by asking: 'Seriously you have to admit, can you imagine Liberals being able to strut like that, to exude such (blah blah blah) as Bush did in that suit'

And then, the worst part. He gave examples of Liberals he apparently viewed, as 'so wimpy' there was no way they could put on a flight suit like that 'and carry it off'. ONE OF THE LIBERALS HE USED AS AN EXAMPLE was GEORGE McGOVERN!

Clearly the moron, Tweety I mean, had no idea that McGovern was an ACTUAL, REAL LIFE, WAR HERO. One who didn't just 'strut and swagger' around in a flight suit, he actually wore one as a WW11 Fighter Pilot.

Anyone that ignorant is nothing but another of the media blowhards dished up to the public as 'experts'.

He's a DC insider and a pretty ignorant, nasty person.

Haven't watched his show since I heard him CHEER for a Fake 'hero' in a flight suit who went AWOL from the NG while ignorantly slamming a true, LIBERAL, actual WW11 Fighter Pilot.

Still makes me angry to think about it.

Just another talking head.

We don't get too many intelligent and knowledgeable people on our media, so I stopped watching all of it a long time ago.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
2. "Manic Maddow"?? Excuse me?
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:00 PM
Nov 2014

One of the many things she is not, is manic. She's one of the best, most level-headed people they have. Manic? You have to be kidding.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
12. John Fugelsang dropped an aside about a week ago that
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:28 PM
Nov 2014

he's been having meetings at MSNBC. Now I know he does little guest spots on Ed and other shows, so I'm certain the meetings aren't about those. Could it be he might get a show? If so, that would indicate a further move to the left.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
29. There is no Current TV unless we've gone back in time.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:48 PM
Nov 2014

Do you mean Al Jazeera or are you pulling my leg?

babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
54. He would be awesome! A Stewart , or Colbert, or Oliver
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 10:50 PM
Nov 2014

in the making, on msnbc?

Be still, my heart!

Let it be so!!!

Azathoth

(4,609 posts)
13. Chris Hayes. Ed Schultz.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:30 PM
Nov 2014

I like Hayes, but he has decimated their prime time ratings. People tune in for Hardball, then a third of them leave when his show comes on and come back an hour later for Maddow. I'm pretty sure that's almost unheard of.

Ed's ratings are so bad anymore his show can't be distinguished from background noise.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
17. Yes, Chris Hayes. People actually seem to be watching Matthews, leaving, then returning for Maddow
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:34 PM
Nov 2014

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
36. Mediabistro is a good source
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:59 PM
Nov 2014

The numbers you're seeing are the 25 - 54 demo. An important demo, yes.

I'm looking at numbers overall in the last measured 30 day period.

MSNBC’s highest-rated show in total viewers was “Hardball with Chris Matthews,” which came in at 15th while “The Rachel Maddow Show” was 16th.


http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/the-top-cable-news-shows-in-october-were_b243831#more-243831

This could change through November. We'll find out in December.

Good piece here:

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/10/29/hardball-replaces-rachel-maddow-msnbcs-highest-rated-show.html

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
62. I really appreciate the information.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 12:20 AM
Nov 2014

I've been looking at the TVNewser 25-54 demo rating for years without reading/comprehending the small print.

I apologize for my post sounding blunt. I stand corrected and am grateful for the link to more detailed ratings.

Thanks again!

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
65. I you REALLY want to know which show they find the most valuable
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:09 AM
Nov 2014

... figure out which one as the the most 18 -32 FEMALE viewers.

Azathoth

(4,609 posts)
46. I agree
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 10:28 PM
Nov 2014

Up was by far the best weekend political show on all the networks, including the broadcast channels. Taking Hayes away from the discussion panel format and having him read a teleprompter for 40 minutes was an inept move.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
34. I just hope MSNBC has the intelligence to figure out how massive the progressive market is.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:53 PM
Nov 2014

If they went with an actual Liberal/Progressive network as a counter piece to Faux News. Their market share would be huge. Including on a regular basis, actual liberals and the conservative stalkers and trolls.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
35. Manic Maddow?
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:59 PM
Nov 2014

Why doesn't that surprise me coming from you?

Her show is the only one on MSNBC always worth watching. She is not manic in any way. What a sexist thing to say. Ugh. She is super smart and reports accurately. Is that threatening somehow?

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
57. Uhmm... Tebow will be on the SEC/CBSTV network on the weekends!!
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 10:54 PM
Nov 2014


BTW, where is trumad. The sports group is awfully quiet these days!

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
66. If they were getting rid of Maddow, she wouldn't be running
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:15 AM
Nov 2014

the panels on election night. Chris Matthews used to run them while she sat on the sidelines. Now Matthews sits on the sidelines. That's a good indicator of where she stands with MSNBC.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
68. Haven't watched it in 2years. Couldn't be happier.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 09:27 AM
Nov 2014

The Internet is far better for news. I dunno if Maddow is manic..but she's super boring.

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