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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:28 AM Nov 2014

FCC Chairman Splits From Obama on Rules for the Web

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/26925-fcc-chairman-splits-from-obama-on-rules-for-the-web

ours after President Obama called for the Federal Communications Commission to pass tougher regulations on high-speed Internet providers, the agency’s Democratic chairman told a group of business executives that he was moving in a different direction.

Huddled in an FCC conference room Monday with officials from major Web companies, including Google, Yahoo and Etsy, agency Chairman Tom Wheeler said he has preferred a more nuanced solution. That approach would deliver some of what Obama wants but also would address the concerns of the companies that provide Internet access to millions of Americans, such as Comcast, Time Warner Cable and AT&T.

“What you want is what everyone wants: an open Internet that doesn’t affect your business,” a visibly frustrated Wheeler said at the meeting, according to four people who attended. “What I’ve got to figure out is how to split the baby.”

The dissonance between Obama and Wheeler has the makings of a major policy fight affecting multibillion-dollar industries. The president wants clear rules to prevent Internet service providers from auctioning the fastest speeds to the highest bidders, a scenario that could favor rich Web firms over start-ups.

Wheeler, a former lobbyist for the cable and telecommunications industry, has floated proposals that aim to limit the ability of service providers to charge Web companies, such as Netflix or Google, to reach their customers. But critics have argued that his approach would give the providers too much leeway to favor some services over others.

Given the high stakes, White House aides had wrestled over whether Obama should publicly prod the FCC to adopt the strongest rules possible on the “net neutrality” issue. Ultimately, aides felt that a public stance would galvanize allies in Congress as well as young, tech-savvy progressives, a key part of the Democratic base, according to several people familiar with the matter. The decision to speak out also comes as Democrats are aggressively courting Silicon Valley in preparation for the 2016 campaigns.
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FCC Chairman Splits From Obama on Rules for the Web (Original Post) eridani Nov 2014 OP
He can explain his reasons on the back of his resignation letter. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #1
Why on earth was this lobbyist made Chairman of the FCC? onwardsand upwards Nov 2014 #2
He was also a campaign donation bundler for the President. nt Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #12
We should be shocked, SHOCKED that a corporate lobbyist appointed by the President would side with myrna minx Nov 2014 #3
In any other country in the world he would have been fired malaise Nov 2014 #4
The fcc is not an executive branch employee onenote Nov 2014 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #5
No MrScorpio Nov 2014 #6
Good gravy. What a load of...something. MIRT should be by momentarily. myrna minx Nov 2014 #7
The good thing is that person now can get some mental treatment due to Obamacare nt MrScorpio Nov 2014 #8
Ha. myrna minx Nov 2014 #10
Good cop; bad cop. Very old gambit. merrily Nov 2014 #9
Truly, nobody could have foreseen that MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #14
..... merrily Nov 2014 #21
Ah, good cop/bad cop... vi5 Nov 2014 #11
It's worth noting that what is glaringly absent from this story is Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #13
Again....good cop/bad cop. vi5 Nov 2014 #15
Fart joke. A little Vaudeville. Works every time. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #18
"Throttle? I hardly know her!!" Wacka Wacka!!!! vi5 Nov 2014 #19
The drama! The Controversy! The irreconcilable split! The Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #16
He's got it totally backwards. Everyone wants business that doesn't affect the open internet. Zorra Nov 2014 #17
 

onwardsand upwards

(276 posts)
2. Why on earth was this lobbyist made Chairman of the FCC?
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:49 AM
Nov 2014

As John Oliver said, it's like making a dingo a babysitter.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
3. We should be shocked, SHOCKED that a corporate lobbyist appointed by the President would side with
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:58 AM
Nov 2014

his corporate employers? Why on earth did the President appoint him in the first place?

malaise

(269,045 posts)
4. In any other country in the world he would have been fired
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:00 AM
Nov 2014

after the comment. A Federal government employee works for the Executive Branch and enforces its policy directives.

These fuggers are owned by corporations and their lobbyists.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
20. The fcc is not an executive branch employee
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 09:47 AM
Nov 2014

As has been explained in several other threads, the FCC was established as an "independent " agency. It's members do not serve at the pleasure of the president. They don't enforce the presidents policy directives. They interpret implement and enforce the Communications Act.

Response to eridani (Original post)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
9. Good cop; bad cop. Very old gambit.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:16 AM
Nov 2014

Obama could have nominated a fierce internet neutrality advocate to the FCC. Instead, he nominated Wheeler, a telecommunications industry insider, big time.

The SCOTUS told the FCC that it could not regulate the industry heavily unless it reclassified to a public utility. The FCC's response was to ignore the SCOTUS--let that sink in--ignore the SCOTUS and attempt heavy regulation without reclassification. The very predictable result was that Verizon and others sued, citing the SCOTUS and the federal Circuit Court of Appeals followed SCOTUS precedent, as it is bound to do, and Verizon won.

Result: It was highly touted then, including by DU's lawyer posters, that the Court had tied the hands of the Obama's FCC as to net neutrality. Not true. (When called on this, come DUers claimed reclassification was not a realistic possibility, but, oh look, Obama has called for it, or so it would seem.) And now, DUers are claiming Obama can do nothing about this, other than fire Wheeler as chair, which would make no difference anyway, so why should Obama do even that?

We're being set up. Again. Please see replies 12 and 70 of North Carolina on another thread on the same subject.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025804857#post12E

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025804857#post70

Oh, hell, just see the entire thread. Except for the usual unconditional supporter postersplaining, it's full of good replies.

And the people who see 3 dimensional chess in every move of Obama that gets criticized either won't see it this time or won't admit they see it.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
14. Truly, nobody could have foreseen that
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 08:28 AM
Nov 2014

the dingo would eat the baby even if asked not to.

Obama suffers terribly, trapped in aworld full of meanies over which he has no control.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
11. Ah, good cop/bad cop...
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 08:02 AM
Nov 2014

A classic as old as time itself.

Well played, Mr. President. Well played.

Now you can just shrug your shoulders, say "Well, I tried. I really wanted it, but....hey you know this guy over here, amiright?"

You've definitely perfected that routine.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
13. It's worth noting that what is glaringly absent from this story is
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 08:26 AM
Nov 2014

any sense that the President coordinated with Wheeler. Did the President at any time pick up a phone, call Wheeler and ask for his thoughts? Why would Obama make a major policy announcement like this only to be publicly embarrassed by his own appointee?

These are honest questions I can't even begin to find a logical answer for.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
15. Again....good cop/bad cop.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 08:57 AM
Nov 2014

That's his role in this. Same thing with all of the other things over the years that he's supposedly been in favor of, but goshdarnit someone is always getting in the way. And then....you know, what can he do? It's out of his hands?

The other question on this and immigration reform is why the hell did he wait until after the election to stake positions and/or threaten exec order? It's almost like....I don't know....he didn't WANT to motivate 2 big voting blocks (latinos and young people/tech libertarian types).

But again, us asking these questions misses the point to the same degree that asking why the Washington Generals don't just hire some better players or complain to the refs.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
17. He's got it totally backwards. Everyone wants business that doesn't affect the open internet.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 09:12 AM
Nov 2014

Not an open internet that doesn't affect business.

Businesses are voracious and insatiable. No matter how much money profit they make, they always want more. In regard to the open internet, the open internet is not hurting their insanely high profits.

But they want more profit. They always want more and more, and will get it any way they can, no matter how unethical the means and gains. And they can get this by leveling discriminatory fees to make direct and collateral profits, and wipe freedom of expression off the internet at the same time.

What they really want here is total control of the public mind through media manipulation, the type of mind control they employ with television. The internet is the last bastion of mass freedom of speech, and this poses a threat to their agenda of creating a completely docile, unquestioning, fully controlled consumerbot society.

If Wheeler gets these giant media corporations what they want, eventually our only options for the mass dissemination of information will be corporate propaganda brought to us by various forms of Fox News, all basically owned by the same people with the same agenda.

To work us like draft horses, milk us like cows, shear us like sheep, and then dispose of us like cockroaches.


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