Tribes to receive Yellowstone bison held by Turner

[mfcorey1]

A group of Yellowstone National Park bison is due to finally arrive at a permanent home on a northeastern Montana American Indian reservation on Thursday, almost a decade after they were captured and spared from slaughter.

About 100 of the 138 animals were loaded onto trucks late Wednesday to travel overnight to the Fort Peck Indian Reservation, home to the Assiniboine and Sioux tribes.

All of the bison were set to make the trip Wednesday, but one of the trucks broke down. The remaining bison will begin their journey Thursday.

The small herd will help tribal members regain a connection to an animal that helped shaped their ancestors' nomadic existence, tribal officials said.

Bison, also known as buffalo, still play a central role in many ceremonies for Plains Indian tribes.

The Yellowstone animals will be "welcomed with prayers," said Tom Escarcega, one of a group of Assiniboine and Sioux tribal leaders who planned to escort the animals to Fort Peck.

"It starts to bring back our ceremonies that we kind of forgot," Escarcega said. "In our culture, we treat the buffalo as a people, and we're the two-legged nation. They deserve respect."

http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/top-news/tribes-to-receive-yellowstone-bison-held-by-turner/nh6HP/

[malaise]

1. K & R

Nice

[Omaha Steve]

2. IT DOESN'T MAKE UP FOR THE YOUNG WHITE BUFFALO KILLED A FEW YEARS AGO

Rare white buffalo slain and skinned, sheriff says: http://www.myfoxdfw.com/story/18147547/rare-white-buffalo-slain-skinned-sheriff




Lightning Medicine Cloud, rare white buffalo calf born May 12, 2011.

Posted: May 04, 2012 10:59 AM CDT
Updated: May 04, 2012 5:05 PM CDT
By: myfoxdfw.com Staff

The Hunt County Sheriff's Department is among several agencies investigating the gruesome death of a rare white buffalo, born nearly a year ago on a ranch near Greenville.

Lakota Buffalo Ranch owner Arby Little Soldier said he and his wife returned from out of town to find the calf, considered sacred by some in the Native American community, killed and skinned. The next day its mother was also found dead.

The non-albino white buffalo was named Lightning Medicine Cloud in a special ceremony last summer. The chance of a white buffalo birth is said to be 1 in 10 million.

"My people – my brothers, my sisters – are hurt for what has happened here at this ranch," Little Soldier said. "You don't think things like this are going to happen to such a sacred animal, a sacred family."

Sheriff Randy Meeks said he was notified of the crime by Texas Parks and Wildlife. His office is investigating with the help of the Department of Homeland Security and the National Indian Council.

FULL story AND VIDEO at link.




K&R!

[ag_dude]

3. What was the connection of those involved in this?

[Omaha Steve]

4. Nothing

Just something to add to the long list the white man did to the first Americans.

[ag_dude]

6. white man?

They never figured out who did that and the owner himself suspected ano the Native American tribe.

Do you know something that isn't public info?

[Omaha Steve]

7. I'm not buying it was a first/native american

Just a convenient excuse.

[ag_dude]

8. not a single thing has come up about a "white man"

What source or info did you see that indicaTed it was a white man?

[Omaha Steve]

9. What makes somebody that didn't see the suspect...

Think it was native. If you don't see who, why assume?

[ag_dude]

10. Why ask me that, I didn't say it.

It's not hard to go back and find the news stories on the situation, did you even read them? Little Soldier accused Old Crow of doing it.

He also claims it was a professional poisoning that killed the mother. Not much about his story make sense and his refusal to allow the vet to investigate the bones further is extremely suspicious. Little Soldier stealing the money sent in for a reward and never using any of the money for the reward he promised just makes it stink to high heaven.

The vet's opinion that it was blackleg that killed the calf and then the mother a day later is a lot more plausible. If I had to guess, the calf died of blackleg (an insanely easy to prevent disease that is also easy to diagnose once it's killed a calf) and Little Soldier covered his ass with the slaughtering.

There's one thing for sure, nowhere have I seen anything that indicates a "white man".

What evidence or lead do you know of that caused you to say that?

[Omaha Steve]

11. Again no witness

I read a lot about this at the time.

IF you look a little you will see this wasn't the only suspicious death of a sacred whit buffalo in the last few years.

That is like saying "I didn't see the black guy that stole my car". Assuming it was a native without an eye witness or physical evidence means you leave the suspect info on the report BLANK. Your talking circumstantial. I write police reports for a living BTW.

I think we should drop the hi-jacking of this OP.

OS

[ag_dude]

12. No, we shouldn't, but I could understand why somebody like you would want to.

He didn't say some random Native American killed the buffalo, he said a specific man from a different tribe did.

YOU on the other hand tied it to a "white man".

Where did you get that idea from?

What "white man" was involved in the case?

What are the other "suspicious death of a sacred white buffalo" that you are talking about?

[Omaha Steve]

13. Your right

Natives got fair deal on the land they lost over 250 years, game, etc. Great opinion.

[Omaha Steve]

15. You did read drop it? Hijacked?

So I can tell your comprehension really sucks.

[Omaha Steve]

18. I'm moody

It was early. I can misstate things early in the day like this morning. I have trouble sleeping. It has an effect. I'm medicated and dying. What is your excuse for being a total ass?


OS

[Omaha Steve]

19. I was watching TV

Congratulations on being the FIRST to ever get put on my ignore list.

OS

[elehhhhna]

23. gosh you're meanspirited. wow.

[Electric Monk]

24. account now "flagged for review". nt

[1StrongBlackMan]

25. And ignorant ...

In what America can a Native American be racist?

[Oktober]

28. If they dislike people based on the color of their skin...

... Then they qualify.

[1StrongBlackMan]

29. You have defined race-based "bigotry" ...

not racism, which is systemic and institutional.

[Oktober]

31. You can call a tail a leg but it doesn't make it one...

Whatever you gotta tell yourself...

[1StrongBlackMan]

32. And you can reject the state of social science ..

But that just proves you uninformed. And, continuing to do so in opposition to the science, proves you WILLFULLY uninformed ... or worse.

[Oktober]

34. In other news, a small but vocal minority have changed the word `the`

Due to a desire to more easily conform to the gendered articles of the rest of the world.

Doesn't matter that no one else is going to acknowledge it. They called dibs and by decree everyone else is wrong due to 'science'

You are adorable...

You might have a point if there was any hint of consensus other than the fringe folks who are trying to explain why certain forms of racism are better than others.

[1StrongBlackMan]

35. Fringe folks? ...

Try just about every post-Civil Rights era social scientist that has studied and written on the subject of racism.

The fringe folks are folks like you, that cling to pre-1980s understanding of the phenomena.

BTW, racism is NOT "better than" any other "ism", nor is any form of bigotry, "better than" better than anything else.

[Oktober]

36. As I said.. . Whatever helps you look in the mirror...

[1StrongBlackMan]

37. Perhaps if you looked into a mirror ...

we would not have to have this discussion.

[Oktober]

38. I'm quite comfortable with my understanding of the definition of racism...

It's much easier because mine doesn't have any fine print or asterisks...

If you dislike or treat someone poorly or generalize because of their skin color... You are a racist...

Easy peasy...

That certainly does not negate the concept of institutional racism but of course that is a subset of the larger category.

I can see how you might get a bit more bogged down in your version.

[1StrongBlackMan]

39. I'm quite certain you are ...

I'm quite comfortable with my understanding of the definition of racism ... It's much easier because mine doesn't have any fine print or asterisks...

Just as the gop is quite comfortable in their understanding of climate change. And like the gop, when offered the state academic understanding, you remain comfortable in your contrary, but unschooled, understanding.

I can see how you might get a bit more bogged down in your version.

Yes ... Liberals do tend to inform our opinions on current academic conclusions. The question is/should be, why are you comfortable in the 20th century?

[Oktober]

40. I agree that the small fringe that are attempting to redefine the concept of racism..

... in an amazingly convenient manner that excludes an enormous segment of the population from it, are equivalent to the same whack fringe scientists who think that the climate doesn't change.

Glad to see you came around...

Being loud and stubborn and demanding that the world conform to how you'd like it to be certainly doesn't make it so...

Well done...

[1StrongBlackMan]

41. Again, A SMALL FRINGE??? ...

Try the weight of 21st century academia.

But Okay ... I'm done.

ETA: But one point to ponder: Your whole argument is based on Racism being, somehow, worse than bigotry ... Why is that?

[7962]

33. Because it fits the purpose to ALWAYS first blame the "white man"!

Known facts mean nothing, you should know that by now!

[jwirr]

22. Why I do not believe a Native would kill the White Buffalo: They are sacred to the people. No one

would.

[X_Digger]

26. Rather stereotypical, no? Native Americans aren't a monolithic block, in culture, attitude, or..

.. individuality. There are assholes in any group of people who do shitty things.

[jwirr]

27. No they are not but in our family we still honor some of the old ways while living in your society.

[BlueJazz]

5. Interesting article on Buffalo and their relationship with the American Indian.>

http://indians.org/welker/buffalo3.htm

[Sunlei]

30. so old Ted got about 10 years of slaughter calves out of OUR Bison out of Americans park...

I guess the American citizens paid for round-up, capture and transportation to Teds private ranch. Did we also pay for feed and maintenance. Who profited from the calves?

Why didn't they leave the bison free instead of spending 20k federal money per bison? (or more)