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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGreider: The trouble started when the party abandoned its working-class base.
This is from the December 1-8 2014 edition of The Nation. William Greider has strong words for the Democrats.
I fully realize there are many reasons, much speculation about why we lost so badly. But there is a reason at the heart of it all. Greider spares no words.
He mentions how President Obama and the Democrats kept telling us brighten up, the economy is getting better. Things are looking up. It may be true to economists, but I think it may be correct as Greider surmises....to assume the average person isn't feeling all that hopeful yet.
How the Democratic Party Lost Its Soul
A party truly connected to the people would never have dared to make such a claim. In the real world of voters, human experience trumps macroeconomics and the slowly declining official unemployment rate. An official at the AFL-CIO culled the following insights from what voters said about themselves on Election Day: 54 percent suffered a decline in household income during the past year. Sixty-three percent feel the economy is fundamentally unfair. Fifty-five percent agree strongly (and another 25 percent agree somewhat) that both political parties are too focused on helping Wall Street and not enough on helping ordinary people.
Instead of addressing this reality and proposing remedies, the Democrats ran on a cowardly, uninspiring platform: the Republicans are worse than we are. Undoubtedly, thats truebut so what? The president and his party have no credible solutions to offer. To get serious about inequality and the deteriorating middle class, Democrats would have to undo a lot of the damage their own party has done to the economy over the past thirty years.
Long ago, the party abandoned its working-class base (of all colors) and steadily distanced itself from the unglamorous conditions that matter most in peoples lives. Traditional party bulwarks like organized labor and racial minorities became second-string players in the hierarchy that influences party policy. But the Dems didnt just lose touch with the people they claimed to speak for; they betrayed core constituencies and adopted pro-business, pro-finance policies that actively injure working people.
The shift away from the people was embraced most dramatically when Bill Clintons New Democrats came to power in the 1990s. Clinton double-crossed labor with NAFTA and subsequent trade agreements, which encouraged the great migration of manufacturing jobs to low-wage economies. Clintons bank deregulation shifted the economic rewards to finance and set the stage for the calamity that struck in 2008. Wall Street won; working people lost. Clinton presided over the financialization of the Democratic Party. Obama merely inherited his playbook and has governed accordingly, often with the same policy-makers.
The people, of course, are still present in the party, but theyre treated mainly as data for election strategies. The voters themselves resemble the supernumeraries in a grand opera: they appear on stage at election time, always lavishly praised by the pols. But they are given no lines to speak or songs to sing.
Greider was one of those who loudly called attention to the efforts recently by both parties to cut benefits of Social Security while proclaiming they were making it safer.
Social Security: Bipartisan Fervor to Whack the Old Folks
In appalling consensus has developed among Washington elites: they tell themselves cutting Social Security is a slam-dunk. If the two parties will hold hands and act together, they reason, voters cant blame either one. When Washington players talk up bipartisan compromise, it usually means the people are about to get screwed.
Its part of the new austerityAmerican-style. Well all have to learn to live with less, were told, in order to reduce Americas swollen federal deficits. So well whack Social Security benefits, dump school teachers and other state employees, and suppress wages by accepting high unemployment.
Yes, indeed, Greider is right. In the words of one of the founders of one centrist Dem think tank that was superceded by another similar centrist Dem think tank....that is EXACTLY what they intended to do.
Raising money to lessen reliance on the traditional interest groups of the party.
Yes, I quote this guy often.
"Simon Rosenberg, the former field director for the DLC who directs the New Democrat Network, a spin-off political action committee, says, "We're trying to raise money to help them lessen their reliance on traditional interest groups in the Democratic Party. In that way," he adds, "they are ideologically freed, frankly, from taking positions that make it difficult for Democrats to win."
It was done deliberately, and now it is time to reverse course. Their way has not worked out too well during the last two midterms.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Thank you madfloridian!!
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)had on the election.
CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)a large segment of the population that votes based on sound bites, rather than informed decisions.
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)Could it be that there is an ongoing effort to DISENFRANCHISE the base that would vote Democrat because they would vote for redistributionist policies whereas the Big Money donors the DLC and Third Way were courting were rabidly against any policy that bore the slightest whiff of redistribution for social purposes.
The new economic philosophy was to seize politics and redistribute financial power to business "leaders" who would uses their concentrated wealth to keep the political machines in place.
The American people need to stop fearing the word "redistribution" and use the power of the vote at every level to allocate resources back to building public infrastructure and developing social resources - creating a civilization that we all get to live in.
I'd like to make it a slogan: "Stop the Suffering - Redistribute Now!"
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)1. 24/7 media propagandizing and the systemic freeze-out of dissident voices on the real left.
2. The dumbing down - via defunding education (eta - and aggravated) by the complete failure to teach critical thinking skills and the grotesquely widespread simple-minded religidiocy - of the mass populace.
3. Systematic disenfranchisement of Democratic voting blocs.
Pretty much in that order.
See also my post at: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5807859
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)You are one of the most incisive and thoughtful among DUers and I am flattered. It's just a matter of putting the pieces together, and I give a hearty to DUers woo me with science and Octafish, both priceless members of this community, for sharpening my abilities to do so. I have long been an enthusiastic amateur historian and the parallels are becoming very frightening. Orwell only got the half of it.
2banon
(7,321 posts)daredtowork
(3,732 posts)Unbelievable. And I agree with your analysis completely. We make fun of the invocation of "fascism" on the Internet, but, seriously, the signs and steps are all there. When it's being done, it's done in such a quiet way that you can't hear the victims screaming.
The deprivation of all political representation is the first step.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)which is why I recycled it in that thread.
Will try again tomorrow. I think it's actually pretty good.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)After Obama was re-elected in 2012, he and the Democrats in Congress voted to create permanent tax cuts of $3.7 trillion per decade. (actually $3.7 trllion for the first decade, the second decade will probably be $5.7 trillion or something, assuming the economy is still chugging along).
$2.4 trillion to the top 20%
$1.3 trillion to the top 5%
$1.3 trillion to the bottom 80%
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2130101
Now try to imagine some crazy world where Democrats insisted on dividing $3.7 trillion equally.
$0.74 trillion for the top 20%
almost $3 trillion for the bottom 80%
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)And that Republicans use tax policy to redistribute to the 1% all the time (so that the ill-gotten goods will trickle down...).
It's precisely because this was a blatant redistribution that I think it should be okay to be up front about redistributing some of the money more equitably across society.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)Hoppy
(3,595 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)Thanks for the laugh.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I meant Bosnia.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Pottsylvania. Or was it Fredonia?
arikara
(5,562 posts)it was Kardashhiastan wasn't it?
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)until recently, part of their strategy was to stifle voices from their minority base for fear they would alienate what I can only imagine were Southern racists.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)It's pretty blatant, too.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)...with their, 'centrist,' nonsense. They just do not get it. Republicans won't vote for them - EVER. Independents won't vote for people with no core principles and the base won't turn out if they are abandoned.
When they go 'centrist' they abandon EVERYBODY.
appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)Job losses, manufacturing in Rust Bowl/MidWest and urban East for decades, NAFTA outsourcing jobs including textiles from the South and Appalach. crushed many communities and families. Prisons are housing the unemployed/unneeded fallout from endemic poverty, drugs, crime. Did the corp. Dems. care or need their votes? Apparently not. I'm thinking where else did abandoned, discarded Americans have to go? To church, apathy, dysfunction or GOP. Last summer I saw Clinton at a Geotn. Univ. event, his alama mater, on Cspan-musing how during his terms the coasts tech economies did well but the Midwest not so much...
KG
(28,751 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I am so over that after the blow-out on election day. So many have me on ignore. I was gone a year, came back and found 15 (maybe 16) had me on ignore and I had not even been here.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and came back over the summer. The word-poilce cadre infuriated me so much I couldn't take it anymore so I left for a while. Fortunately some have now left or been tombstoned and I now find DU a more congenial place.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I vaguely recall having seen that feature on the My Profile page years ago but can't find it again.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I checked one day and couldn't find it. I just know that I saw 15, maybe 16 had me on ignore when I came back after a year gone. It never gave the names i don't think.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I could never figure out whether I was frequently misunderstood or just a properly understood asshole.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Still absorbing the elections myself, but I think we'd better pay attention. Right now we've got the presidency. Depending on how we play our cards, 16 will either see a Dem president and probable recovery of the Senate, or 50-51 R Senate and a possible Republican president.
I think it's time to get clued in and develop an agenda that has pretty strong appeal, so voters head out there in 16.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Exactly. Not just we are better than they are. The Democrats don't do campaigns as well as the Republicans do.. Perhaps Dems need to change their advisors.
Rex
(65,616 posts)It must be frustrating having a boss and expecting results that never deliver.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)I mean, surely they know better... right? They wouldn't have an agenda being served by that (I'll put it nicely) exaggeration, would they?
According to the 1987 book Right Turn, DNC chairman Charles Manatt (1981 - 1984) cut a deal with big business and the labor movement to change the financing of the Democratic Party. And according to the book Honest Graft from 1988, former congressman Tony Coelho created the current business-friendly approach to fundraising and candidate recruitment for the DNC.
I'll remind you that during this time Bill Clinton was a governor and the nefarious DLC (cue Darth Vader music) was not in existence.
Let me quote Ralph Nader:
"This was about the same the time that Tony Coelho taught the Democrats, starting in 1979 when he was head of the House Campaign Finance Committee, to start raising big-time money from corporate interests. And they did."
Now, you can call Manatt and Coelho 'conservatives' for their embrace of corporate money but by most accounts they were liberals.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I am sure it did. But the DLC actually formed about the Mid to late 80s.
It's a shame who ever started moving away from the working base of the party.
I use the word liberal because progressive was hijacked by the PPI.
In my mind liberals stand for things people basically need.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)I recall a discussion between Ed Kilgore and either Matt Stoler or Chris Bowers (I forget which one it was) discussing the use of that term. The gist was 'progressive' had not been used in any meaningful way by Democrats for decades because of the negative connotations it carried from the Henry Wallace days and further left liberals and the DLC probably picked it back up around the same time.
But I'll grant you the term is much more suited to the 'progressive' movement today since they more closely resemble Wallace's third party run against Harry Truman.
On edit:
Likewise, "progressive" was not universally used as the self-identifier of the center-left prior to the New Deal. The term was often used by business interests who thought of advanced capitalism as a historically determined trend. And many Populists, who often argued they were restoring a pre-capitalist Jeffersonian political order, certainly didn't embrace the label of "progressive," either.
Chris is spot-on in noting that "progressive" became tainted by its association with the pro-communist (or at least anti-anti-communist) Left, especially in 1948. And he's also right in acknowledging that the revival of the "progressive" self-identification occurred almost simultaneously in two very different parts of the Democratic Party in the 1990s: the anti-war, anti-corporate, anti-establishment Left, and the New Democrat movement in the center-left.
http://www.thedemocraticstrategist.org/newdonkey/2007/01/progressives_and_liberals.html
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Yes, that might be a better word.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)If 'progressive' better suits today's 'progressive' movement because of it's resemblance to Henry Wallace's 'progressive' party (which wasn't the Democratic party), then it's 'progressives' who are the infiltrators. As Bowers explained above, "progressive" was not universally used as the self-identifier of the left prior to the New Deal. And, as you can see in my sig line, Democrats didn't take too kindly to 'progressives,' who Truman called 'crackpots.' (his words, not mine)
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)But the last two midterms our party candidates tried the play nice bipartisan route. And we lost.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)Yes, and in each of those races there was a primary first. If 'progressives' really are a major influence in the Democratic party, they would have run good candidates and taken a few of those nominations. We'll never know how well they would have done because they never made it out of the starting gate.
And everyone knows midterms are, and always have been, an issue for Democrats. It's always about turnout. Even back in that mythological golden age when FDR lost 81 seats in the House, 8 seats in the Senate, and 13 governorships (1938) and Truman lost 55 seats in 1946 and 28 seats in 1950.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)If 'progressives' really are a major influence in the Democratic party, they would have run good candidates and taken a few of those nominations.
I wonder if you honestly believe that the uber wealthy corporate megalomaniacs (who've usurped our media, our politics AND our global economy) don't control which candidates make it "out of the starting gate."
I wonder how many of us noticed the saturation of every available media outlet with ads paid for by the "John Bolton SuperPAC." supporting Republican candidates in "key" races? He and his cronies certainly got their money's worth...
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 14, 2014, 09:25 AM - Edit history (1)
No, I don't believe there is some shadowy corporate overlord controlling the outcome of Democratic primary house races. The shoddy campaigns and the loathing of fundraising is what more often than not does primary losers in. Perhaps you can give a few examples from the last cycle?
chervilant
(8,267 posts)Did I say "shadowy corporate overlord" anywhere in my post? I don't think so.
If you're not aware of the handful of corporate megalomaniacs who've given enormous sums of money to PACs, and to candidates they feel will most likely respond to their political agendas, then you've not been paying attention.
Too many voters are easily swayed by glib political ads and the propaganda spewed by FOX and other corporate-controlled visual media. One needn't believe in a "shadowy corporate overlord" to see how misleading are the corporate-controlled political advertisements du jour.
And, finally, the relentless 'Bolton SuperPAC' ads over the last election cycle epitomize one of the effective strategies that corporate megalomaniacs use to convince voters to 'choose' candidates like Tom Cotton.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)And now that we've cleared that up... example of primary losers who feel victim to "uber wealthy corporate megalomaniacs?" Know any?
chervilant
(8,267 posts)Do your own research, and--please--put me on your IL. I choose not to respond further to your rather patronizing posts.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)On a related note, I'd bet voters don't don't respond to 'progressive' candidate often because of your over- dramatic revolutionary rhetoric... like "uber wealthy corporate megalomaniacs."
chervilant
(8,267 posts)ADD me to your IL, I adjure you!
You could spend weeks and months reading the research that substantiates my assertion--a great many OPs on this forum deal with the issue of corporate wealth being used to control/influence our politics. It's inconceivable that anyone who's spent any time on this website would argue that our politics are NOT co-opted by an identifiable few uber very wealthy corporate individuals.
(Denigrating madfloridian won't endear you to most DUers...)
(If you wish to strengthen your arguments, try to avoid dangling participles...)
(Please don't waste time responding, I've added you to my IL.)
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)Now let's be clear on some things
ADD me to your IL, I adjure you!
No, you're far to entertaining.
You could spend weeks and months reading the research that substantiates my assertion
Then it should be really easy for you to cite some.
Denigrating madfloridian won't endear you to most DUers...
Look at my post count and my profile. See how long I've been here? Now ask yourself: does wyldwolf give a rat's ass about endearing himself to 'most DUers?'
If you wish to strengthen your arguments, try to avoid dangling participles...
If you wish to strengthen yours... no... yours can't be strengthened. Nevermind.
Please don't waste time responding, I've added you to my IL.
oh darn! Now when I point out the folly of your posts you'll never entertain me with replies.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)I took you off my IL for a mo, in order to share with you this link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017226838/
(although I still find it astonishing that you're so woefully ignorant (or in denial) about the corporate hegemony du jour.)
(I won't bother to read your last response, as it's likely as banal as the others...)
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)corporate mouthpieces shaping the winners and losers. MSM shapes public opinion, ahead of the races and during the races, they even shape opinion after the races when polls don't match counts...it's one big con. No shadowy overlords, in your face overlords.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Keep trying! Maybe you can follow in Rush's footsteps of making liberal a slur and do the same with progressive.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:43 PM - Edit history (1)
of the other 3/4 of the country.
Can't anyone read anymore? <- By that I mean the info is out there, but everyone wants things to be better so bad they don't realize a fair portion of the country is STILL divesting themselves of their retirement, homes, etc, just trying to make it.
If you get a chance take a look at the book :"Stress Test" by Timothy "Killer" Geithner. It has some of the details as to why the banks were more important than families or hungry children, and the excuse that it was important for everyone to save some of the biggest donors to the Democratic Party, and how good that would be for people living in poverty. Then we added 10 million people to those already on food stamps. Might find it over in fiction...
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)rurallib
(62,423 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)IMO Dems missed the best chance it will ever get to acquire enough monetary support to win elections from the masses ...so it could tell the rich 1% to fuck off. Oh dear ...I just can't imagine the Dems with a spine. A dream is all I got.
jopacaco
(133 posts)I am a lifelong Democrat but often I don't recognize the party anymore. I fear for the bipartisanship that has the potential to gut Social Security, approve the TPP, and the Keystone Pipeline. There are very few Democrats who I trust anymore.
My husband, who votes in every election, said "What's the point anymore, the fix is in" on election day. He (and I) did vote but it is getting harder and harder to vote for corporate Democrats who represent their moneyed interests, not us.
I just read an article on Crooks and Liars that Nancy Pelosi might nominate a Congressman (Jim Himes) who is a former Goldman Sachs vice president as DCCC chair. If that happens, we will once again see who is really in charge.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Which of course is beyond partisanship, meaning apparently not being the opposition.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)right?
840high
(17,196 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)pa28
(6,145 posts)If our leadership sincerely wanted to rebuild the party and start winning again they would sit down with him and Robert Reich and Dean Baker and Lori Wallach among others.
Unfortunately I don't think they care about winning again. Something tells me when there is nothing else to lose they'll just disappear into the revolving door or into their gated communities and leave the rest of us to fix things from the ground up.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)That's possible. Maybe it's easier to let the GOP take responsibility, then they don't really have to take difficult stands. Just reacting is easier than taking a strong position on issues.
October
(3,363 posts)He shared tweets between Bill Clinton and G. W. Bush.
Really. Gee, how cute. They're buddies in their little club.
I held by nose when I voted for Clinton. So tired of fake Dems.
Disgusted.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Got on my nerves.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)....similar to the way he used to gush over Reagan and Bush.
4dsc
(5,787 posts)Why don't they just go ahead and say it, centrist are to blame.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Especially the Democratic base.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)"Populism" historically has been a mix of economic progressivism and pandering to the bigotry of the white working class.
When forced to choose between them, they voted their bigotry instead of their economic interests and elected Ronald Reagan who destroyed the labor movement almost overnight.
Neither the labor movement nor the Democratic party ever recovered.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)That just ain't gonna work.
I am a retired teacher watching the arrogant sob appointed by Obama doing everything he can to harm teachers' unions and public schools.
The decision to privatize schools may have started with Reagan, but it is being fulfilled by Arne and Obama.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)Wella
(1,827 posts)They did indeed lose their soul.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Interesting analysis. Then check out the rest listed at the top.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Kablooie
(18,634 posts)Both parties were bought up by the rich and its only going to get worse as they now infiltrate the legal system.
Unless the left can buy them back it will never change.
Our political parties only work for the highest bidder.
And if Elizabeth Warren or any other populist politician starts to gain actual power she will be destroyed before she can do much damage, you can be sure of that.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)AND all of your essential posts regarding the ongoing destruction of our system of public education. (Have you noticed that there have been fewer posts lauding Democrats du Jour? Or, has there been a mass migration to groups that vehemently support our current administration? One wonders...)
This resonates for me:
Traditional party bulwarks like organized labor and racial minorities became second-string players in the hierarchy that influences party policy. But the Dems didnt just lose touch with the people they claimed to speak for; they betrayed core constituencies and adopted pro-business, pro-finance policies that actively injure working people.
I am so poor at present that I must pursue a medical bankruptcy. My former boss (now retired) tried to shame me about this ("...in MY day, you paid $5 or $10 a month until your debt was gone " He's a Republican, as I'm sure you gathered.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Thanks much for your contribution and for the discussion. You've spoken truth to power.
wavesofeuphoria
(525 posts)The middle-class, working class, and poor are not a part of the recovery except for how we are used to prop up the Wall Street class. I don't see the recovery in my life or those around me. As a teacher, I saw a lot of families suffering - job cuts, multiple part time work, reduced assistance, and more. And non-monetary effects like stress, anxiety, and depression - real fears about never being able to stay afloat much less get ahead. Everyone praising how great the recovery is, yet, many are left out. It's still trickle-down economics.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)They'll sell everybody out for their cushy lobbyist job when they leave office.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)We can get it together - the circumstances and voter sentiment strongly favor the Democratic party - but to do so we must get back in touch with our roots. That needs to happen from the ground up. And both parties are corporatist and Wall Street oriented now.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)I hadn't seen this but was thinking of posting links to three things that support your post.
First was what Bernie Sanders said on Bill Mahrer's show, that Democrats don't stand up for Democratic values because of money. If they speak up, giant donors will stop funding their campaigns, give more to their opponents, or both.
Second was Robert Reich's blog at http://robertreich.org The Choice of the Century, where, among other things, he said:
"What the President and other Democrats failed to communicate wasnt their accomplishments. It was their understanding that the economy is failing most Americans and big money is overrunning our democracy."
And I also read Michael Brenner's blog called The Democrat's Political Suicide: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-brenner/democrats-political-suicide_b_6133762.html
He give the four steps the party has followed to what he calls the party's wrist slashing. Here is number one:
One, alienate your core constituencies. That includes reneging on a pledge to help the trade unions; launch a campaign of vilification against school teachers -- from kindergarten through college; attack civil liberties protections; commit to reductions in Social Security and Medicare; stiff the environmentalists. In short, do to them in a calculated way what a Republican president would do instinctively.
I am interested in what the Party will do with Reich's choice of the century.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)He give the four steps the party has followed to what he calls the party's wrist slashing. Here is number one:
One, alienate your core constituencies. That includes reneging on a pledge to help the trade unions; launch a campaign of vilification against school teachers -- from kindergarten through college; attack civil liberties protections; commit to reductions in Social Security and Medicare; stiff the environmentalists. In short, do to them in a calculated way what a Republican president would do instinctively.
Wow.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)Many here are way too young to remember this 1965 song. But many can agree with the sentiments of the title.
You have to really root around to find info about what has happened to our party. Thank you for being a valuable source.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)The results of showing scant interest, and even scorn, to our angriest, and youngest, voters were recently seen at the polls. We are now pinning our hopes on the robotic voting of the straight party line during the generally greater turnout of a presidential election.
Politics, we're doing it wrong.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)even given the reasons why.
I understand the reasons, even though I voted.
What troubles me is that we had the lowest election turnout in 72 years. This means the American people do not believe their vote matters. When people don't believe their vote will change anything, what will they do?
Do politicians not realize that the silence of the people is not assent? It's disgust, frustration, despair and hopelessness, plain and simple.
Hopeless, despairing, frustrated and disgusted people in the millions cannot bode well for this nation's future.
I do not believe in violent revolution, but it seems if people aren't voting, some are looking at other ways to gain power, and you can read their screeds all over the internets. They are armed and ready to take out corrupt politicians fatally. They feel there is no other answer. They're wrong, of course. But their silence at the voting booth is frightening.
I would not want to be a Republican politician today.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)I wonder why the DCCC etc are too myopic to see that.
Martin Eden
(12,870 posts)Don't have time to read the links now, but what I read in the OP is spot-on!
gordianot
(15,240 posts)The middle class is under a self imposed hostage situation mostly of their own making or complacency.
Marr
(20,317 posts)benefited tremendously from the internet boom, which their policies had nothing to do with. But it's often cited by the DLC-types as proof that they know how to improve the economy for everyone. They've never been anything more than corporate moles in the party, and this last mid-term proved their scam doesn't work anymore.
appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)a boon to the finance sector and corp. Dems. Derivatives, MBS and housing boom. A lot of money was made in those times and after, from TECH and more. Exec. employee stock options helped much, i.e. 300-500k on top of 150k base salary.
In the Fall 2014 issue of YES! magazine award winning author HEDRICH SMITH ('Who Stole the American Dream' 2012) is quoted,
"1994 Thanks to stock options and rapidly increasing pay, corporate executives overtake wealthy heirs as biggest portion of richest 1 percent".
"1990 Congress passes H-1B visa program. By the early 2000s, nearly a million college-educated Americans lose their jobs to imported foreign workers, mainly in high-tech fields.'
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)wolfie001
(2,252 posts)Burns me to no end!
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)This happened long before the party's move to the center. Let's not pretend they've been part of the base for the last forty or so years because, outside working class minorities, they haven't. Democratic presidential candidates have lost the working class white vote in pretty much every presidential election since the 70s.
The Democratic base is pretty much made up of women, minorities and the working poor.
The only thing inflating Democratic numbers among the working class is the minority in that sub-group - but most certainly white working class voters, specially men, have largely abandoned the party for the Republican Party over social issues. The ethnic whites just aren't there anymore compared to the 1960s - beyond a smattering of local elections.
Hotler
(11,425 posts)they never mention the lower class at the same time or even ever.
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)nt
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Why? Because those voters can neither contribute enough to their wildly expensive election campaigns nor provide them with high paying jobs after they leave the government.
Unforeseen, the First Amendment and the judicial interpretation that money is speech is actually killing the country