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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 06:21 PM Nov 2014

Uranus might be full of surprises




....when University of Arizona astronomer Erich Karkoschka took another look, he saw a different story. He presented his findings this week at the meeting of the Division for Planetary Science of the American Astronomical Association.

Karkoshchka believes that Uranus's southern hemisphere rotates in a way never before seen in gas giants. A gas planet's thick atmosphere, filled with clouds, typically shows the same rate of rotation at the top and bottom. But on Uranus, it seems, the southern hemisphere is cycling much more quickly than up north — as much as 15 percent faster.

"The unusual rotation of high southern latitudes of Uranus is probably due to an unusual feature in the interior of Uranus," Karkoshcka said in a statement. "While the nature of the feature and its interaction with the atmosphere are not yet known, the fact that I found this unusual rotation offers new possibilities to learn about the interior of a giant planet."

Data on gas giants in general are few and far between, so anything that Karkoshcka can glean about Uranus's core would help scientists understand the other planets like it.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2014/11/14/uranus-might-be-full-of-surprises/?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost
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Uranus might be full of surprises (Original Post) kpete Nov 2014 OP
...Sigh Scootaloo Nov 2014 #1
The accent goes on the first syllable. longship Nov 2014 #8
Correct. Folks should use the correct pronunciation, it is only right. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #11
BOTH pronunciations are correct. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #15
Sorry, you are wrong. Astronomers do not say yur-A-nus. nt longship Nov 2014 #30
Merriam-Webster recognizes BOTH pronunciations Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #41
Well, Merriam-Webster was not written by astronomers. longship Nov 2014 #42
Here's the solution: BeanMusical Nov 2014 #44
DUzy! ;) nt longship Nov 2014 #47
Why so technical just uasshole serves the purpose without any big still_one Nov 2014 #52
I bet it is the other way around hfojvt Nov 2014 #45
You may be correct. longship Nov 2014 #46
I think you would like this book: CrispyQ Nov 2014 #54
So Astronomers AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #64
Well, astronomers named the thing. So yes. nt longship Nov 2014 #66
hmmmm AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #67
The dictionary says Ricochet21 Nov 2014 #69
The Titan was translated as "Ouranos" Nevernose Nov 2014 #62
We would have sent an orbiter there already if not for how it would play in the press. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #33
They changed it in the 26th century. It's now called "Urectum". Initech Nov 2014 #49
Wrecked 'em? It tidally locked 'em! n/t Orsino Nov 2014 #60
Another DUzy worth response. :rofl: nt longship Nov 2014 #61
It's name should be Ricochet21 Nov 2014 #68
I bet! skippy66 Nov 2014 #2
lol Liberal_in_LA Nov 2014 #38
I'm going to be quite silly and suggest SheilaT Nov 2014 #3
Not a theory Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #19
Uranus is the coldest planet in the solar system. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #34
I sent the link on this article to my son, the budding astrophysicist, SheilaT Nov 2014 #36
I was an astrophysics student for a while at Berkeley. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #37
Well Cassini at Saturn has been a scientific as well as visual goldmine. Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #39
Same astrophysicist son now says: SheilaT Nov 2014 #48
Just a note IDemo Nov 2014 #4
No help there. KamaAina Nov 2014 #10
*snort* Bobbie Jo Nov 2014 #26
Trickle-down? PeoViejo Nov 2014 #28
Or customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #29
I liked neither pronunciation and found my own way which should be quite exceptable.. Cha Nov 2014 #13
They say "po tah toe" too... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #16
You're not kidding jberryhill Nov 2014 #5
I hate when that happens... Thor_MN Nov 2014 #6
You never know what kid of shit you'll find up there. JeffHead Nov 2014 #7
I will leave the inevitable jokes to others. hifiguy Nov 2014 #9
It's always full of surprises.. I've known this for a long time.. ever since I started Cha Nov 2014 #12
What a gorgeous picture. dmr Nov 2014 #21
Isn't dmr.. the Planet are Incredible! Cha Nov 2014 #23
Wish I could rec. CrispyQ Nov 2014 #55
LOL. Let's hope not. TwilightGardener Nov 2014 #14
In honor of George Takei... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #17
That's the same thing my proctologist said Boom Sound 416 Nov 2014 #18
The older I get hootinholler Nov 2014 #20
I went to Taco Bell today Aerows Nov 2014 #22
Talk about a setup? aggiesal Nov 2014 #24
It's stellar! rug Nov 2014 #25
Cheap Old Nick Nov 2014 #27
Maybe we should launch a probe to investigate. MrScorpio Nov 2014 #31
Uhmm. That's what my wife says to me every morning... madinmaryland Nov 2014 #32
Along with everyone who knows you. El Supremo Nov 2014 #51
HOW ABOUT THEM BRONCOS!! madinmaryland Nov 2014 #70
But you'll just have to wait until Christmas Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #35
Since Uranus rotates on its side (axial tilt 98 degrees, compared to Earth's 23) muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #40
Oh, it definitely is full of surprises. Jamastiene Nov 2014 #43
Not for ME, dear. sibelian Nov 2014 #50
Yeah, it's covered by Klingons. El Supremo Nov 2014 #53
You don't know tha half of it. Iggo Nov 2014 #56
It surprises me daily... LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #57
I'm sorry, I do my best to keep it clean. RandySF Nov 2014 #58
Oh, you can't imagine how full of surprises. Orsino Nov 2014 #59
Wow. Is that really a picture of uranus? It's beautiful. Vattel Nov 2014 #63
Are there rings around Uranus? n/t trackfan Nov 2014 #65
Only if you don't practice good hygiene ... MrMickeysMom Nov 2014 #71

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. The accent goes on the first syllable.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 06:44 PM
Nov 2014

And the A is a short A, pronounced "ah"

So it's proper pronunciation is YUR-ah-nus, low hanging sophomoric humor notwithstanding (so to speak).

longship

(40,416 posts)
42. Well, Merriam-Webster was not written by astronomers.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:49 AM
Nov 2014

And pop culture -- I imagine from the obvious joke -- is partially the origin of the yur-A-nus pronunciation. But I can't remember the last time I heard an astronomer pronounce it that way.

It's YUR-ah-nus, with a short A and the accent on the first syllable.

I confess that it's a bit of a bugaboo of mine.
Sorry.

My regards.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
44. Here's the solution:
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 01:44 PM
Nov 2014

Professor Farnsworth: I'm sorry, Fry, but astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all.

Fry: Oh. What's it called now?

Professor: Urrectum. Here, let me locate it for you.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
45. I bet it is the other way around
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 02:41 PM
Nov 2014

that it was pronounced as anus until the junior high thugs noticed and then suddenly the new pronunciation was created and propagated. "They're laughing at us for saying anus, we need to start saying yoor-an-us."

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
54. I think you would like this book:
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 06:03 PM
Nov 2014
There Is No Zoo in Zoology: And Other Beastly Mispronunciations
by Charles Harrington Elster
November 1, 1988

http://www.amazon.com/There-Is-Zoo-Zoology-Mispronunciations/dp/0020318308

There is a companion book, "Is There a Cow in Moscow?" that is also, good, but not quite as good as Zoo.

I love these books!

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
64. So Astronomers
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:30 PM
Nov 2014

control how words are pronounced in situ of the dictionary......... I never knew scientists had this power.

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
67. hmmmm
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 03:58 PM
Nov 2014

Does the Oxford committee know that they are powerless in the face of science when it comes to words?

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
62. The Titan was translated as "Ouranos"
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 09:37 PM
Nov 2014

In the 1800s -- in all the classical mythology texts -- so I always assumed that was the correct phonic translation.

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
33. We would have sent an orbiter there already if not for how it would play in the press.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 01:46 AM
Nov 2014

"Uranus Probed (titter titter)."

We should just go to the Latinized Greek spelling, "Ouranos."

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
3. I'm going to be quite silly and suggest
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 06:32 PM
Nov 2014

that a version of Global Warming is going on in Uranus's southern hemisphere.

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
34. Uranus is the coldest planet in the solar system.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 01:49 AM
Nov 2014

If you dumped liquid nitrogen into it, you would warm it.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
36. I sent the link on this article to my son, the budding astrophysicist,
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 02:40 AM
Nov 2014

and his response was: "like Neptune, badly in need of an orbiter mission, though that is likely to be several decades out."

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
37. I was an astrophysics student for a while at Berkeley.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 02:46 AM
Nov 2014

Had to leave because of health issues making the work load impractical.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
39. Well Cassini at Saturn has been a scientific as well as visual goldmine.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 03:34 AM
Nov 2014

I agree, I'd like to see orbiters at both Neptune and Uranus. There is a lot of interesting real estate in the Solar System, though.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
48. Same astrophysicist son now says:
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 05:18 PM
Nov 2014

Why oh why couldn't it have been given a proper Latin name like "Caelus?"

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
4. Just a note
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 06:40 PM
Nov 2014

Although the classic pronunciation lends itself to great laughs, almost all astronomers pronounce it "YUR-uh-niss".

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
9. I will leave the inevitable jokes to others.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 06:46 PM
Nov 2014

But in all seriousness cosmology and astrophysics are perhaps the most fascinating subjects I know.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
12. It's always full of surprises.. I've known this for a long time.. ever since I started
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 06:55 PM
Nov 2014

studying the Planets. And, I pronounce it "U RON US".. so as not to confuse it with another referral.



Uranus is a greenish-blue planet, twice as far from the Sun as its neighbor Saturn. Uranus wasn't discovered until 1781. Its discoveror, William Herschel, named it Georgium Sidus (the Georgian star) after the English king, George III. Later its name was changed to Uranus, after an ancient Greek sky god, since all the other planets had been named after Roman and Greek gods.

Size: 4 times larger than Earth in diameter Diameter: 32,193 miles (51,810 km)

Surface: Little is known Atmosphere: Hydrogen, helium, and methane

http://www.factmonster.com/science/astronomy/planet-uranus.html

aggiesal

(8,919 posts)
24. Talk about a setup?
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 09:03 PM
Nov 2014

This is way to easy.

Uranus might be full of surprises?

Really?

Can we even hold back?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
40. Since Uranus rotates on its side (axial tilt 98 degrees, compared to Earth's 23)
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 06:28 AM
Nov 2014

that would be my first place to look for why one hemisphere was behaving differently from the other at one point in its year (which is 84 of your Earth years). And if this all comes from data from Voyager 2, 3 decades ago, things might be quite different by now. 1986 was its southern hemisphere summer solstice.

Uranus has an axial tilt of 97.77°, so its axis of rotation is approximately parallel with the plane of the Solar System. This gives it seasonal changes completely unlike those of the other major planets. Other planets can be visualized to rotate like tilted spinning tops on the plane of the Solar System, whereas Uranus rotates more like a tilted rolling ball. Near the time of Uranian solstices, one pole faces the Sun continuously whereas the other one faces away. Only a narrow strip around the equator experiences a rapid day–night cycle, but with the Sun low over the horizon as in the Earth's polar regions. At the other side of Uranus's orbit the orientation of the poles towards the Sun is reversed. Each pole gets around 42 years of continuous sunlight, followed by 42 years of darkness.[49] Near the time of the equinoxes, the Sun faces the equator of Uranus giving a period of day–night cycles similar to those seen on most of the other planets. Uranus reached its most recent equinox on December 7, 2007.[50][51]
Northern hemisphere Year Southern hemisphere
Winter solstice 1902, 1986 Summer solstice
Vernal equinox 1923, 2007 Autumnal equinox
Summer solstice 1944, 2028 Winter solstice
Autumnal equinox 1965, 2049 Vernal equinox

One result of this axis orientation is that, averaged over the Uranian year, the polar regions of Uranus receive a greater energy input from the Sun than its equatorial regions. Nevertheless, Uranus is hotter at its equator than at its poles. The underlying mechanism that causes this is unknown. The reason for Uranus's unusual axial tilt is also not known with certainty, but the usual speculation is that during the formation of the Solar System, an Earth-sized protoplanet collided with Uranus, causing the skewed orientation.[52] Uranus's south pole was pointed almost directly at the Sun at the time of Voyager 2's flyby in 1986. The labeling of this pole as "south" uses the definition currently endorsed by the International Astronomical Union, namely that the north pole of a planet or satellite is the pole that points above the invariable plane of the Solar System, regardless of the direction the planet is spinning.[53][54] A different convention is sometimes used, in which a body's north and south poles are defined according to the right-hand rule in relation to the direction of rotation.[55] In terms of this latter coordinate system it was Uranus's north pole that was in sunlight in 1986.

The phys.org article that the Washington Post links to does mention this, but only in passing. Now, perhaps they're confident that Uranus is so far from the Sun that it can't have seasons, but if that is why 'the interior' is being given as the cause, I think they ought say so explicitly.
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