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Stuart G

(38,445 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:45 AM Nov 2014

AP Reporter Who Interviewd Cosby in 92 says 'He was intimidating and menacing' : Mediate

http://www.mediaite.com/online/reporter-who-interviewed-cosby-in-92-he-was-intimidating-and-menacing/

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If this is true, and I think it is, then this is the side of Cosby that could be the rapist. It is clear, if you read this. This person has a mean and vicious side to him, and I believe that person would be capable of doing what he has been accused of. That of course is not proof, but it shows a side of Cosby a lot of people do not know. Oh, and the interviewer was a woman...


Here is more from this reporter who interviewed Cosby in 92...(and this reporter has interviewed many so called difficult people as she states at the link)

"Bill Cosby didn’t rape me but what he did has always given me the creeps"
Dana Kennedy
19 Nov 2014 at 09:39 ET:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/bill-cosby-didnt-rape-me-but-what-he-did-has-always-given-me-the-creeps/
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AP Reporter Who Interviewd Cosby in 92 says 'He was intimidating and menacing' : Mediate (Original Post) Stuart G Nov 2014 OP
It's ironic, if you think of the Cosby Show, in which the husband and wife were mostly merrily Nov 2014 #1
I don't know what to think about all this adigal Nov 2014 #2
It's a lot of rhetoric at this point. FarPoint Nov 2014 #3
stop elehhhhna Nov 2014 #4
There is no evidence. FarPoint Nov 2014 #18
so everyone is lying? MFM008 Nov 2014 #27
Who knows?? FarPoint Nov 2014 #35
That is complete and utter bullshit. This isn't a court BreakfastClub Nov 2014 #45
good post and welcome to DU, BC. cali Nov 2014 #53
Thank you, thank you, thank you!:) eom freeplessinseattle Nov 2014 #61
welcome to DU, Breakfast Club Skittles Nov 2014 #65
Welcome to DU... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #68
You're so far off the mark. Gormy Cuss Nov 2014 #30
It so appears he may of gotten away with assaults... FarPoint Nov 2014 #32
How long after an assault should a person be ok to talk about it, to confront them? I am curious uppityperson Nov 2014 #36
The sooner the better... FarPoint Nov 2014 #37
Obviously. But that misses my point about your point. uppityperson Nov 2014 #42
Rape is something you never forget. Jamastiene Nov 2014 #44
I don't know is Cosby is an ass. I do know that sexual assault victims are hesistant to report Gormy Cuss Nov 2014 #40
I don't know is Cosby is an ass. I do know that sexual assault victims are hesistant to report Gormy Cuss Nov 2014 #41
LOL, now it is COSBY the RAPIST who will have to "live with it" Skittles Nov 2014 #48
His arrogance has been most unbecoming.... I never was fond of him. FarPoint Nov 2014 #55
when someone has the power to destroy careers Skittles Nov 2014 #62
I'll go with that to some extent. FarPoint Nov 2014 #63
must be hard to still believe in that freak Skittles Nov 2014 #64
I don't support Cosby... FarPoint Nov 2014 #66
Thank you. Jamastiene Nov 2014 #43
Rushing to judgment and ignoring the rules of evidence and due process is what the Internet does. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #6
oh dear god, you are on a political forum-have you ever actually read any other topics? freeplessinseattle Nov 2014 #11
Come on. DU has already tried and convicted a police officer in Ferguson, MO. nichomachus Nov 2014 #29
did you say that about Officer Wilson? Skittles Nov 2014 #49
actually, coming to a conclusion about something like this far, far pre-dates the internet, fred cali Nov 2014 #52
The court of public opinion then can not render a fair verdict, that would also be true then? Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #57
My take precisely n/t malaise Nov 2014 #21
The difference it can make is helping others stand up and say no, or report things like this when it uppityperson Nov 2014 #28
Do you know him? Brickbat Nov 2014 #15
Well then, that "evidence" clinches the guilt, bring out the noose........really? Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #5
the only person suggesting lynching is YOU. par for the course, freddy. cali Nov 2014 #54
You really need some remedial reading lessons......suggesting lynching? Cali, dear..... Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #56
That is creepy ... TBF Nov 2014 #7
WOW, so he guilty now because he is capable of being a scary black man? Heather MC Nov 2014 #8
Thank you. woolldog Nov 2014 #10
Did you even bother reading the link? freeplessinseattle Nov 2014 #12
Soooooo What Heather MC Nov 2014 #25
That is really bizarre. I can see why it made her uneasy. n/t nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #39
I don't ususally defend the media, but you answered your own question. Fawke Em Nov 2014 #13
Exactly. Cosby was America's Dad. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2014 #17
He would become a household name if it got this kind of attention. Heather MC Nov 2014 #26
A description all to common for black men in America. Chisox08 Nov 2014 #9
She Interviewed Dennis Rodman ProfessorGAC Nov 2014 #20
Precisely malaise Nov 2014 #22
??? Skittles Nov 2014 #47
In this case it's not a "all black men are creepy" thing. Arugula Latte Nov 2014 #23
the one thing that jumps out at me in alot of these stories....is the fact that they VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #14
It is not odd..If you really trust someone, then you do what they ask you to do, Stuart G Nov 2014 #16
sect. Powell didnt offer you pills to injest.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #58
I disagree. It is very odd. woolldog Nov 2014 #60
It's not "odd". ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2014 #51
i said specifically that i wasnt saying they were not VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #59
yeah right.... ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2014 #67
To be fair, Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #19
Huh? A bad interview 22 years ago means he's capable of rape? LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #24
I found Mr. Cosby's words threatening... Mike Nelson Nov 2014 #31
"threatening?" Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #50
I knew the reporter was going to be a woman before I clicked KamaAina Nov 2014 #33
Michelle Hurd came out today and said he touched her LittleBlue Nov 2014 #34
There are very serious and troubling allegations against Bill Cosby, KMOD Nov 2014 #38
he has always given me the creeps and I have never met him Skittles Nov 2014 #46

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. It's ironic, if you think of the Cosby Show, in which the husband and wife were mostly
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:51 AM
Nov 2014

on equal footing and, if one prevailed over the other in any way, it was usually the wife.

Never judge a book by the scriptwriters, I guess.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
2. I don't know what to think about all this
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 08:08 AM
Nov 2014

That's a lot of women to come up with the same lie, so I feel that they are telling the truth.

But I never, ever even glimpsed that side of him. I thought he was one of the few good guys. I'm very saddened by all of this.

FarPoint

(12,437 posts)
3. It's a lot of rhetoric at this point.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 08:18 AM
Nov 2014

Way too late to make a difference. It sure does seem easier to destroy an old man with essentially gossip verses evidence that could of been presented years ago....that was the time to confront..

FarPoint

(12,437 posts)
18. There is no evidence.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 01:32 PM
Nov 2014

The field of alleged victims failed to establish facts.. They chose to keep silent when it would of made a difference... Sorry for thoes that may of suffered but they chose poorly. To come out now, true or false, only revenge and/or possible greed appear to be the motive. No credibility...

FarPoint

(12,437 posts)
35. Who knows??
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:59 PM
Nov 2014

Maybe they are lying, maybe not.. Take the issue to Court not Entertainment Tonight or TMZ.

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
45. That is complete and utter bullshit. This isn't a court
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 02:04 AM
Nov 2014

of law, in case you didn't know, and innocent until proven guilty does not apply. People are free to make up their own minds. We do it ALL the time. It's part of human nature and there's nothing unfair about it. Have you seen Ferguson lately?

Over one dozen women have come forward to tell of being drugged and raped by this man, and all you got is "who knows??" Good Lord, I'll tell you who knows: Anyone with a fucking ounce of common sense knows this man is a deranged serial rapist who has gotten away with sexually assaulting women for over 40 years. That "who knows" crap isn't fooling anyone. We ALL know, except rape deniers who will deny rape no matter what the circumstance and no matter how many women come forward to tell what happened to them. But make no mistake: Everyone else knows damn well what this man is. 15 women from all walks of life, some in their 60's and 70's, many with families, and most with long, stable careers do NOT come out and say a man raped them unless he did. There is no motivation to lie about it. Zero. Use some common sense and basic knowledge of human nature, and I guarantee you that you WILL know, just like everyone else.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
65. welcome to DU, Breakfast Club
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:27 PM
Nov 2014

looks like we've got a bunch of Cosby-deniers on board - it has to be hard, wanting to believe in someone like that

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
30. You're so far off the mark.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:43 PM
Nov 2014

"Choosing" to remain silent is a survival tactic when the accused has more power than the accuser -- and Cosby had the wealth and fame to crush accusations at that time, especially if only one woman came forward with the accusation.

And no, coming out now is not only about "revenge and/or possible greed," it's about bringing the allegations to light now that there is the power of many accusers.

Cosby is the one who lacks credibility right now.

FarPoint

(12,437 posts)
32. It so appears he may of gotten away with assaults...
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:56 PM
Nov 2014

The problem lies with not reporting and confronting the accused timely. It's also wrong to publicly assault ones character 10 to 20 years after the alleged incident...that's vengeance not justice.

I image Cosby probably is an ass but the opportunity to confront was disregarded... Live with it.

uppityperson

(115,679 posts)
36. How long after an assault should a person be ok to talk about it, to confront them? I am curious
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:59 PM
Nov 2014

what time length you think is ok and not ok.

FarPoint

(12,437 posts)
37. The sooner the better...
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:06 PM
Nov 2014

Immediately works for me as evidence needs collected, documenting the scenario and interview all possible witnesses... Time errods facts, memory recall and credibility.

uppityperson

(115,679 posts)
42. Obviously. But that misses my point about your point.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 06:01 PM
Nov 2014

If they can't bring themselves to do it asap, how long should they have? I never went to the police after being raped because of various factors but the facts, my memory, is still very very very very very clear.

"It's also wrong to publicly assault ones character 10 to 20 years after the alleged incident...that's vengeance not justice. "

Now, 40 years later, I would happily tell people about it if others also spoke up about the asshole.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
44. Rape is something you never forget.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 12:26 AM
Nov 2014

I cannot stand those who blame the victims of rape and refuse to ever believe anyone who says they were raped. That seems to be a pattern with them. They never believe a woman was raped, no matter what.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
40. I don't know is Cosby is an ass. I do know that sexual assault victims are hesistant to report
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:35 PM
Nov 2014

because they are in turn accused of exaggeration, misinterpretation, and sometime flat out lying. When the alleged assaulter has money, fame, or other stature in the community it's a daunting challenge to even get charges filed.

Jerry Sandusky probably agrees with you though. Poor thing was accused so long after the fact and all.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
41. I don't know is Cosby is an ass. I do know that sexual assault victims are hesistant to report
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:38 PM
Nov 2014

because they are in turn accused of exaggeration, misinterpretation, and sometime flat out lying. When the alleged assaulter has money, fame, or other stature in the community it's a daunting challenge to even get charges filed.

Jerry Sandusky probably agrees with you though. Poor thing was accused so long after the fact and all.

FarPoint

(12,437 posts)
55. His arrogance has been most unbecoming.... I never was fond of him.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 07:39 AM
Nov 2014

I sense the Hollywood Wall of Silence kept the alleged victims quite. Power and money makes a strong force. Recognizing this, I empathize with any true victims if this is the case.

The only way to crack this wall is to expose the dysfunction in a timely, efficient fashion through criminal charges. I just can't sink my nails into taking a belated stand against Cosby regardless of my disgust for what I sense is true. My gut sense is not confirmation but only a tool...

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
62. when someone has the power to destroy careers
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:30 PM
Nov 2014

yes, that keeps them quiet

f*** Cosby - the destruction of his carefully crafted family man image is worse punishment for him than jail time, and this WILL be his legacy

FarPoint

(12,437 posts)
63. I'll go with that to some extent.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:21 PM
Nov 2014

I still prefer facts and evidence as it would be an equal crime if the claims were malicious.

FarPoint

(12,437 posts)
66. I don't support Cosby...
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:30 PM
Nov 2014

Just desire a witness or two, evidence etc to support an old claim...I want the same for anyone...So far, we lack such supporting data...Hopefully, a civil case will be filed if a criminal case is moot at this phase.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
43. Thank you.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 12:23 AM
Nov 2014

I take it a lot of people have no idea what it is like to be raped, or what it is like to try to get any justice if you are raped.

freeplessinseattle

(3,508 posts)
11. oh dear god, you are on a political forum-have you ever actually read any other topics?
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:53 AM
Nov 2014

If this was a Republican Senator gotta wonder if you'd be singing a different tune.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
52. actually, coming to a conclusion about something like this far, far pre-dates the internet, fred
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:02 AM
Nov 2014

and the court of public opinion is not bound by rules of evidence.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
57. The court of public opinion then can not render a fair verdict, that would also be true then?
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 08:25 AM
Nov 2014

Thank the heavens the non evidence lovers are not in charge, the legally trained are, what next, Cali dear, scientists in charge of ebola?

uppityperson

(115,679 posts)
28. The difference it can make is helping others stand up and say no, or report things like this when it
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:15 PM
Nov 2014

happens to them. I never reported my rape, but talk about it now in the hopes that others who experience the same will be able to speak out, get the support they need.

It is never too late and can be helpful.

TBF

(32,090 posts)
7. That is creepy ...
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:12 AM
Nov 2014

when we only see the public side of people we have no idea what is going on behind the scenes.

I have to say I'm not thrilled with this public lynching of a beloved actor, but if the women are telling the truth (and sadly hearing it from so many quarters does give validity to the stories) then perhaps there is a way for them to bring a case. I dunno, sad all around.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
8. WOW, so he guilty now because he is capable of being a scary black man?
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:27 AM
Nov 2014

Last edited Fri Nov 21, 2014, 03:57 PM - Edit history (1)

Whatever

Where's the non-stop media outrage for the 7th Heaven Father who is one tape admitting to his crimes?

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
10. Thank you.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:41 AM
Nov 2014

This smacks of piling on.

Cosby has a mean and vicious side? Everyone does. Everyone.

We don't need to hear from every person he's been "mean" to or looked sideways at over the course of his life as if that proves anything.

freeplessinseattle

(3,508 posts)
12. Did you even bother reading the link?
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:58 AM
Nov 2014

Is this not a little odd?

[He said] "Tell me what you want to ask and we’ll see how it goes. If it doesn’t go well, I’ll give you a piece of fruit. I’ll give you an apple or pear and you can be on your way.”

She writes that Cosby came off as “very scary,” but then something happened that really creeped her out:

Less than a week after the story was published, I received a package at AP’s world headquarters, which was then at 50 Rockefeller Plaza. This was years before 9-11 so of course I opened it without trepidation.
Inside was a sheet of paper with three typed words: “Here’s your apple.” The signature in black ink read “Bill Cosby.” And wrapped in a paper towel was indeed an apple, dried and withered."

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
13. I don't ususally defend the media, but you answered your own question.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 10:01 AM
Nov 2014

You called him the, "7th Heave Father" instead of whatever his real name is.

He's not nearly as popular and well known as Bill Cosby.

That's why the media outrage is at peak.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
17. Exactly. Cosby was America's Dad.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 01:10 PM
Nov 2014

Those of us in middle age grew up with him - Fat Albert cartoons, his stand up act on LP, the iconic family TV show of the 80s, not to mention that he was the first black actor to have a lead role in a TV drama (I Spy) back in the 60s.

Practically everyone in this country knows who Bill Cosby is. I'd bet barely 10% can even name 'that guy who was in that one show'.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
26. He would become a household name if it got this kind of attention.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:03 PM
Nov 2014

I see your point, but it's still rather lopsided.
Now everyone that Bill ever made angry is coming out with their sob story

Chisox08

(1,898 posts)
9. A description all to common for black men in America.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:39 AM
Nov 2014

The simple act of walking down the street as a black man is considered menacing and intimidating to some people.

ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
20. She Interviewed Dennis Rodman
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 01:55 PM
Nov 2014

And, does not mention that about him. So, in this case it appears to be directed at the person not the color of the person.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
47. ???
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:08 AM
Nov 2014

you think he's just a stellar guy who has the misfortune of a bunch of hysterical gals lying about him? Or what?

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
23. In this case it's not a "all black men are creepy" thing.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 02:05 PM
Nov 2014

She has interviewed many celebrities of all colors, and she gives specific reasons why Cosby stands out as the one who was weird and menacing toward her.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
14. the one thing that jumps out at me in alot of these stories....is the fact that they
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 10:26 AM
Nov 2014

willingly took a drug from him without questioning what it was....that to me just seems odd.

Stuart G

(38,445 posts)
16. It is not odd..If you really trust someone, then you do what they ask you to do,
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 12:43 PM
Nov 2014

Simply put, these people trusted, without question, Bill Cosby. We have people we trust. We have people we do not trust. It is simple and easy to understand. Cosby knew that these women trusted him. That is why they took the pills. It isn't rocket science, it is trust. You might ask, " Why did someone trust Bill Cosby?" That goes to the heart of the story. You just trust. We trust leaders and those we look up to. Simple, easy to understand. We think, "He/she couldn't lie, or couldn't hurt me, because he/she/ is who he/she is." Your defenses are down. We think that he/she couldn't be telling a lie.

On exactly the same idea, think about this. Colin Powel was probably the most trusted person in the Bush administration. So he goes before the UN representing our country. I did not think he was a liar because he is the one person I trusted more than Bush or Cheney or any of them. So, it turns out he was a liar, and helped to kill and maim hundreds of thousands of people. Furthermore, he helped to destabilize an area that is still very dangerous, as you read these words..so do you get the idea?

Yes, I trusted Sec of State Powel, and he lied. He lied big time, and I will never trust him again.... It doesn't seem the same, but it is. Peoples defenses are down when they truly trust someone for whatever reasons.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
60. I disagree. It is very odd.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 10:19 AM
Nov 2014

No one just takes pills that someone gives them without knowing what it is. I wouldn't take pills my own mother gives me without knowing exactly what they are.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
51. It's not "odd".
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:00 AM
Nov 2014

He sought out woman who were broken and had dependency issues, some right out of rehab. But good job making this about the victim's decision and not about his decision to rape.


Some of the shit I read on this message board I swear I'm reading FreeRepublic.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
59. i said specifically that i wasnt saying they were not
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 10:12 AM
Nov 2014

Raped... .I am weighing all evidence.....that is just one element of this story..

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
19. To be fair,
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 01:50 PM
Nov 2014
"Cosby didn't rape or assault me, but he was cold and standoff-ish on the one day I professionally met him" doesn't hold a hell of a lot of water...Without all these accusers coming out of the woodwork, no one would even pay attention to her sensationalized non-story, which reads like sour grapes at best and shameless media whoring at the worst...

And it has to be said that Kennedy's original profile is hacktastic shit far below AP standards of the day...I don't know what kind of questions she had planned, or if they just hit it off on the wrong foot, but her lede was awful, the writing jumps around without focus (I can't even tell what her story is supposed to specifically be about), she fails to get Cosby to open up, and she buries the semi-interesting stuff at the bottom (which indicates it might not have even been in her original draft, and her editor made her insert it)...Yes, the fruit was a dick move on Cosby's part, but she rightly deserved that dead apple in the mail back in '92 and may arguably deserve another one today...

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
50. "threatening?"
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:13 AM
Nov 2014

Looked more to me like Cosby didn't suffer fools gladly, and quickly became frustrated taking time out of his schedule for an interviewer who was either way out of her depth, or for whatever reason didn't bring her 'A' game, and he embarrassed her for her lack of professionalism (which she evidently still carries a grudge for)...Granted, none of us were there so we don't know the real context of their conversations; but as I said before, nobody cares that Cosby was once rude to a reporter in any other circumstance other than the multiplying rape allegations...

Kennedy's case would be a little stronger if Cosby had a universal reputation for treating all reporters in that manner, and if her 1992 piece wasn't so shockingly slanted...I guess now is as good a time as any to cash in all the grudges anyone's ever had against him...

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
34. Michelle Hurd came out today and said he touched her
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 04:59 PM
Nov 2014

Felt her up as part of an acting exercise. She says she dodged the bullet when she refused to go to his house. He said it was to take a shower and look at her hair.

The guy is a fucking monster.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
38. There are very serious and troubling allegations against Bill Cosby,
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:13 PM
Nov 2014

and Dana Kennedy is worried about him being condescending in an interview over 20 years ago, and sending her a bad apple?

I don't get the point of her coming forward now, unless it's piling on, or looking for her own 15 minutes of fame.

Sorry Dana, but you're taking away from the real story.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
46. he has always given me the creeps and I have never met him
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:01 AM
Nov 2014

he strikes me as narcissist and an absolute phony

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