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We as a society give guns to our Police. (Original Post) Agschmid Nov 2014 OP
Change it to what? JohLast Nov 2014 #1
Change it to England. JaneyVee Nov 2014 #2
Yes that was the gist. Agschmid Nov 2014 #6
Get a time machine. Action_Patrol Nov 2014 #8
I don't buy that. LOCAL law enfircement Volaris Nov 2014 #19
Pepper spray? Action_Patrol Nov 2014 #20
Change it so they don't have them. Agschmid Nov 2014 #7
Agschmid please Taurusny22 Nov 2014 #15
I honestly would not be a cop. Agschmid Nov 2014 #17
Yes. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #3
First people need to vote. Agschmid Nov 2014 #5
We've been voting for more than 200 years. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #9
Great post. bigwillq Nov 2014 #10
We *all* need to vote. Agschmid Nov 2014 #12
We need direct democracy. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #13
Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #4
Ban All Guns!!! PowerToThePeople Nov 2014 #11
What is your plan to accomplish such a lofty goal? Jenoch Nov 2014 #14
This oughta be good derby378 Nov 2014 #16
461 American's Killed Last Year otohara Nov 2014 #18

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
8. Get a time machine.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:08 PM
Nov 2014

It's far too late for that In this country.

You can't very well have a populace armed to the teeth and law enforcement with sticks.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
19. I don't buy that. LOCAL law enfircement
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:17 AM
Nov 2014

Are nearly batman WITHOUT the firearms. Require them to be fire-armed, but keep that shit in the car. Anything that requires local law enforcement to use MORE than riot shotguns with pepperspray rounds requires a SWAT Team ANYWAY.

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
20. Pepper spray?
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:23 AM
Nov 2014

Pepper spray doesn't work on everyone.
They are supposed to respond to a possible crime unarmed and run to a car if they need a gun? That doesn't make a lot of sense.

We live In a country where the Supreme Court has determined that people have a right to carry guns. You can't very well take that same right away from the person you expect to show up to enforce law.

Hell, we have open carry idiots all over the place.

 

Taurusny22

(24 posts)
15. Agschmid please
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:32 PM
Nov 2014

Would you honestly go on patrol without a gun-knowing how many illegal guns are out there. Would you walk a foot post in East New York or the Bronx?

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
17. I honestly would not be a cop.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:33 PM
Nov 2014

In my opinion there should be no guns, but at this point it seems to be a moot point here in America.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. Yes.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:00 PM
Nov 2014

So how do we do it? Referendums at the state level to place restrictions on police armaments and use of force?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
9. We've been voting for more than 200 years.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:22 PM
Nov 2014

When does voting actually start to work?

People are giving up on voting because it doesn't actually deliver.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
12. We *all* need to vote.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:23 PM
Nov 2014

We all need to understand how our civic responsibility can help shape events like this.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
13. We need direct democracy.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:26 PM
Nov 2014

We need changes coming as a result of referenda from the citizens, for the citizens.

Our elected 'representatives' do not represent us.

Response to Agschmid (Original post)

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
18. 461 American's Killed Last Year
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:35 PM
Nov 2014

holy fucking shit. That's not counting the ones they don't consider felons - all the accidentals are left out, forgotten.

More than the last two decades in one year.

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