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front view of Darren Wilson's face, from Reuters live blog (Original Post) steve2470 Nov 2014 OP
Such damage!!! bravenak Nov 2014 #1
looks pretty undamaged to me nt steve2470 Nov 2014 #2
Is this a sick joke? liberalmuse Nov 2014 #3
You mean the face of a stone cold murderer? kimbutgar Nov 2014 #4
Exactly. Nothing but. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #53
he was hit with the ugly stick at birth olddots Nov 2014 #5
I can't believe he's only in his 20's he looks at least 3times that old! nt Raine Nov 2014 #57
that bruise on his face was clearly not from a fist.....that is where the door hit him as he VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #6
What mark on his face? southerncrone Nov 2014 #7
there are other pictures....there is a vague mark with very distinctive lines of demarcation... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #10
How did his right cheek get hit? Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #20
That really doesn't make any sense at all justiceischeap Nov 2014 #59
Right....that face wasn't punched... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #61
the car door... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #60
The right side of his lip looks a little busted up. Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #12
I thought that was a cold sore! southerncrone Nov 2014 #14
Probably had one of his fellow officers hit him... backscatter712 Nov 2014 #8
This does not look like someone who was getting beaten so badly that they had to shoot logosoco Nov 2014 #9
Well, at least that RW myth of the "broken eye socket" is completely debunked Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #11
More pics MrScorpio Nov 2014 #13
Hardly justifies 6 or more gunshots.... southerncrone Nov 2014 #15
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Because white cops are always justified to shoot unarmed black men to you, I'm sure MrScorpio Nov 2014 #17
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No, no… You're justifying the shooting and killing of unarmed black men by cops MrScorpio Nov 2014 #21
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Of course that why YOU would shoot him as well MrScorpio Nov 2014 #26
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You do know that cops don't kill white people to the same extent MrScorpio Nov 2014 #34
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Oh, how convenient... MrScorpio Nov 2014 #38
You are repeating the well rehearsed testimony verbatim. Darb Nov 2014 #28
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Don't be obtuse, stick to carrying water, it suits you better. Darb Nov 2014 #43
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You don't know the color of shit. Darb Nov 2014 #52
You would have shot him 12 times? Speaking of making shit up, why was there no R B Garr Nov 2014 #31
There is a difference between defense & overkill. southerncrone Nov 2014 #18
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Cops kill unarmed black men all of the time... MrScorpio Nov 2014 #25
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You're obviously justifying the killing of black men, by standing behind a racist system MrScorpio Nov 2014 #30
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So tell me, did you send some money to the Darren Wilson defense fund MrScorpio Nov 2014 #40
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Now you have some cover in your support of Darren Wilson MrScorpio Nov 2014 #50
Ha! What a crock. Even the DA tonight said social media influenced this incident R B Garr Nov 2014 #56
Stop spewing contrived bullshit. Darb Nov 2014 #47
You seem to be certain Brown "physically assaulted" the officer. bluesbassman Nov 2014 #55
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Frankly, I think that the report is full of lies MrScorpio Nov 2014 #39
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But there is no video of that. So, you're just making stuff up now MrScorpio Nov 2014 #44
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Well, it's obvious that black lives don't matter to YOU... MrScorpio Nov 2014 #48
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No, I do not support the shooting of cops, I never have MrScorpio Nov 2014 #54
I think that was a thread record for number of deleted posts... freshwest Nov 2014 #58
Yes, he is very happy, giddy even. Darb Nov 2014 #49
What happened? Did he screw up putting on a monocle for a Halloween party? Droning Predator Nov 2014 #23
Looks different with the hood on workinclasszero Nov 2014 #36
he's not required to have any injuries at all TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #62
Caption: This is the face of a murderous, racist dickbag. Aristus Nov 2014 #63
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
6. that bruise on his face was clearly not from a fist.....that is where the door hit him as he
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:40 AM
Nov 2014

was stepping out of the car as the door was ajar...the door which was being opened on the young man and instead bounced back and hit hit in the jaw. I can only imagine this pissed him off so he snatched the young man into the car reaching for his gun to threaten him....as the gun comes out...Micheal's reaction is to reach for the gun to deflect it...which is when he gets shot in the thumb and bleeds inside the car....you know the rest...but that mark on his face is much too defined to be a mark from a scuffle with a fist.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
10. there are other pictures....there is a vague mark with very distinctive lines of demarcation...
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:48 AM
Nov 2014

along his jawline...that does not look like a mark you get from a fight. it has a very geometrical oval
shape.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
59. That really doesn't make any sense at all
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 07:13 AM
Nov 2014

I'm trying to imagine the fight inside the SUV where Brown unloads a punch to the right side of Wilsons face and I just can't manage it.

The only way I can see it happening is if Wilson is on his knees facing the back of the SUV.

Alittleliberal

(528 posts)
12. The right side of his lip looks a little busted up.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:08 AM
Nov 2014

No way a swinging fist from a big guy does that little damage though. I agree with the door hypothesis.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
9. This does not look like someone who was getting beaten so badly that they had to shoot
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:46 AM
Nov 2014

someone.

I have read some of the text of the GJ. It is pitiful. If I saw this in a book or a movie I would not believe it. I do not understand how the jurors did.

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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
21. No, no… You're justifying the shooting and killing of unarmed black men by cops
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:30 AM
Nov 2014

Why are you running away for that? You've just said that YOU would do the same.

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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
34. You do know that cops don't kill white people to the same extent
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:47 AM
Nov 2014

Even when those white people are armed, right?

What's the difference between unarmed black people and armed white people to the police?

Response to MrScorpio (Reply #34)

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
38. Oh, how convenient...
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:50 AM
Nov 2014

Because now you've found a case where even you feel that you would be justified in shooting and killing and unarmed black man.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
28. You are repeating the well rehearsed testimony verbatim.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:43 AM
Nov 2014

Others saw it differently. You do not know what happened that day. Your overconfidence tends toward something sinister, like predisposition.

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Darb

(2,807 posts)
43. Don't be obtuse, stick to carrying water, it suits you better.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:55 AM
Nov 2014

You chose to believe the well rehearsed concoction of the guy that had the most to lose. Though not as much as Brown, who was shot dead.

It is so contrived it is comical. Again and again, "he tried to take my weapon", "he reached for his belt", what a crock of shit. This whole thing is the same as it ever was, a bully cop pushing a situation to its worst end. And again, the waterboys come a running, providing cover.

I have contempt for your transparent, shallow nature.

Back to the well, hurry along.

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Darb

(2,807 posts)
52. You don't know the color of shit.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 03:02 AM
Nov 2014

Nice projection. You decided immediately the n****r was asking for it, and now you are here making an absolute ass out of yourself. But that is all right with you, you don't see it that way now do you?

Sad, pathetic little waterboy. How's Free Republic doing?

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
31. You would have shot him 12 times? Speaking of making shit up, why was there no
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:45 AM
Nov 2014

police report? How convenient that no one had to tie events back to any written police statements. The DA just cherry picked whatever fits their agenda.

southerncrone

(5,506 posts)
18. There is a difference between defense & overkill.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:28 AM
Nov 2014

Especially when you have a gun & the other person is unarmed.

And I'm glad you are not in my neighborhood if you condone this.

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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
25. Cops kill unarmed black men all of the time...
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:35 AM
Nov 2014

So what's so dangerous about Brown that made Wilson shoot? Was it his unarmed blackness?

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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
30. You're obviously justifying the killing of black men, by standing behind a racist system
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:44 AM
Nov 2014



We see this all the time, from the killing of Trayvon Martin to Michael Brown…

Their UNARMED blackness created fear in white minds.

Response to MrScorpio (Reply #30)

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
40. So tell me, did you send some money to the Darren Wilson defense fund
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:52 AM
Nov 2014

Sounds like you're a supporter

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R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
56. Ha! What a crock. Even the DA tonight said social media influenced this incident
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 03:17 AM
Nov 2014

from the beginning. He sounded like the whole investigation was only geared to blowing up any incriminating social media talking points and getting his own talking points out instead, along with the final say.

That's probably why there was no police report of the incident the night it happened. It was fill-in-the-blanks police reporting to stay ahead of "social media."

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
47. Stop spewing contrived bullshit.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:58 AM
Nov 2014

Brown didn't assault anyone. You are easily compromised because of character flaws.

bluesbassman

(19,374 posts)
55. You seem to be certain Brown "physically assaulted" the officer.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 03:06 AM
Nov 2014

At what point was that, before or after Wilson grabbed him through the window of the SUV? Your defense/justification hinges on this fact and I'm curious to know how you know this to be true that Brown initiated the physical escalation of this encounter.

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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
44. But there is no video of that. So, you're just making stuff up now
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:56 AM
Nov 2014

Admit it… You're happy that Wilson has been cleared by a racist system for shooting an unarmed black man.

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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
54. No, I do not support the shooting of cops, I never have
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 03:05 AM
Nov 2014

I'm against police misconduct, such as when cops go out of their way to kill unarmed people.

Not to mention the so-called system of "criminal justice" that provides cover for that misconduct.

Instead, you're standing behind the system when the police can kill people unabatedly.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
49. Yes, he is very happy, giddy even.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:59 AM
Nov 2014

He is lacking in a number of things that would make him fit in around here.

 

Droning Predator

(82 posts)
23. What happened? Did he screw up putting on a monocle for a Halloween party?
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:32 AM
Nov 2014

After all, monocles are a symbol of the moneyed elite whom he serves!

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
62. he's not required to have any injuries at all
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:09 PM
Nov 2014

And unless people are just dense he does have swelling in the area of his lower lip and an abrasion on the lower lip. Seeing as I don't know what his face normally looks like, I have no idea if there is other swelling. From one not all that clear photo of him in his uniform (the one that was always used to identify him) I seem to recall that his face generally seemed thinner.

Why is anyone surprised? It was said he had some facial swelling and that was basically it.

But again, he's not required to have ANY injuries. Where in the world did anyone ever get the idea that he did? Since when does a cop have to be struck severely enough to show very obvious injuries before they're allowed to shoot? Anyone recall that most police shooting that were perfectly legitimate even by this crowd's standards aren't ever even TOUCHED by the person that was shot? That they weren't even in arm's length proximity? Yet people are complaining that he's not injured enough? Good grief.

I'm finding the eyewitness interviews a hell of a lot more interesting, but I can see why they're being avoided. Read through the first 6 so far (I think nos. 10, 12, 14, 16 can't remember the others off the top of my head because they aren't in chronological order, and I've been going through them in the order they appear on the page. So far, every one of them say Brown did not have his hands up, and that he was moving toward Wilson with some saying slowly all the way up to charging. The ones that saw the altercation in the car describe Brown as being the one moving one or more of his arms in a manner appearing to be hitting. One who believed the last volley of shots wasn't justified said that Wilson continually shouted for Brown to stop and that before the last volley he and others were shouting at Brown to stop themselves knowing that if he didn't he'd' be likely killed. Interesting that so far they all felt as though they were the only person that was watching. Given what they said about where they were while watching none of them other than one guy said they were outside but at a window, on a balcony or porch, at an open door, etc.

Except for one of these witnesses who didn't see Johnson until he came back after Brown was dead all of them said that Johnson ran at the moment of the shot inside the car, and jumped into the passenger side of a white Monte Carlo that immediately sped off. The witness that believed that the last volley of shots wasn't justified and who went on at some length that he knew Brown personally and that he was the only youth that spoke respectfully to him said that Johnson ran to the white Monte Carlo, and though he and his family member aren't 100% sure they believe that Johnson got into that car that then sped away. He also says as some other said that Johnson was nowhere near the police car during the altercation between Brown and Wilson but by a tree some distance away. The witness being interviewed was at vantage point much closer and couldn't tell what exactly was happening inside the car other than there was a physical altercation of some kind. All these witness save the one that didn't recall Johnson at all other than the person that was walking with Brown before all that took place say that Johnson was not anywhere near the cop car during the altercation, and when the shot inside the car was fired he took off running and got into the white Monte carlo that sped away. Johnson only found out about Brown being shot from others and likely why he came back to the scene.

So, according to these witnesses, Johnson was no where near the cop car during the altercation and was further away than some of these witnesses who were not able to tell what exactly was happening inside the car, and that when the shot inside the car was fired Johnson ran off, got into a white Monte Carlo that was stopped (not parked) in the street and sped away so he never saw what happened to Brown after the shot inside the car.

There are at least 62 witnesses that I've seen while scrolling through to find out how many though many of them are not eyewitnesses but forensic and other people.

Witness #62 is also the medical person that examined Wilson concerning his injuries. This person was told that he was punched twice in the right jaw and that it was sore, and he had x-rays to determine whether or not it was broken (apparently it wasn't, but I've not read through that far and it was never said that it was).

Go on and yuck it up about his minor injuries that we always knew were minor while entirely ignoring the fact that he's not required to have ANY injuries nor even be touched in any way and still be justified in the shooting. Shall we start a list of all the justified shootings by police or anyone else that have never been so much as touched by a person that it still a legitimate threat?

Read the eyewitness interview of witness #14 both parts. This is the guy that knew Brown and said he was the only youth that spoke to him respectfully and believed the last volley of shots wasn't justified. It's everything else that he says that's eye opening.

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