What the news won't show...

[MrScorpio]

[delrem]

1. I don't understand that.

Are you saying that the issues regarding the police killing of yet another unarmed youth, in Ferguson, is all about the crips and blood gangs being stand up law abiding citizens?

Really?

[MrScorpio]

2. It's all about juxtaposition and context:

You may no know this, but these gangs were first created to PROTECT their own communities and only because the police refused to protect black communities. They are the result of injustice.

Instead, once again, tonight we see what the police are all about:



Notice that these men protecting that business are doing so unarmed and with their bare skin shown.

[delrem]

4. I do not believe that the crips and bloods were first planned to protect their communities.

I'm amazed at the assertion.

[rudolph the red]

5. Their 1st plan is to enslave their community to drugs and then intimidate

store owners to leave, they are a group of people that kill indiscriminately. I'm not impressed by their Ferguson photo.

[delrem]

7. The bloods and crips are gangs, that's all.

You suppose that such gangs have a masterplan. They don't.

eta: and most of all, it is just plain idiocy for anyone to suggest that issues w.r.t. the blood and crips gangs are somehow pertinent to what is now happening in Ferguson. This guy, MrScorpio, had this photo to show. All the rest is racist innuendo, IMO.

[rudolph the red]

10. No fucking shit

[6000eliot]

23. Well, they had a little help from the CIA and the Reagan Administration.

[MrScorpio]

9. Why is it so difficult to understand...

That gangs grew out out of a need for self protection?

The history of the LA street gangs that came after the Watts Street Riots is well known.

[Recursion]

16. That's how nearly all street gangs start

Including the Italian and Irish mobs: protection (and public services) for people who aren't getting either from the government.

[MrScorpio]

20. Exactly

It's not like it's a secret.

[delrem]

22. Bullshit. nt

[malaise]

26. But then you clearly read on the subject

+1,000

[sunnystarr]

24. Some of us did get it ...

Thanks for posting it. Also in reference to other comment below .. the Bloods formed compete against the influence of the Crips. But you're right about the Crips.

[MrScorpio]

25. This is what injustice creates

It does none of us any good when society when it's ignored… Or even supported by authority.

[snooper2]

40. you should really know your history better than that, Raymond Lee Washington

"only thing we really understood was the pigs"

Here is a good documentary with interviews from people who were actually there-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Washington

Raymond Lee Washington (August 14, 1953 – August 9, 1979) was the original founder[1] of the South Central Los Angeles street gang the Crips.

Washington is believed to have initially formed the Baby Avenues street gang, which became the Avenue Cribs before the name evolved into the Crips, because he wanted to form a gang that could protect their territory in South Central and prevent criminal and more violent gangs outside the territory.

He disliked firearms and knives, and believed that fist fighting and hand-to-hand combat was the most effective way to resolve differences. By the time of his death, however, his influence on the gang had diminished and firearms had become widely used. Washington was murdered in South Central Los Angeles on August 9, 1979, and the murder has remained unsolved.

[rudolph the red]

3. A random picture and a twitter post=them crips and bloods are great guys!

Ignore the thousands that have died in their idiotic war.

[delrem]

6. It is clear to me

that MrScorpio is saying that if we stand with the people of Ferguson against a racist police force that kills their children with impunity, then we must stand with the crips and blood gangs, who in MrScorpio's view exemplify the moral standing of that community.

I think MrScorpio's message is sick.

[rudolph the red]

8. Whatever

I just didn't agree with his basic premise.

[delrem]

12. yes, as you say. after that, whatever.

[Scuba]

28. Two man circle jerk. Hope you're enjoying it.

[delrem]

43. I can guarantee that

if CNN, FOX, ABC, etc., used this opportunity to focus on stories like the OPs about how the crips and blood gangs provide community leadership and are doing neighborhood watch service, you would not be so pleased with the wisdom of telling them to go for it.

[MrScorpio]

11. It's clear that you're wrong

Only because, if it wasn't for the racist police, there would be no need for street gangs, like the Crips and Bloods to create themselves.

If there always justice in the Black community, do you think that they would exist?

[delrem]

13. oh, for the love of....

You are *really* saying that the situation in Ferguson is a justification of gang rule, by the blood and crips?

Really?

Are you out of your ever lovin' mind????

[MrScorpio]

14. We're talking about two different things here.

That pic in the OP was taken in Los Angeles and the gang members are acting in response to events THERE.

In Ferguson, it's been clear that the happenings there were in response to the injustice imposed by the gang in blue, The Ferguson PD.

[delrem]

17. No we're not.

You define the opposition to the atrocity that happened in Ferguson as being something that is identical with and justifies the blood and crip gangs. I don't.

I say that if you walk down the street of Ferguson today, you won't find *anyone* who agrees with your despicable opinion, that the opposition to that atrocity accords with acceptance of the blood and crips as community leaders.

I fucking despise this conversation. I fucking despise it. I will remember you, as a person who thinks like that.

[MrScorpio]

19. Lookie here, I never mentioned Ferguson in the OP

And the picture itself creates an ironic image, in which you have unarmed gang members in LA protecting a business. Especially, as juxtaposed against the armed thugs wearing FPD uniforms in Missouri. It's also an opportunity to notice their origins, the Crips and Bloods, as organizations that grew out of the conditions of poverty and racial injustice in the black community.

But if you don't wan't to recognize any of that, so be it.

It's also interesting to not that the protests in Ferguson are also in response to racial injustice and the unwillingness of the FPD to properly do their jobs in THAT particular community.

[delrem]

21. I think not. nt

[11 Bravo]

41. Agreed, clearly you do not.

[gollygee]

32. What?

No. He's saying that the media is talking about rioting but that it isn't a fair picture - even rival gangs are working together to defend stores from looting. We aren't seeing this kind of thing on TV.

[TransitJohn]

30. There's at least 3 logical fallacies in your post

Pretty impressive for two sentences. Big time fail.

[aspirant]

31. Are Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria idiotic wars? Do we have a D.C. gang?

[Cha]

18. I get it. mahalo MrScorpio. You're right the news won't show that.. which is the Point of the OP.

[BanzaiBonnie]

27. Thank you for reminding us of what history holds...

History holds the keys that may provide answers if only we are willing to face the mistakes (and I hesitate to use that word) of the past.


The system was built to protect those who are strong from those in a weaker position. I'm tired of the lies we were told in school.


We need to make it right. What do we need to do now?

[aspirant]

33. Our American history

Did the British consider our colonists a GANG of thugs, I guess it depends on which side of the equation you're standing

[azmom]

34. My daughter asked her teacher if

The British textbook said the same as ours and the teacher said, of course, this is how things really happened.

[Scuba]

29. Thanks for the post, very educational.

I knew about the gangs forming for protection, but it's nice to see a couple of racist pricks exposed too.

[KingCharlemagne]

35. Choice is simple: stand with the Crips and Bloods or stand with the

Missouri death squads that operate under color of the law.

I know which 'gang' I'm siding with and it ain't the police death squads.

[Nye Bevan]

36. They won't get their weekly protection money payments from a burned out store.

So they are acting in their own economic interests. Can't say it makes me all warm and fuzzy, however.

[aspirant]

37. Protection money?

Didn't I read something about the ridiculously high amount of tickets and fines that were issued to Ferguson residents? Maybe all that money went to buy tanks and fighter jets.

[Nye Bevan]

38. That's not Ferguson (nt)

[aspirant]

39. What the tickets and fines or the tanks?

[sarisataka]

42. I despise gangs

But I get the point