No need for the National Guard here:

[MrScorpio]

Nope… No need at all.

[Recursion]

1. Well, at Keene (for one) there was tear gas and rubber bullets

Dozens of arrests, multiple beatings, etc.

[Cha]

2. Fucking football

[freshwest]

3. You nailed it, Mr. Scorpio. I want this on the Greatest Page or Trending. K & R.

[ZombieHorde]

4. Fantastic OP.

Thanks for posting this.

[Raine]

5. THANKS ... sure shows a double standard! nt

[mountain grammy]

6. K&R for the hypocrisy that is America

[Control-Z]

7. This is it. Exactly.

I'm so disgusted.

Just some white folk blowing off a little steam after a very important, hard lost/won, sporting event.

But these black thugs, they are being thugs, because, you know, that's what they are. Thugs .

Wish I didn't need this but it's best I make myself clear.

[HappyMe]

8. k&r

[kaiden]

9. So very true.

Sigh.

[Scuba]

10. K&R for another great post from MrScorpio!

[tenderfoot]

11. Not one DU pearl clutcher to be seen in this thread....

eom

[noiretextatique]

13. +1000

The pro-murderer crowd is silent, thankfully. It is probably too difficult for them to not completely uncloak.

[alcibiades_mystery]

12. Yup

It wasn't a metaphor.

[noiretextatique]

14. youthful indescretions

Like the DUI bush got in his 40's.

[LynneSin]

15. It's just like these photos from Katrina:

White people find things
Black people looted them

[Nye Bevan]

16. To be fair, some of those could have been "agents provocateurs" (nt)

[heaven05]

23. to be willfully

deflective about the point and the hypocrisy here, you mean.

[johnnyreb]

17. K&R

[Odin2005]

18. I love Chris Kluwe!

[Pacifist Patriot]

19. Google Image Search ... minnesota hockey riot

https://www.google.com/search?q=hockey+riot&biw=1280&bih=800&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=_9J0VKrQH8OngwTnqYTwCg&ved=0CDAQsAQ#tbm=isch&q=minnesota+hockey+riot

[toddwv]

20. WVU Beat Baylor

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[veness]

21. K & R ! (Thanks for this!) n/t

[TxVietVet]

22. k & r

[GummyBearz]

24. Dumb OP

So you think its a good use of resources to deploy the national guard to every college campus after a college football game? As well as to every city with a sports team, after every sporting event? And maybe to pumpkin patches around the country the week before Halloween?

There is a big difference between the possibility of a sports related riot as compared to the possibility of a riot after the verdict of an EXTREMELY polarizing, nationally covered, killer cop trial that involves massive racial undertones.

If you don't understand the logic process behind how these decisions were and were not made to allocate resources efficiently I can only hope you're not in a position to make any decisions more important than whether or not its time to buy a new car.

[MrScorpio]

25. Hmmm, looking over those pics in the OP

I figure that the authorities didn't feel alarmed enough to deploy the National Guard in any of those events because a sports riot of drunken white people lacks whatever existential threat that would be instinctively generated by any particular large group of angry minorities, rebelling against a racist socio-economic system.

A drunken sports riot of mostly white people merely represents a segment of the enfranchised population throwing off a little celebratory steam. It's actually an endorsement of the prevailing system. An exercise of privileges.

When minorities rebel against the prevailing system, one from which they lack privilege, that rebellion represents an implicit threat to that system.

So, obviously there's a great difference between the two for those who represent and protect the prevailing order.

Thanks for pointing out that difference.

[GummyBearz]

26. The difference in decision making is

based on the probability of the national guard being needed. You don't deploy the national guard after every college football game. You do deploy the national guard when there is an extremely volatile situation revolving around a jury decision that you know will be delivered on a certain day, and protests have already occurred, and will likely get much worse depending on the jury's verdict.

[MrScorpio]

29. Yes, of course, there's a difference.

Especially when one considers the differences.

One is a large and ongoing demonstration against the prevailing racist system by minorities, who are relegated to a disenfranchised status and are naturally reacting to an event such as an unjust jury verdict. One which reinforces that disenfranchisement. On the other hand, you have a drunken gaggle of somewhere between fifteen to fifty thousand mostly white tax-payers and their offspring overturning and barbecuing some emergency vehicles party-style. After all, they inherently derive benefit from such a racist system.

Then you have the difference of geography, of course. For example, when any unjust jury verdict is announced, you wouldn't want a rebellion of minorities triggered by it to threaten areas outside of where they are segregated. Lines are drawn and that's where the National Guard can come in handy.

On the other hand, the drunken, mostly white partygoers all face no such limits to their mobility. The areas around sports venues and university campuses are where they belong. So whatever mayhem that happens there is done by those who are otherwise allowed to be there. What's the point of containment?

Also the reasons behind a rebellion against an unjust action by the authority and the reaction to the bread and circuses of a sporting event are quite different as well.

The National Guard is there to protect the prevailing racist socio-economic infrastructure from internal threats. Drunken white taxpayers and their scions don't represent a threat to that system.

[GummyBearz]

30. I understand your reasons.

I understand this country's law enforcement has an institutional racism problem. Do you understand how well diversified this country's armed forces are? Given a choice, I'd rather have the guard there than the cops of Ferguson.

All that being said, making an argument based on false comparisons (as your OP does), does NOT help the cause of bringing more justice to the so-called justice system. In fact it gives opponents of such ideas an easy target. That is why I take exception to your OP. Bottom line is, if you are gonna do something, do it right.

[Travis_0004]

27. you can not deploy the national guard in one hour.

The police came in, hopfully arrested the people and by the next night things were peaceful.

In ferguson, there was a week of rioting in August, so you could deploy the NG, and they did a pretty good job. This week, they had advance notice that a decision would come soon, so they deployed the guard again.

If a sports riot went on for a week straight you would see the national guarf called in.

[MrScorpio]

28. True, but I'm also pointing something else out to the other guy. nt

[Rex]

31. The point of the OP makes some people very uncomfortable.

[GummyBearz]

32. The point

he wants to make no doubt makes people uncomfy. The problem is his false comparison argument. Read up a few posts (posts 26-30)

[MrScorpio]

33. Thanks, GummyBearz

I wouldn't know how this place could operate without you!