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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 06:02 AM Nov 2014

Not credible: Wilson Described Michael Brown as 'Crazy,' Intent on Killing Him

I don't think it's just my bias; my horror at police malfeasance and the targeting of young black man that has me finding the testimony of Wilson self-serving bullshit. It just doesn't ring true. About the only way I could see someone behaving as Wilson alleges that Brown was, if they were loaded to the gills with PCP or crystal meth.


Ferguson, Missouri, police Officer Darren Wilson alleged that Michael Brown taunted him, telling him he was too cowardly to shoot him, before Wilson fired 12 rounds and killed the unarmed teenager, according to a transcript of Wilson's interview with detectives the day after the Aug. 9 shooting.

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Later in the interview, Wilson said Brown was physically uncontrollable and "for lack of a better word, crazy. I've never seen that. I mean, it was very aggravated, aggressive, hostile. Just, you couldn't, you could, you could tell he was lookin' through ya."

Wilson's account to police closely matches what court records show he told the grand jury in four hours of testimony in September. Brown was so large and menacing, he testified, that "I felt like a five-year-old holding onto Hulk Hogan," adding, "That's just how big he felt and how small I felt just from grasping his arm."

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"I was already trapped and didn't know what he was gonna do to me but I knew it wasn't gonna be good," Wilson said. Because Brown had him pinned, Wilson couldn't reach his Mace canister, he said. And he wasn't carrying a Taser, so he pulled his SIG Sauer .40-caliber P229 handgun.

The teen allegedly taunted the cop, telling him, "You're too much of a p---y to shoot me," Wilson told investigators. Then, according to the transcript, Brown grabbed his gun, and "my firearm was in his control around my hand."

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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/wilson-described-michael-brown-crazy-intent-killing-him-n255521

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Not credible: Wilson Described Michael Brown as 'Crazy,' Intent on Killing Him (Original Post) cali Nov 2014 OP
And this is the only credible eyewitness-account? DetlefK Nov 2014 #1
Well, the problem is a lot of witnesses say Brown "charged" or "advanced" Recursion Nov 2014 #2
Dorian Johnson was right next to Brown when this entire incident happened justiceischeap Nov 2014 #16
I don't find it in the least bit credible. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #3
Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #4
first of all, mr/ms nicky, I'm a woman- par for the course that you'd make an assumption cali Nov 2014 #5
Troll be gone soon. hobbit709 Nov 2014 #8
thank goodness. cali Nov 2014 #11
It reminds me of another case... BanzaiBonnie Nov 2014 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #7
Brown was just a teenager.... FarPoint Nov 2014 #9
what comparison to MLK, mr/ms, nicky? cali Nov 2014 #10
maybe it's me, but if someone was in, or reaching into my car.. frylock Nov 2014 #12
Because the child killer is full of shit up to his eyeballs. Rex Nov 2014 #13
+1 Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #14
Well, cop does have that video from the strong-armed robbery shortly before. maced666 Nov 2014 #15
Well, cop didn't know about the alleged strong arm robbery justiceischeap Nov 2014 #17
Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #18
Or vice versa. nt nc4bo Nov 2014 #19
Yep. Wilson has comparable proportions, plus a gun and a badge. arcane1 Nov 2014 #20

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. Well, the problem is a lot of witnesses say Brown "charged" or "advanced"
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 06:22 AM
Nov 2014

Though the language varies from "charge" to "run" to "walk" to "stumble", and people can't seem to agree if his arms were "up" or "forward" or "out".

I don't think anybody other than Wilson described the look on his face (they were farther away and, once the shooting started, generally ducking).

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
16. Dorian Johnson was right next to Brown when this entire incident happened
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:11 PM
Nov 2014

I've seen him interviewed multiple times and his story has not once changed. I'd say that's a pretty credible eyewitness account. As a matter of fact, his and Wilson's accounts pretty much parallel one another until it gets to what happened at the vehicle and on the street when Brown is killed.

This is one instance where their stories diverge:
Johnson states the Wilson backed up so close to he and Brown that when he threw open the door, it bounced off of them and hit Wilson. Wilson then tries pulling Brown into the vehicle and a tug of war occurs. Johnson says Brown is trying to pull away and Wilson is trying to pull him in. Johnson also claims that at no time is Brown's hands inside the vehicle. Johnson even testifies that Brown hands off the Cigarellos.

The stories then meet up again with the two running away from Wilson.

Stories diverge again here:
As Johnson and Brown are running away, Wilson fires shots. I'll repeat, while Johnson and Brown, with their backs turned, are running away, Wilson fires shots. Johnson ducks behind a car but sees a second shot hit Brown. Brown turns around, hands up, and tries to tell Wilson he isn't armed but is shot dead before he can complete his statement. Johnson also says at no time was Brown's hand in his waistband.

This is the same exact telling Johnson has been relaying from the beginning (except for the hands near the waistband part because that's new to the narrative from Wilson).

I've seen most of his interviews and his story has not changed in any significant ways.

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cali

(114,904 posts)
5. first of all, mr/ms nicky, I'm a woman- par for the course that you'd make an assumption
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 06:38 AM
Nov 2014

about my gender.

I think your ugly bias is crystal clear, and noting your posts on this subject, one can see you know jackshit about this case and are completely in thrall to your bigo- oops, I mean bias.

now go away. your "bias" is disgusting.

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FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
9. Brown was just a teenager....
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 06:49 AM
Nov 2014

Still evolving into a man of character. To label him a coward is despicable.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. what comparison to MLK, mr/ms, nicky?
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 06:52 AM
Nov 2014

and your "point" is a reeking heap.

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2. Reject the “he was a good kid” narrative and lift up the “black lives matter” narrative.

Michael Brown was a good kid, by accounts of those who knew him during his short life. But that’s not why his death is tragic. His death isn’t tragic because he was a sweet kid on his way to college next week. His death is tragic because he was a human being and his life mattered. The Good Kid narrative might provoke some sympathy but what it really does is support the lie that as a rule black people, black men in particular, have a norm of violence or criminal behavior. The Good Kid narrative says that this kid didn’t deserve to die because his goodness was the exception to the rule. This is wrong. This kid didn’t deserve to die because he was a human being and black lives matter.

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http://qz.com/250701/12-things-white-people-can-do-now-because-ferguson/

your assumption that Mike Brown was a criminal speaks volumes about your "bias" Your bullshit about King demonstrates that YOU think young black men have to be above reproach to be victims is racism pure and simple.

now go away.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
12. maybe it's me, but if someone was in, or reaching into my car..
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 05:50 PM
Nov 2014

i fucking accelerate. if they opt to come along for the ride, then that's their choice. why wasn't this ever an option?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. Because the child killer is full of shit up to his eyeballs.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 08:09 PM
Nov 2014

I've never read such garbage as this report. Wilson played the "black man monster = scary evil" card and it worked. There is no way things happened like Wilson said they did and not a mark on the man. I saw the pictures of the supposed assault by Brown and as far as I can tell Wilson doesn't have a scratch on him.

 

maced666

(771 posts)
15. Well, cop does have that video from the strong-armed robbery shortly before.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:11 PM
Nov 2014

The clerk was shoved aside like a balled up piece of paper.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
17. Well, cop didn't know about the alleged strong arm robbery
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:14 PM
Nov 2014

It's in his initial statement to police after the shooting. In his recalling of events during his grand jury testimony, he tells a different tale.

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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
20. Yep. Wilson has comparable proportions, plus a gun and a badge.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:18 PM
Nov 2014

I'm sure he's accustomed to getting his way too!

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