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Is there any chance Wilson will be indicted on federal charges? (Original Post) MoonRiver Nov 2014 OP
My guess is slim to none. n/t cali Nov 2014 #1
I mean, "yes", but the legal hurdles are pretty high Recursion Nov 2014 #2
I doubt it. badtoworse Nov 2014 #3
Wow, you posted the exact same lies in another thread. Word for word. KittyWampus Nov 2014 #13
What did I post that is not true? badtoworse Nov 2014 #14
Very slim to none Lee-Lee Nov 2014 #4
I'm sure all of you are correct. MoonRiver Nov 2014 #5
No, cops are above the law. B Calm Nov 2014 #6
Apparently wannabe cops, e.g. Zimmerman, are also. MoonRiver Nov 2014 #7
I highly doubt it Amishman Nov 2014 #8
What about a civil suit? Wrongful death? nt s-cubed Nov 2014 #9
Qualified Immunity Amishman Nov 2014 #11
The department/city/county is the logical target, and presumably will be sued and settle Recursion Nov 2014 #16
Based on the evidence I've waded through so far, no chance at all. FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #10
Personally, manslaughter Recursion Nov 2014 #17
I don't think the DoJ can charge manslaughter, GGJohn Nov 2014 #18
Ah, I should have read the OP. I was thinking state charges. Recursion Nov 2014 #19
Doubtful is my guess. cordelia Nov 2014 #12
would be a republican wet dream dembotoz Nov 2014 #15

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. I mean, "yes", but the legal hurdles are pretty high
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 06:48 AM
Nov 2014

DoJ is still doing its investigation, so I'm not saying to give up hope, just that the Federal standard here is pretty strict.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
3. I doubt it.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 06:55 AM
Nov 2014

There is no question that Brown had robbed the convenience store and that Wilson knew about the robbery and had an accurate description of Brown before he confronted him. This clearly gave Wilson probable cause. Unless the feds reach a different conclusion as to whether the use of deadly force was justified, I believe that a lack of probable cause (i.e. that Wilson targeted Brown because he was Black) is the only basis for a federal civil rights charge.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
14. What did I post that is not true?
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:11 AM
Nov 2014

You need some basis to support federal charges and I don't see one. If you do, then lay it out.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
4. Very slim to none
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 07:06 AM
Nov 2014

The tapes and testimony do establish (contrary to earlier reports that many here used to make up their minds) that Wilson did know about the reported robbery earlier and that Brown matched the description. That gave him more than enough reason to stop the pair.

A civil rights charge is the only possible charge, but given that the initial confrontation between them doesn't appear racially motivated nor does Wilsons retuning when he realized they matched the robbery- unless they can somehow say the forensics don't support Wilsons account I am not seeing any way to support Federal charges. Granted I am not done reading all that was released, but at this point I see no grounds for charges.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
5. I'm sure all of you are correct.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 07:25 AM
Nov 2014

It's just so horrifying to see black youth continually gunned down by police and racist vigilantes with no consequences, almost like a sport.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
8. I highly doubt it
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 07:46 AM
Nov 2014

They would need at least one piece of extremely damning evidence, and I don't think there is anything big enough.

Wilson's story was crafted to fit the evidence, and if the information given last night is to be believed, the witnesses all contradict each other and/or the official evidence story. Unless someone comes forward with proof of evidence tampering, this is done.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
11. Qualified Immunity
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:06 AM
Nov 2014

Wilson is protected by qualified immunity as a police officer. He can only really be sued if it can be clearly shown that he violated someone's rights. If a grand jury refused to pursue charges, it is extremely unlikely that qualified immunity could be overcome.

It might be easier to sue the police dept itself or the city, but Wilson himself is essentially untouchable.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
16. The department/city/county is the logical target, and presumably will be sued and settle
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:19 AM
Nov 2014

There's a depressing calculus of how much a human life is worth that lawyers and actuaries have down to a T.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
10. Based on the evidence I've waded through so far, no chance at all.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:57 AM
Nov 2014

Witness accounts vary but many match the official version and the forensic evidence supports them.

The officer had probable cause.

What would you have Wilson charged with?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
17. Personally, manslaughter
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:21 AM
Nov 2014

Though that would take overturning the current MO deadly force statute (which is probably doable).

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
18. I don't think the DoJ can charge manslaughter,
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:23 AM
Nov 2014

that's not their juridiction. I could be wrong, but this was not a killing on federal property.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
19. Ah, I should have read the OP. I was thinking state charges.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:25 AM
Nov 2014

Federally, yeah, I don't see available charges unless I could disprove his claim about hearing the dispatch call.

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
15. would be a republican wet dream
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:17 AM
Nov 2014

that cop would end up with hero status that would make olle north turn green with envy.
prob end up as vp on the 2016 gop presidential ballot

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