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Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:54 AM Nov 2014

Former FBI Asst Director: "I have seen that demon face... just look at the convenience store video."

Said on CNN this morning by one of their legal analysts, a former Assistant Director of the FBI:

"Officer Wilson talked about how (Mike Brown) looked like a demon... that may sound strange but having served on the street, I have seen that demonic face, many times... and if you don't believe me, you can see it for yourself on the convenience store video, just moments before he was shot!"

I forget his name, he had a hispanic name (how sad)... Joe somebody. Naturally there's no article about it on search engine.

Nope... no civil rights issue here. No literal demonization of the victim by the defendant AND the prosecutors!

Meanwhile, Ex-Mayor and former "white ethnic cop" (funny how people's ethnicity is never brought up and never hurts their standing in police circles so long as they are "white" whatever that means) Rudy Giuliani made an ass of himself on CNN again, talking about how 87% of the crime in "his city" is caused by blacks and only 8% by whites and "that is the real issue here", that is why police officers don't trust the citizens in these communities and he would have flooded the streets with cops. He also disingenuously claimed he didn't put lots of cops on Park Avenue when he was mayor because that's not where the crime was (no street cop presence in gentrified / gentrifying Manhattan neighborhoods... sure. Nope, Chuck Giuliani! The issue is the cops in Manhattan were there, and beefed up -- but they were there to arrest / harrass any threatening black teenagers and other "potential hoodlums" that might have appeared in the neighborhood. Actual arrests would naturally be made on the home turf where they thought all those "black criminals" lived.) He also said "you mess with us, you get arrested", us meaning "me and my white-ethnic cop friends" apparently, showing how impartial these ethnically-white former prosecutors, who seem to get along fine because of their ethnicity, are.

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Former FBI Asst Director: "I have seen that demon face... just look at the convenience store video." (Original Post) Leopolds Ghost Nov 2014 OP
You can't see his face on the video gollygee Nov 2014 #1
He was a demon! Naturally you can't see the face clearly Leopolds Ghost Nov 2014 #2
Cops are now warrior priests Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #6
Like Constantine from Hellblazer Leopolds Ghost Nov 2014 #8
So has there been no outrage over this head-nodding about literal demonization of the victim? Leopolds Ghost Nov 2014 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Sweeney Nov 2014 #4
Did anyone else see this, and remember the name of who said it?? Leopolds Ghost Nov 2014 #5
That sounds like Joe Navarro pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #13
Ouch -- it sounds insensitive to say I can't remember if it was Joe Navarro or Tom Fuentes Leopolds Ghost Nov 2014 #21
demonize him! He must be dehumanized! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #7
"Like it was making him mad that I was shooting at him" gvstn Nov 2014 #9
He was bulking up! Leopolds Ghost Nov 2014 #11
The Incredible Hulk gollygee Nov 2014 #12
Can't imagine why getting shot at nobodyspecial Nov 2014 #14
It's also easy to confuse gollygee Nov 2014 #15
"His city" is Wall Street Starry Messenger Nov 2014 #10
oh those magical negroes noiretextatique Nov 2014 #16
voodoo Leopolds Ghost Nov 2014 #22
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2014 #23
You can also see them demon faces in the clouds around the Twin Towers as they collapsed deutsey Nov 2014 #17
Excellent point. johnnyreb Nov 2014 #18
Was it Tom Fuentes? Sienna86 Nov 2014 #19
Yeah, that was him, I do believe. Leopolds Ghost Nov 2014 #20
It was Tom Fuentes. Saw him again. He fits the profile of a middle-aged, white person in a suit Leopolds Ghost Nov 2014 #24

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
1. You can't see his face on the video
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:56 AM
Nov 2014

Dehumanization. That's all it is. It's easier to kill or to justify killing when you've dehumanized the victim.

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
2. He was a demon! Naturally you can't see the face clearly
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:00 AM
Nov 2014

Like in a horror movie! Why, I heard Obama was a demon too! He's got dark skin and everything.

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
3. So has there been no outrage over this head-nodding about literal demonization of the victim?
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:07 AM
Nov 2014

Nothing but tacit approval of the comment I saw on-air, about how imposing and demonic looking Michael Brown was (one commentator noted that Darren Wilson was also huge, 6'4" and 240 lb. but was ignored because everyone knows white people, especially blondes like Wilson, are helpless victims.)

Response to Leopolds Ghost (Original post)

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
13. That sounds like Joe Navarro
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:56 AM
Nov 2014

He's a former FBI agent and an expert on nonverbal communication. He sometimes appears on CNN.

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
21. Ouch -- it sounds insensitive to say I can't remember if it was Joe Navarro or Tom Fuentes
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 07:23 PM
Nov 2014

But that is because I'm dyslexic, not because both of them have scary white-ethnic names or something.

Giuliani, on the other hand... he does kind of look like a vampire... I'll show myself out now...

When you say "an expert on nonverbal communication" do you mean:

a) he knows demon faces when he sees them

b) he is an actual expert on nonverbal communication (them all-crucial hands that protect you from getting shot)

c) he is a completely inarticulate and idiotic commentator? or possibly all three

Oh BTW, another CNN legal analyst (former prosecutor and current defense attorney) came right out and said that "in Missouri and many states, officers have the right to stand their ground and shoot when someone looks like they're about to come after them." They also have the right to shoot a fleeing suspect so both analysts agreed there was no possible way he could be indicted because he couldn't possibly be guilty!

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
9. "Like it was making him mad that I was shooting at him"
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:24 AM
Nov 2014


Who could of anticipated someone being shot might get some adrenaline? The institutionalized blatant racism in this whole fiasco is embarrassing for Missouri.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
16. oh those magical negroes
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:40 AM
Nov 2014

Who can turn themselves into demons with superhuman powers. Remarkable how similar this narrative is to Zimmerman's, replete with a sympathetic prosecutor. Don't mess with success

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
17. You can also see them demon faces in the clouds around the Twin Towers as they collapsed
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:48 AM
Nov 2014

I heard it on TV, so it must be true.

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
20. Yeah, that was him, I do believe.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 04:59 PM
Nov 2014

I would say "that asshole" but my mind is like a sieve these days, apparently, so I don't want to speak out of turn. Clearly I'd be one of those "unreliable" witnesses or (as one of the former prosecutors said on CNN) "if you have a reliable defendant as a witness, then there's nothing wrong with having the defendant testify before the grand jury!" Make sense?)
Because you only want to prosecute unreliable defendants.

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
24. It was Tom Fuentes. Saw him again. He fits the profile of a middle-aged, white person in a suit
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 07:23 PM
Nov 2014

Although he is very non-descript looking, but I'm convinced it was him. (and he definitely said it, on Tuesday).

I wouldn't be surprised if the grand jury-deniers (new phrase) came out and claim it wasn't said at all, though. Am I a "credible witness"?

Oh, no wait, they wouldn't be upset by the statement being made about the victim being a demon, why would they care?

So, how many people are stopped and frisked in St. Louis on the basis of the description "middle-aged white male in a business suit"?

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