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joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:47 AM Nov 2014

Am I the only one with some anger towards the witnesses?

Whatever the actual course of events were that took place that afternoon in Ferguson, it is clear there are witnesses lying. Either you have people lying in the police's favor, giving them the opportunity to free a murderer, or you have people lying in the victim's favor, heightening anger towards the police in a tenuous situation.

Clearly there are plenty of parties to have anger towards, but I can't help but wonder where we would be sitting today if whatever witnesses that lied told the truth.

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FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
1. Every lawyer knows witnesses are unreliable
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:51 AM
Nov 2014

Sometimes they think they saw something, so it's not out right lying.

Sometime they lie.

When so many witnesses started popping up, I knew some would not be credible.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
2. This - witnesses bring their own prejudices to the table.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:53 AM
Nov 2014

Try this experiment - watch a tv show with a friend, or better yet, a group of friends - a week later get together and talk about what happened in the TV show - see how many inconsistencies and disagreements crop up.

Bryant

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
3. why would you be mad at the witnesses?
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:54 AM
Nov 2014

I did not read the document dump, but for just regular people on a stand in who knows what kind of atmosphere having their stories picked apart. wait and see what comes out of this, I hope they were not admonished against talking. I would like to hear their side.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
5. The science of memory says that our brains are not video recorders
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:57 AM
Nov 2014

people can watch the same event and walk away with completely different accounts of what actually happened. They are not lying - they truly believe they remember exactly what happened. But science and years of actual trial experience says otherwise.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
6. Then you discount the possibility of inaccuracies, mistakes and incorrect perceptions...
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:59 AM
Nov 2014

Then you discount the possibility of inaccuracies, mistakes and incorrect perceptions on behalf of the witnesses, and believe they were only, and could only be a lie?

brush

(53,784 posts)
7. All the more reason for there to have been an indictment and . . .
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:32 PM
Nov 2014

let the truth come out in a trial.

The prosecutor did not want that happen though.

White cops killing unarmed blacks in nothing to see, move along, move along.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
8. You should look into the science behind eye witness testimony.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:35 PM
Nov 2014

Entirely possible witness for both sides think they saw, what they said they saw.

Eye witness testimony sucks. Memory is a reconstructive process that is shaped just as much as post-hoc (especially with wall to wall media coverage) thinking as what actually happened.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
9. I am angry at the DA ... acting as Wilson's defense attorney
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:39 PM
Nov 2014

Witnesses are witnesses .... without cross examination their testimony means little

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