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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:54 AM Nov 2014

Witness #40

Last edited Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Witness #40
Posted by Betty Cracker at 10:44 am
Nov
25
2014

........

By a series of amazing coincidences, this person magically ended up witnessing events, and his or her perspective aligned perfectly with Officer Wilson’s account. Witness #40’s testimony comes in the form of handwritten journal entries, which you can view for yourself here. http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1370734-witness-40-journal-entry.html

Here’s how it starts:


August 9th Saturday 8 am
Well I’m gonna take my random drive to Florissant. Need to understand the Black race better so I stop calling Blacks Niggers and start calling them People. Like dad always said you cant fear or hate an entire race cause of what one man did 40 yrs ago.


The “journal” goes on to recount how Witness #40 takes a series of wrong turns and coincidentally turns up at the scene of the Brown shooting moments before it happens and sees the whole thing unfold. His or her account includes the following:

The cop just stood there dang if that kid didnt start running right at the cop like a football player. Head down.


The story is helpfully populated with “sweet” and “nice” local people whose wonderful qualities Witness #40 notes in the journal, qualities a racist who was attempting to create a post-hoc justification for a widely publicized police shooting would totally NOT appreciate, let alone record in a personal diary that later inexplicably found its way into evidence files. (wink-wink-nudge-nudge).

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1370734-witness-40-journal-entry.html
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2014/11/25/witness-40/
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Witness #40 (Original Post) kpete Nov 2014 OP
No surprise, but still ... wtf? n/t etherealtruth Nov 2014 #1
Some of this witness testimony is complete bullshit. giftedgirl77 Nov 2014 #2
I thought this was satire Kelvin Mace Nov 2014 #3
me too! Klown Kar in the Kourtroom! librechik Nov 2014 #24
Like to see the other pages of the Journal. Downwinder Nov 2014 #4
It this a person exposed by Anon? lonestarnot Nov 2014 #5
This was a witnesses' journal that was introduced as testimony before the octoberlib Nov 2014 #10
Well, I guess you can just UncleYoder Nov 2014 #6
OT, but: are you really my uncle?? yodermon Nov 2014 #8
Depends. UncleYoder Nov 2014 #12
Bizarre. Really strange. nt Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #7
what. the. hell. wheniwasincongress Nov 2014 #9
'I'm not a racist. Now hold my beer' me b zola Nov 2014 #11
I call Witness #40 testimony into question based on the following on page 2: justiceischeap Nov 2014 #13
Ending: "No One Will Believe Me Anyway" Stallion Nov 2014 #14
for some strange reason onethatcares Nov 2014 #15
My goodness, what an incredible stroke of luck the a white racist kept such a detailed "diary" procon Nov 2014 #16
procon kpete Nov 2014 #18
Thanks kpp procon Nov 2014 #19
This sounds about as authentic as a letter to Penthouse. underpants Nov 2014 #17
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot. phantom power Nov 2014 #20
First six I read were all generally favorable to Wilson TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #21
Googled - Witness 40 underpants Nov 2014 #22
This person's admitted racist feelings in the past would destroy any testimony he gives at trial aint_no_life_nowhere Nov 2014 #23
this makes me want Holder to investigate KKK ties to Ferguson law enforcement librechik Nov 2014 #25
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
3. I thought this was satire
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:02 PM
Nov 2014

WTF?!!!!!!

An actually goddamned "witness" was allowed to introduce this shit? The goddamned Hitler diaries were better fakes!!!

If this is what passes for "evidence" at a grand jury trial then an asteroid strike in the South is this nation's only hope.

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
9. what. the. hell.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:20 PM
Nov 2014

Can they corroborate Green Shirt Man who grabbed 40's arm and told 40 to leave?

I think it's a woman's handwriting...

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
13. I call Witness #40 testimony into question based on the following on page 2:
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:33 PM
Nov 2014

"I swear the little one had the cops leg"
"The cop got out left hand on face right hand on gun"
"the big kid turned around had his arms out with attitude"

Never once was Dorian Johnson accused of being involved with the confrontation, other than being with Michael Brown and being an eyewitness.

Second, as the pictures show, Wilson was "injured" on the right side of his face, so one can surmise from the witness diary that Wilson was supposedly holding his left hand to his injured face, meaning his left arm would have to be crossing his face. As far as right hand on gun, are we to assume that Wilson shot Brown in the car then holstered his weapon before getting out of the car or after? Which means, if the weapon was holstered, he pulled the gun a second time instead of staying in his vehicle and waiting for back-up since Michael Brown was so demonic and such.

If Witness #40 was facing Wilson (had to be to know he was holding his face with his left hand and had his right hand on gun), how did he or she know Brown had his arms out with "attitude" since his back was to the witness at this point?

Lastly, the sequence of shots the witness describes is easily debunked by listening to the audio captured from the video dating guy.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
14. Ending: "No One Will Believe Me Anyway"
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:57 PM
Nov 2014

A good lawyer would tear this witness apart on cross examination just based on the prejudice shown in first paragraph

onethatcares

(16,172 posts)
15. for some strange reason
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:09 PM
Nov 2014

I call BULLSHIT ON THIS BULLSHT

someone please arrest this asshole that wrote this for perjury.

procon

(15,805 posts)
16. My goodness, what an incredible stroke of luck the a white racist kept such a detailed "diary"
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:26 PM
Nov 2014

How fortuitous that this *cough-cough* random citizen just decided to randomly drive to through Fergusson that day for the laudable purpose of not calling black folks n******, and what an incredible stroke of luck that he arrived at the scene at exactly the same time as Brown was shot, and even more advantageous (to the prosecutor) s/he was close enough to have a clear and direct line of sight to witness everything that happened with no risk to himself. What's even more serendipitous is that his oh-so-precisely-worded first hand account is an exact match to Wilson's version of events.

I've kept many journals and dairies in my life, some were just the rants, tirades and frustrations that generated the real and imagined outrages of youth, sometimes it only covered a significant event like a trip to Europe, others were rambling streams of consciousness, or specific projects like recipe creation for a cookbook. Here's the thing, every single written entry I made looks a little different than the one preceding it. Maybe I used a different pen so the words look lighter or bolder, or maybe I was writing on a train, or while sprawled on the bed, or sitting at a table, or holding a baby and/or the cat, or trying to eat lunch at a crowded street café. I might have scribbled something unreadable in a rush, or an unintelligible scrawl written while under the influence or maybe I was really tired or excited... The point is, my writings never looked the same because of all these other conditions.

When I saw this so called journal, my first impression was that it was a totally bogus fakery. Significant, it appears to have been written all at the same time because the writing style remains notably consistent throughout. There are also several statements about memory gaps, which seems to contradict the "helpful, if amateurish, chronological time stamps that are meant to give the impression that the entries are indeed being written even as the shooting unfolds.

procon

(15,805 posts)
19. Thanks kpp
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:39 PM
Nov 2014

That prosecutor must have been hoping that everyone was stupid or brain dead if he thinks this witness's ridiculously contrived tall tale is believable. If this is representative of the caliber of the obviously cherry-picked testimony and evidence he presented to the jury, he's the one who should be on trial here for incompetence.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
17. This sounds about as authentic as a letter to Penthouse.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:27 PM
Nov 2014

Other comments on balloon juice

I don’t get it. If the whole thing was fabricated, why insert gratuitous racist comments?

About as believable as the crime scene guy forgetting the battery for his camera.

I was also a witness to the Michael Brown shooting. That particular day, I decided to fly a special wing suit I made with fairy dust and powered with unicorn farts. Of course, I got lost and had to ask for directions several times; once from a passing pigeon and once I yelled down to a very nice lineman and asked him where the Michael Brown shooting was going to be…

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
21. First six I read were all generally favorable to Wilson
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 03:06 PM
Nov 2014

Even the one of the guy that knew Brown personally, said he was the only youth that was respectful toward him and thought that the last volley of shots wasn't justified. Witness #14. It's everything else he said that was eye opening.

First half...
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1370952-interview-witness-14-1.html

Second half...
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1370953-interview-witness-14-2.html

Witness #16 also says that Brown charged at the officer.

The rest of the six I've read said that Brown was moving more slowly toward Wilson. Witness nos. 10, 12, and I can't remember the other numbers off the top of my head.

I'm just reading them pretty much in the order they appear in the list here which is not chronological...

http://documents.latimes.com/ferguson-grand-jury/

Man, this is a HELL of a lot to read. I'll probably be plowing through it all for a week.

It's frustrating though that in the interviews when a witness shows something physically whether with their body or drawing a diagram, etc. it's not explained what's being shown. As an example (and I'm just making this up), "He was looking like this with his arms like this and stumbling along in this position just before the last volley of shots when he fell on his face."

I thought the interviewing detectives were supposed to clarify these things with words for the benefit of the recording.

Almost all of them also said that Johnson was quite far away standing by a tree during the altercation inside the car, and after the shot was fired inside the car ran and jumped into the passenger seat of a white Monte Carlo that immediately sped off. He never saw exactly what happened inside the car nor did he see anything that happened to Brown after they both ran. Johnson left the scene having no idea that Brown was shot or that he was killed. He found out from word of mouth and came back to the scene later with a girl that had her arm around him in a different car.

One eyewitness (I believe it was #12) said they videoed with their cellphone. Another of the six I read mentioned a girl that also videoed with her cellphone. Anyone know where these videos are?

Just read two more eyewitness reports both favorable to Wilson - no hands up and went toward Wilson. This bit I really laughed about from witness #30...

DET: Uh... what.. uh what made you decide to.. to talk to us about this today?

WIT: My wife and I discussed it, and... look... I'm a felon.. I..I..I.. don't have any love for the police. But..(Chuckles)

DET: Yeah.

WIT: I..I...I... I don't like you.. I don't like you guys.

DET: Well, that's fine.

WIT: But... what I saw... to me... appeared to be an officer taking down a gun man, in a crowded residential neighborhood... and... befo... before somebody else got hurt.

DET: Ok.

WIT: And... to me... the man was just doing his job.


LOL! I'm a felon. I don't have any love for the police. I don't like you guys. LOL! That's pretty in-your-face honest.

I just thought that bit was hilarious.



aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
23. This person's admitted racist feelings in the past would destroy any testimony he gives at trial
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 12:04 PM
Nov 2014

This would be a massacre on the witness stand at trial, undermining his testimony with his bias, his motive to lie, and his lack of credibility. Unfortunately, the cross examiner at a trial who could take this witness apart like a cheap suit would have to be the prosecutor (not a defense attorney) and McCulloch doesn't seem to be disposed to harshly cross examine anyone supporting Wilson.

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