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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 12:20 PM Apr 2012

Bashir: Book of Mormon promises ‘eternal damnation’ for Romney’s lies

MSNBC host Martin Bashir on Thursday read from the Book of Mormon to make the point that presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney might win the White House by lying but he would be condemned to “eternal damnation.”

“Mr. Romney seems to be having some trouble telling the truth,” Bashir explained. “In fact, yesterday Mitt the mendacious offered a hat trick of falsehoods.”

The MSNBC host pointed to disputed claims that Romney’s campaign had not sought the endorsement of Ted Nugent, that there was a “vast left-wing conspiracy” by the media to defeat him and that President Barack Obama promised to keep unemployment “below 8 percent.”

“It is something that the president had never written or said,” Bashir pointed out. “Mitt Romney prefers to tell lies, which brings us the moral codes of Mormonism that Mr. Romney claims to live by.”

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Bashir: Book of Mormon promises ‘eternal damnation’ for Romney’s lies (Original Post) Playinghardball Apr 2012 OP
I'm praying to the Angel Moroni The Blue Flower Apr 2012 #1
But "a hat trick of falsehoods” was important to Joseph Smith's con game Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #2
If you had golden plates would you lose them? xtraxritical Apr 2012 #3
Every pundit and journalist should be discussing Romney's blatant lies. FSogol Apr 2012 #4
But If Mormons Lie For The Good of Mormonism otohara Apr 2012 #5
I keep trying, as a former mormon, to warn people about Mormon Royalty like Mitt... arbusto_baboso Apr 2012 #6
Etch-A-Sketch bongbong Apr 2012 #7
With all due respects to Mormons everywhere...... Swede Atlanta Apr 2012 #8

The Blue Flower

(5,444 posts)
1. I'm praying to the Angel Moroni
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 01:41 PM
Apr 2012

I sincerely pray that this is just the beginning of the MSM calling his lies exactly that. I've never heard a politician spew so many so fast.

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
2. But "a hat trick of falsehoods” was important to Joseph Smith's con game
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 01:50 PM
Apr 2012

there really was a hat and trickery involved

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
5. But If Mormons Lie For The Good of Mormonism
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 02:17 PM
Apr 2012

it's okay.

It's called "lying for the Lord" - what ever it takes to advance the Mormon message is acceptable - what could advance the Mormon message more than having one in the White HOuse?

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It's a Mormon thing. It's called Lying for the Lord. And it's a tenet of the Mormon faith that, Mormons think, gives them to the right to tell you a bald-faced lie, so long as it's a lie that somehow furthers the Mormon cause.

What else to call the Mormon's laughable statement today that their posthumous baptism last year of President Obama's mother was a "rare" mistake that might have been done by "pranksters."

Yes, we're to believe that the Mormons, just by coincidence, forcibly converted a presidential candidate's deceased mother, 13 years after her death, and only months before the presidential election. And we're also to believe no warning bells went off at Mormon Central when they saw that the woman's husband, whose name is clearly listed on her "baptismal record," is "Barack Hussein Obama." (Obama's father has the same name.) Yes, all one big unfortunate "rare" mistake. Kind of like a clerical error. Except instead of giving you the wrong change, they just stole your mother's soul.http://www.americablog.com/2009/05/lying-for-lord.html

arbusto_baboso

(7,162 posts)
6. I keep trying, as a former mormon, to warn people about Mormon Royalty like Mitt...
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 02:31 PM
Apr 2012

And inform them that his mendacity comes not only from wealth and ambition, but from his sense of entitlement that comes from being a "Mormon of Importance".

But it falls on deaf ears and gets me called a bigot.

I would bet $10,000 that Mitt has received a "Second Annointing". Google that one and tell me it ain't completely creepy.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
7. Etch-A-Sketch
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 02:33 PM
Apr 2012

King Flipp-Flopp is a Mormon mostly as a business decision. Better networking set up than being a Rotary, Elk, Mason, etc.

As such, he could care less about anything post-death. He only cares about getting as much dough as possible.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
8. With all due respects to Mormons everywhere......
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 03:09 PM
Apr 2012

I was raised in a small town in the inter-mountain west where about 50% of the population are Mormon.

As a member of a traditional mainstream Protestant denomination, I find many of the Mormon beliefs and practices "cultish". But I think if we are intellectually honest we have to compare the story of Moses receiving the 10 Commandments on stone tablets to Joseph Smith's alleged discovery of the Book of Moroni on golden tablets. If we can believe one, why can't we believe the other?

But to the point of the post.....we know that all politicians, heck no, all of us, lie or tell "partial" or "total" untruths. The difference is when you have a candidate that is a habitual liar such as Romney. He lies repeatedly about previous positions he has held, previous policies he has advocated or implemented, etc.

By any moral measure, habitual lying is disfavored. But he has to run from his record to keep the conservatives on his side and run from the primary campaign speeches to attract independents.

Me thinks even if the angel Moroni descended into his briefing room today, Romney has many challenges to being perceived as a credible candidate outside his base.

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