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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:04 PM Apr 2012

Hey, DUers! Your fabulous Friday Afternoon Challenge today: Notorious!

Identify the "notorious" places below. All have been settings for works of literature and/or films, both true and fictional.

and please honor the “no cheat" rule, folks...

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Hey, DUers! Your fabulous Friday Afternoon Challenge today: Notorious! (Original Post) CTyankee Apr 2012 OP
guesses justabob Apr 2012 #1
you are correct! CTyankee Apr 2012 #7
woohoo justabob Apr 2012 #15
I'm glad! Thanks for coming on board. I want you to come back. You never know what CTyankee Apr 2012 #21
I always check out the threads justabob Apr 2012 #60
#6 is a tea party gathering jberryhill Apr 2012 #2
Bwah! gateley Apr 2012 #5
Okay, that was hilarious! Aerows Apr 2012 #9
#2 - The Reichstag - Berlin 1945? ellisonz Apr 2012 #3
It is Zeppelin Field and it is in Nuremburg. It was a marching field for the German Army. CTyankee Apr 2012 #11
Are you referring to #2 or #6? ellisonz Apr 2012 #16
Now down to 2, 4 and 5. CTyankee Apr 2012 #23
A couple more guesses ellisonz Apr 2012 #26
No Attica, no Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem... CTyankee Apr 2012 #27
Wait so is #2 the Hermitage in Leningrad or something else? ellisonz Apr 2012 #30
Is #2 in the US? sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #33
No, not in the U.S. Not at a hotel. CTyankee Apr 2012 #36
Okay, I have no clue then but will look for the answer as I'm curious now. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #49
You were a marching field for the German Army? Aerows Apr 2012 #17
Must be the angle WhoIsNumberNone Apr 2012 #18
A couple guesses RZM Apr 2012 #4
Not Shawshank. CTyankee Apr 2012 #13
I know #1,...it's joeybee12 Apr 2012 #6
K&R -- As always, clueless, but I LOVE these nonetheless! nt gateley Apr 2012 #8
I'm terrible at them too Aerows Apr 2012 #10
Exactly! Most of them I've never seen before! nt gateley Apr 2012 #14
I do try to make them somewhat offbeat... CTyankee Apr 2012 #19
Haha! Well, you succeed! I'm so curious about the gateley Apr 2012 #32
Well, she's not a nun! I don't know why it is characterized as such... CTyankee Apr 2012 #40
Because of the sparse, cloister-like room, the veil (just like the nuns I mentioned wore), the gateley Apr 2012 #41
I know, it is a bit curious, but I understand why it looks like this, given the circumstances of CTyankee Apr 2012 #43
And especially with my background -- gateley Apr 2012 #44
This was a place of bad outcomes... CTyankee Apr 2012 #48
Wow - I'm wracking my brain, but... nothing. nt gateley Apr 2012 #52
Lotta people went in but...it was a very bad time...maybe the worst of times... CTyankee Apr 2012 #53
Okay, I think I get the hint, gateley Apr 2012 #54
well, not really "it." You are making too much of this! CTyankee Apr 2012 #55
Nothin'. I got nothin'. :-) nt gateley Apr 2012 #56
my guesses WhoIsNumberNone Apr 2012 #12
The 3rd one looks like Bolivia... kentuck Apr 2012 #20
No. #3 has been guessed as Devil's Island... CTyankee Apr 2012 #22
I'm curious to see what no. 4 is. IcyPeas Apr 2012 #24
What do you think, Icy? CTyankee Apr 2012 #25
the wallpaper pattern IcyPeas Apr 2012 #28
OMG, is that what it is? CTyankee Apr 2012 #29
I agree it does look like that... ellisonz Apr 2012 #31
No, it is not Notre Dame... CTyankee Apr 2012 #38
The Sweat Shop Factory Fire? 1monster Apr 2012 #34
No, that fire is not here... CTyankee Apr 2012 #39
Number 4 looks like Van Gogh's room minus a window with a bad 1monster Apr 2012 #35
No it is not Van Gogh's room. CTyankee Apr 2012 #37
HINT: #2 is an outrageous event that probably a lot of DUers knew in their lifetime... CTyankee Apr 2012 #42
The woman in the photo looks like it could be the '60's. Is it Emma Peel?????? nt gateley Apr 2012 #45
In #2? I see only one person in the photo but it isn't Emma Peel. CTyankee Apr 2012 #46
I cheated but I'm not saying a word steve2470 Apr 2012 #50
well, you are good. It's more fun to piece it all together and come up with the right answer! CTyankee Apr 2012 #51
I'm guessing it's in Central or South America XemaSab Apr 2012 #59
On #5. Think more about your literary history on this one... CTyankee Apr 2012 #47
All men kill the thing they love... Brickbat Apr 2012 #57
Thanks. gateley Apr 2012 #58
I was wondering if the architecture gave it away, Plus the Stonehenge-y looking thing to the CTyankee Apr 2012 #82
I'm a little embarrassed to walk you through it, because it shows how much time I spend on these... Brickbat Apr 2012 #84
The Googling you did was FINE! No problem. But there is another way of using Google CTyankee Apr 2012 #85
So we're waiting on #2 and #6, right? Where are the DUers??? nt gateley Apr 2012 #61
2 and 4, I think justabob Apr 2012 #62
Yeah, I didn't mean 6 -- I got mixed up, too! :-) nt gateley Apr 2012 #65
Brickbat gave away #5: Reading Gaol pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #63
Yeah, thanks to Brickbat's excerpt, I found that one! nt gateley Apr 2012 #66
Is #4 of Mary, Queen of Scots, praying.... countryjake Apr 2012 #64
CTYankee hinted that lots of bad things happened there. You're at least gateley Apr 2012 #67
I think it is French Revolution... justabob Apr 2012 #68
This one has more stumpers than most, I think! nt gateley Apr 2012 #69
This is the only Challenge thread I have done well on.... ever justabob Apr 2012 #70
You grasped the right one. Brickbat Apr 2012 #71
really? cool! justabob Apr 2012 #72
Aw, I knew it had to be a Catholic...Marie Antoinette was third on my list! countryjake Apr 2012 #73
you got closer than anyone else justabob Apr 2012 #75
Is number 2 La Moneda in Chile XemaSab Apr 2012 #74
I'd love to know what gave it away! CTyankee Apr 2012 #81
I'll tell you what my thinking was: XemaSab Apr 2012 #87
I wondered about that sign since I didn't know what it meant (altho I suspected "no parking"). CTyankee Apr 2012 #88
Is No. 2 terrorists? Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2012 #76
Pretty sure I got it XemaSab Apr 2012 #77
Everybody did so well! CTyankee Apr 2012 #78
Thanks for another Friday Torture...I mean, Challenge pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #79
I like that you took a twist with the theme! Phentex Apr 2012 #80
Thanks for these CT! blaze Apr 2012 #83
I'm glad you have fun! That's what I want folks to have. CTyankee Apr 2012 #86
k&r RainDog Apr 2012 #89
Thanks, this one was fun, and interesting. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #90
after looking at no. 4 for so long... IcyPeas Apr 2012 #91
I went to the Carnevalet (museum of the history of Paris) last year and saw several CTyankee Apr 2012 #92

justabob

(3,069 posts)
1. guesses
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:16 PM
Apr 2012

1. Amistad slave ship
3. Devil's Island
6. Nuremburg Rally... can't remember the name of the stadium

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
7. you are correct!
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:23 PM
Apr 2012

Great guesses!

#1 is actually a replica of the Amistad. It is docked in my city's harbor, New Haven, CT...

#6's name is the Zeppelin Stadium.

justabob

(3,069 posts)
60. I always check out the threads
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 09:30 PM
Apr 2012

Notorious is just a good subject for me. I am not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing, but I kinda study "notorious" things for fun. Well, fun isn't the right word, but I am very interested in the mechanics of tyranny and oppression. Thanks for doing this thread every week, it is always interesting. I have had lots of art history, but I can never get any closer than a vague time period or recollection that I have seen a piece and at one time was tested on its significance, but it was never my best subject.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
11. It is Zeppelin Field and it is in Nuremburg. It was a marching field for the German Army.
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:27 PM
Apr 2012

But it has that famous Swastika atop the pole that was blown up and shown so many times in documentaries...

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
16. Are you referring to #2 or #6?
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:29 PM
Apr 2012

Either way, this is shaping up as the easiest Friday challenge in history!

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
26. A couple more guesses
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:58 PM
Apr 2012

If #2 is not the Reichstag, is it the Hermitage in Leningrad?

Is #5 Attica Prison in upstate New York?

And #5 wild guess is it the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem?

And with that, I got nothin'

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
27. No Attica, no Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem...
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 06:10 PM
Apr 2012

And #2 is not the Reichstag. It isn't even in Germany...

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
17. You were a marching field for the German Army?
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:32 PM
Apr 2012

Impressive!

I know it was a typo. At least I can contribute some humor to the thread since I have no idea LOL!

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
4. A couple guesses
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:22 PM
Apr 2012

5 - Shawshank Prison
6 - Nuremberger Sportoplast (or whatever it's called), where 'Triumph of the Will' was filmed

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
6. I know #1,...it's
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:22 PM
Apr 2012

Armitsead...it was actually docked on the Connecticut River a few summers back with a view of it from my father's balcony.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
32. Haha! Well, you succeed! I'm so curious about the
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 06:38 PM
Apr 2012

nun -- she looks like the nuns from Italy that ran my grade school. I think the Order was "Sisters of the Sacred Heart of Jesus". They came over from Italy with Mother Cabrini and opened orphanages across the country. She browbeat wealthy Catholics in the different locales to give GENEROUSLY. One of the nuns told my mother she'd be embarrassed when Mother Cabrini would drag them along to go "begging". In Seattle, anyway, they did very well acres and acres of Lake Washington waterfront property and an orphanage so elegant that when I was in Italy I'd keep going to places thinking "why does this look so familiar?" It was because it reminded me of Sacred Heart Villa! Terazzo tile floors, grottos around the property, just beautiful -- except it was brick.


Here's the cozy little chapel -- tricked out in recent years for a wedding



So the pic in your offering might be an old one of of good 'ol Mother Consolotta!

gateley

(62,683 posts)
41. Because of the sparse, cloister-like room, the veil (just like the nuns I mentioned wore), the
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 07:15 PM
Apr 2012

crucifix -- that's why!

Now I'm REALLY curious!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
43. I know, it is a bit curious, but I understand why it looks like this, given the circumstances of
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 07:23 PM
Apr 2012

the events that followed...

gateley

(62,683 posts)
54. Okay, I think I get the hint,
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 08:01 PM
Apr 2012

but I never read "it" (if I'm thinking of the correct thing) so I still don't know what it represents.

I'm hopeless -- you should give up on me!

WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
12. my guesses
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:28 PM
Apr 2012

1 looks like the interior of a slave ship- I'm guessing the Amastad
6 looks like the 1936 Berlin Olympics. It's definitely not a Nuremberg rally.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
46. In #2? I see only one person in the photo but it isn't Emma Peel.
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 07:39 PM
Apr 2012

This was a very big event at the time. An outrage. And very sad, indeed. So many progressives were outraged...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
51. well, you are good. It's more fun to piece it all together and come up with the right answer!
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 07:45 PM
Apr 2012

Thanks for being good, steve! I appreciate it!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
47. On #5. Think more about your literary history on this one...
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 07:40 PM
Apr 2012

altho the actual history is pretty awful...

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
57. All men kill the thing they love...
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 08:22 PM
Apr 2012

After long and fruitless waiting I have determined to write to you myself, as much for your sake as for mine, as I would not like to think that I had passed through two long years of imprisonment without ever having received a single line from you, or any news or message even, except such as gave me pain ...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
82. I was wondering if the architecture gave it away, Plus the Stonehenge-y looking thing to the
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 09:09 AM
Apr 2012

left of the building...that said to me "Britain" when I was looking around for a good image for Reading...

How did you put this together...

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
84. I'm a little embarrassed to walk you through it, because it shows how much time I spend on these...
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 09:32 AM
Apr 2012

...on the other hand, it's a lot of fun, and I look forward to it every Friday.

Looking at it, I figured it was either a prison or a factory with the wall. Because of the other pictures and the OP title, I decided it was a prison instead of a factory.

The red brick dated it to mid- to late-Victorian times, although not necessarily England, I thought; a lot of countries on the Continent built with red brick as well.

The ruin at the left side made me think of England, although possibly Germany as well, the way both countries like to leave historic ruins out where people can see them.

So then I've gotten it down to a prison in England. Here I was stumped for a bit. There are lots of famous prisons in England, so I googled a lot of them (I know you say no googling, but there comes a point where I have to check my work) by name -- the Maze, Newgate, Pentonville -- to see if they looked like this photo. Nope. Then I started wondering if this might be in Northern Ireland or Scotland, and checked some of those as well.

Then you gave the hint about "literary history," which is what broke it for me. In college, I took several courses in British literature (when I thought I would be an English major) but none, shockingly, in Victorian literature, so that is spotty for me. I googled (sorry, again) "prison literature" and bam, there it was: "Oscar Wilde wrote the philosophical essay 'De Profundis' while in Reading Gaol on charges of 'unnatural acts' and 'gross indecency' with other men."

I do know Oscar Wilde, but always think of him as Edwardian, which is obviously wrong, and so I felt silly when I looked back and couldn't come up with a Victorian writer who might be in prison. It seemed very obvious when I figured it out. BUT I had a great time on the trail. Thanks again for a lot of fun.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
85. The Googling you did was FINE! No problem. But there is another way of using Google
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 11:57 AM
Apr 2012

that really is finding the location of the image and then googling that. I just ask folks not to do that and then "guess" at the answer. Some people like to do it just to know the answer, but they are good and refrain from pretending to guess on the Challenge. Of course, I can't stop anyone from doing it anyway, but I find most DUers on my Challenges to be really honorable. I think it's more fun doing what you did. Getting one clue, then another and another...that's not cheating, it's research!

And besides, I can't stump DUers anyway. Ya'll are way too smart...

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
63. Brickbat gave away #5: Reading Gaol
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 10:22 PM
Apr 2012

The literary reference is to Oscar Wilde's De Profundis, his letter written (but never sent) to Lord Alfred Douglas during Wilde's imprisonment on indecency charges.

Credit for the solve goes to Brickbat on this one.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
64. Is #4 of Mary, Queen of Scots, praying....
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 10:47 PM
Apr 2012

right before she lost her head?

It's got to be either her or Lady Jane Grey, before she lost HER head! I don't believe that they had rooms quite like that in the Tower of London, so I'm going with Mary.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
67. CTYankee hinted that lots of bad things happened there. You're at least
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 10:50 PM
Apr 2012

on the right track, I think. I was looking for something about a nun!

justabob

(3,069 posts)
68. I think it is French Revolution...
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 10:53 PM
Apr 2012

Marie Antionette maybe? Totally grasping at straws now. I love these threads.

justabob

(3,069 posts)
70. This is the only Challenge thread I have done well on.... ever
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 10:56 PM
Apr 2012

These last two are killing me though.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
73. Aw, I knew it had to be a Catholic...Marie Antoinette was third on my list!
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:23 PM
Apr 2012

and I was thinking the Bastille, rather than the Conciergerie.

Damn! I can never get any of these right.

justabob

(3,069 posts)
75. you got closer than anyone else
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:43 PM
Apr 2012

I guessed... you actually know stuff You had the scenario mostly right.... queen awaiting beheading.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
81. I'd love to know what gave it away!
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 09:03 AM
Apr 2012

While I was active politically back then I had totally forgotten about the bombing of La Moneda. Had you remembered or did something in the photo give it away?

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
87. I'll tell you what my thinking was:
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 12:23 PM
Apr 2012

The sign with the E and a slash through it made me think it was in a Spanish-speaking country. ("Parking" in Spanish is something like estacionamiento, so the E with a slash means "no parking.&quot

Also, you said that most DUers were alive at the time, which put it in the 60s or 70s, but I really had no idea what this was, which probably ruled out the 80s or the 90s.

I did a little poking around in the history of Spain and I couldn't find an event that seemed right. Also, somehow it looked more like South America than Central America, which ruled out a lot of civil unrest.

You also said that it was an event that a lot of progressives were very upset by, and the big thing that came to my mind was the ouster of Allende.

I looked it up, and sure enough that was it.

So there was some logic and some guesswork.

I'm so happy to have gotten one right!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
88. I wondered about that sign since I didn't know what it meant (altho I suspected "no parking").
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 12:27 PM
Apr 2012

I honestly had forgotten that Allende committed suicide in that building til I read about it the NYT Magazine a few weeks ago. That's how I got the idea for a "Notorious" thread.

Also, I have a lot of time on my hands as a retiree

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
78. Everybody did so well!
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 12:22 AM
Apr 2012

#2 is indeed la moneda during the overthrow of Allende (perhaps taken while he was committing suicide, alas).

#4 is Marie Antoinette in the Palais de Justice and #5 is Reading Gaol.

Hope you all had fun with this!

No Challenge next week as I will be out of town. But I'll be back in 2 weeks with another puzzler that I hope you will find "interesting."

Till then, folks, and thanks for playing!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
79. Thanks for another Friday Torture...I mean, Challenge
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 12:28 AM
Apr 2012

We'll miss you next week, but I guess we could all just sit around and waterboard each other until your return...

Have a good trip and hurry back, CTyankee!

blaze

(6,374 posts)
83. Thanks for these CT!
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 09:31 AM
Apr 2012

I usually just lurk in this weekly fun. I rarely have a clue, but the pics, guesses, hints and info provided keep me coming back week after week!

Safe travels!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
86. I'm glad you have fun! That's what I want folks to have.
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 12:05 PM
Apr 2012

Also, when I do the art, I love the conversations we have. People share their experiences with a work of art I am showing and I just love reading them! Plus, I learn a lot too.

And, DUers are amazingly smart...

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
90. Thanks, this one was fun, and interesting.
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 12:48 PM
Apr 2012

Although I got none of them right, it was fun watching people provide clues and then solving them.

IcyPeas

(21,910 posts)
91. after looking at no. 4 for so long...
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 12:49 PM
Apr 2012

I have grown to like it in an eerie sort of way. so the wallpaper is French after all. LOL

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
92. I went to the Carnevalet (museum of the history of Paris) last year and saw several
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 01:59 PM
Apr 2012

re-enactments of people awaiting trials and the guillotine in their cells. It was kind of eerie, as you say. This photo reminds me of them. That wallpaper gives me the creeps...

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