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Florida abandons clean energy: State votes to gut efficiency goals and end rooftop solar rebates
Regulators gave traditional utilities "virtually everything they wanted"
LINDSAY ABRAMS
While the world moves forward in negotiations to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, Florida just made an outrageous leap backwards. Regulators voted last week to nearly entirely gut the states energy efficiency goals by over 90 percent and to allow its solar rebate program to expire.
The proposals to roll back these rules were backed by three of the states four major utilities Duke Energy Florida, Tampa Electric and Florida Power & Light which, according to the Tampa Tribune, argued that programs offering rebates for things like rooftop solar panels or energy efficient water heaters were costing them millions, forcing them to increase energy rates for everyone while only a few benefitted.
But the 3-2 decision by the state Public Service Commission to approve those proposals, notes the Tampa Bay Times, gave the investor-owned companies, which are increasingly threatened by renewables, virtually everything they wanted.
http://www.salon.com/2014/12/01/florida_abandons_clean_energy_state_votes_to_gut_efficiency_goals_and_end_rooftop_solar_rebates/
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)LonePirate
(13,426 posts)Either the writer is an idiot or these companies/regulators are crooks or both of these are true.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)The big problem with eco-friendly energy-sources is that they produce electricity at many small spots and in an unregulated manner. That's a nightmare because all this electricity has to be added up into one constant voltage and that takes A LOT of electronic regulation-mechanisms.
And the old electricity-grids simply don't have all those steering-mechanisms because they were never needed when all the electricity came from only one source.
That's why Germany will need more long-range transmission lines the more it switches to decentralized power production.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)LP2K12
(885 posts)would punish those who wish to harness solar energy.
Why do I live here?
Baitball Blogger
(46,737 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,737 posts)Florida is a massive cesspool of political corruption and will remain that way because too many of their voters are easily persuaded by right-wing messaging. Too much collective knee-jerking and not enough personal investment in learning the facts.
summerschild
(725 posts)I keep reading about Florida and shaking my head, "What's wrong with these people?"
The most obvious seems to escape them.
How could anyone vote for Rick Scott? He's a crook and everyone knows it (should know it!)
Their politicians are squandering the citizens' health and lives. They are selling their financial futures - - - on and on it goes. WAKE UP, FLORIDA!
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Don't forget that Crist was the Gov who signed the bill allowing Progress (Duke) to charge ratepayers for the plant that won't be built.
In a previous life as Atty. Gen., he was known as "Chain Gang Charlie", for his affinity for forced labor prisons.
When your choice is between 2 assholes, an asshole is gonna win every time.
summerschild
(725 posts)Bandit
(21,475 posts)It doesn't seem to matter what Party they claim at the time they all appear to be assholes. That is why America is in the shape it is. Why bother to vote at all? That seems to be the question the great majority of Americans are asking themselves, and their answer is they don't vote...I certainly can find no real reason to blame them..
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)And needless to say the voters heard what they wanted to
hear and made their preferences known on Election Day.
LP2K12
(885 posts)My TECO and Withlacoochee River Electric Cooperative bills were almost 30% higher than what I pay Duke.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)They'll be dead anyway before anything drastic happens. All they care about is saving $5 on their monthly energy bill.
SylviaD
(721 posts)To some people, saving a few dollars a month is significant. It's not that they don't have concern for the environment. And saying "they will be dead before anything drastic happens" applies to you as well, unless you are planning to be sprightly in 2100, around the time when the really bad stuff starts to happen.
Maybe you should look in a mirror before you start declaring that other people "don't give a shit" about things.
How about we work to make renewable energy alernatives affordable to the poor? Instead of demonizing those who are elderly and lack the means to welcome expensive green energy?
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)You mean like having a rebate program? Oh, wait...they just let that lapse.
SylviaD
(721 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)sakabatou
(42,158 posts)Takket
(21,578 posts)Maybe Disney should start planning a Venice addition to Epcot's Italy pavilion, since it will be underwater soon enough.
spinbaby
(15,090 posts)Disney seems to own half the state anyway and certainly can't do any worse running it. Reminds me of a book I read years ago about the Disney invasion. It was called Team Rodent, I think.
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)I just hope their population moves to similarly awful state once it's underwater.
riversedge
(70,243 posts)our electric bills just got raised--in the issue of fairness for those who use solar energy.
Your $322 Walker rebate headed for new gas, electricity taxes, fees. @govWalker/CliveBundy '16! -JSOnline http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/purple-wisconsin/282817031.html
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322 Walker rebate headed for new gas, electricity taxes, fees....
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Ah, your $322. Remember all that dough you were getting back in tax savings from Daddy Walker Warbucks?
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Your $322 Walker rebate headed for new gas, electricity taxes, fees. Walker '16!
By James Rowen
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Ah, your $322. Remember all that dough you were getting back in tax savings from Daddy Walker Warbucks?
Scott Walker bought a lot of votes for $322, and asked you what you planned on doing with it.
Well, now we know where some of it's going next year.
To higher electric rates, as ordered by his Public Service Commission.
And, in one form or another - - higher prices at the gas pump and other 'transportation' taxes or fees - - to the politically-connected, well-oiled road-building-and-trucking machine to widen more highways though driving is on the decline.
Next up: $1 billion + for the added I-94 lanes, ramps, bridges and walls over and through Milwaukee's West side, cemeteries and Story Hill's border.
Details about Walker's new surtaxes, here.
No coincidence that this is taking place after the election.
Just as Walker's Act 10 got rolled out after the 2010 election. How long before these new taxes and fees are labeled and spun as "modest," or even" progressive"? Or a boon to "flexibility?"
Walker is taking back your alleged tax savings, and plans on cutting back transit funding, too - - so fares will go up and hit students, seniors and millennials without cars the hardest.
Do the Walkerites seriously think this is the way to attract young people to the state, or to keep them around after they graduate from college?
Defund transit, add an extra $50 tax on hybrid and electric car owners, to be penalized for trying to do the right thing, use less gasoline, keep the air cleaner and reduce climate change greenhouse gas emissions - - all in line with national priorities?
riversedge
(70,243 posts)night. She included AZ--seems same thing is happening.
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)in this fashion. It should be an alternative energy stronghold with the abundant sunshine and some of the steadiest offshore winds on the East Coast. There's talk of planning an offshore wind farm but in general there seems to be little enthusiasm for any alternative energy.