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meegbear

(25,438 posts)
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 04:47 PM Dec 2014

It's amazing what people believe on Facebook



The picture on the left is making the rounds and people are freaking out about it. The one on the right is the real photo (which I found doing a quick google search).

You'd think people could see and realize the first one is a bad photoshop, but you'd be mistaken. I guess believe what they want to believe.


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It's amazing what people believe on Facebook (Original Post) meegbear Dec 2014 OP
K&R abelenkpe Dec 2014 #1
some people believed it because it suited them to believe it. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2014 #2
yep saw this posted by a friend... left_of_center Dec 2014 #3
Actually, I think it was worse lolly Dec 2014 #31
oh yes... left_of_center Dec 2014 #37
lauthan should have been shot given this logic instead of a gop roguevalley Dec 2014 #36
Some people are driven by hate and ignorance. lpbk2713 Dec 2014 #4
alot of fools in America thought Forest Gump was a documentary olddots Dec 2014 #5
It was a documentary... HubertHeaver Dec 2014 #30
Not a chance. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #32
Yes, the Forrest character did tend toward human decency. HubertHeaver Dec 2014 #42
confirmation bias phantom power Dec 2014 #6
I certainly wouldn't realise that. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #7
Besides the fact that it's nonsensical? Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2014 #8
...you think that the fact that the slogan on it is dumb is evidence it's photshopped? Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #10
Not that dumb. nt Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2014 #19
I know a bad photoshop job when I see it RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #21
Not accurate. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #34
Exactly what I noticed. MoonchildCA Dec 2014 #38
The message on the sign on the left is what gives it away. Iggo Dec 2014 #12
A sentiment convenient to ideologues of hate yet rare to the common man... LanternWaste Dec 2014 #13
In a nation of 350,000,000 people? Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #14
Most of the letters are copies of letters above them upaloopa Dec 2014 #17
The letters are copied from letters above them upaloopa Dec 2014 #18
... Chiyo-chichi Dec 2014 #20
Ok, on the technical level (leaving aside the content)... JHB Dec 2014 #23
Aha, thank you. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #24
It's a two step process. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2014 #25
Most outrageously crazy signs are just written by outrageously crazy people. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #26
For me, I pretty quickly came to the conclusion it was a PS job this way... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #41
'memba this? Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2014 #9
ack! i never saw that one. nt m-lekktor Dec 2014 #15
wish I could rec this n/t marym625 Dec 2014 #35
This makes my heart sink. ~nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #39
horrible appalachiablue Dec 2014 #11
Some letters are copied but the B is not upaloopa Dec 2014 #16
The "B" is an alteration of a copied letter. Compare it to the "R" in "HER"... JHB Dec 2014 #40
People buy Deepak Chopra books and list Ben Carson as their top choice for president in 2016 Johonny Dec 2014 #22
So many many suckers Kelvin Mace Dec 2014 #27
People see what they want to see... NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #28
But but but..."it could've happened"/"FIFY" say the suckers nt alp227 Dec 2014 #29
The photoshopping is so obvious Helen Keller could see it. hifiguy Dec 2014 #33
 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
2. some people believed it because it suited them to believe it.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 04:50 PM
Dec 2014

its easier to think that black people are responsible for their own oppression rather than admit to the role the rest of us play in it.

 

left_of_center

(87 posts)
3. yep saw this posted by a friend...
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 04:56 PM
Dec 2014

Yes, the "logic" that (suspected) shoplifters should be shot down in the street (especially if they are black) - this is all they can glean from the situation. Amazing indeed.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
31. Actually, I think it was worse
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:20 PM
Dec 2014

The FBF whose posting I saw seemed to think that "those people" expect to be able to rob stores with impunity.

When I posted the un-retouched photo in her comment section, she just noted that that was "even better" with eye-rollers.

?????

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
36. lauthan should have been shot given this logic instead of a gop
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:33 PM
Dec 2014

Job. I think that was her name, the tool who slandered the Obama kids. She left home to commit crimes too.

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
4. Some people are driven by hate and ignorance.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 04:56 PM
Dec 2014



That would be the only explanation why some idiot would go to
the trouble it would require to make that kind of a Photoshop.
Probably had Limbaugh or Faux playing in the background while
they were working on it.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
5. alot of fools in America thought Forest Gump was a documentary
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 05:03 PM
Dec 2014

Sickening how a scumbag with no skills and a computer can destroy civilization one shot at a time .

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
30. It was a documentary...
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:05 PM
Dec 2014

Of GW Bush's life. (With poetic license. GW didn't actually go to RVN.)





for the impaired...

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
7. I certainly wouldn't realise that.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 05:06 PM
Dec 2014

The script looks a pretty good match, although having been told that it's a photoshop the fact that it gets narrower is suspicious.

What gives away that it's a photoshop?

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
10. ...you think that the fact that the slogan on it is dumb is evidence it's photshopped?
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 05:21 PM
Dec 2014

If so, go and google "protest sign".

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
21. I know a bad photoshop job when I see it
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 05:38 PM
Dec 2014

And that one is one.
You can see in the last two lines of text, it is not completely whited out. There is a pattern on the lower right side of the sign that repeats. The R, S, and T are not consistent with the other R, S, and T in the upper part of the sign.
When you look at a lot of this stuff, it's not that hard to peg a bad one.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
34. Not accurate.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:30 PM
Dec 2014

The 'R' in the bottom is copied/pasted from the 'R' in "HER", the 'S' in the bottom is copied/pasted from the 'S' in "SHOULD" (Used in both "ROBS" and "STORE&quot , and the 'T' in the bottom is copied/pasted from the 'T' in "TIME".

Also, the graininess of the photo is a great giveaway.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. A sentiment convenient to ideologues of hate yet rare to the common man...
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 05:24 PM
Dec 2014

"What gives away that it's a photoshop?"

A sentiment convenient to ideologues of hate yet rare to the common man...

Chiyo-chichi

(3,581 posts)
20. ...
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 05:35 PM
Dec 2014

The smeary blobs in the white space on both sides of “robs a store” are artifacts from the original phrase being erased... by an amateur who didn't know what he was doing.

Yeah, the letters match the handwriting elsewhere in the sign… because apart from the “B” they are pulled from elsewhere in the sign. The “R” is from the word “her.” Exact match. The “O” is from “should.” Exact match.

And, yes…. It is nonsensical.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
23. Ok, on the technical level (leaving aside the content)...
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 05:41 PM
Dec 2014

Compare the "S"s in "ROBS" and "STORE" to the "S" in "SHOULD", vs compared to other "S"s on the poster.

Likewise, compare the "R"s in "ROBS" and "STORE" to the one in "HER", vs. compared to other "R"s on the poster.

The actual shape of the letters varies in the natural (original) writing, but is identical to particular letters in the altered section.

They've been obviously copied and pasted, and everything else shows the same obvious signs, with very little "adjustment".

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
25. It's a two step process.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:48 PM
Dec 2014

First, you look at the content of the sign. If it sounds outrageously crazy, then you go to step two, and look for manipulations. Look to see if it appears certain letters are written exactly the same. Look to the spacing and the positioning of the words.

Here, it's pretty obvious given that the last two lines of text in the manipulated sign are far narrower than the rest of the lines, for no particular reason.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
26. Most outrageously crazy signs are just written by outrageously crazy people.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:50 PM
Dec 2014

It's easier to write a slogan onto a sign than to photoshop it.

What does, arguably, make this one suspicious is that it's a slogan more likely to have been written by a white man, on a sign being held up by a black one. But there are 350,000,000 people in the USA, including several million black right-wingers.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
41. For me, I pretty quickly came to the conclusion it was a PS job this way...
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 09:07 AM
Dec 2014

1. The slogan is racist tripe bringing it's legitimacy into question, so that made me look closely at the words that made it such.
2. A sign maker would likely remain consistent with margins. There seems to be no particular reason why the writer would suddenly leave margin space on the bottom two lines rather than fit all of the words onto one line.
3. So where did the writing for those lines come from? Many of the letters are direct copy and paste of the same letter as it appears previously on the sign. People have consistent handwriting in general, but not that technically consistent within a single document.

It's just a matter of having a "huh?" moment and refocusing attention to details. Some people do that inately, some people have to train themselves, some people see it when pointed out to them, and some just never develop that ability....i.e. willful ignorance because it fits their frame.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
40. The "B" is an alteration of a copied letter. Compare it to the "R" in "HER"...
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 10:25 PM
Dec 2014

They just replaced the "slated leg" with a copy of the loop.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
22. People buy Deepak Chopra books and list Ben Carson as their top choice for president in 2016
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 05:38 PM
Dec 2014

so it's hard to be amazed that there are suckers in this world buying the dumb ideas that they want to hear. If it didn't work then Rupert Murdoch would just another fish wrap peddler in Australia.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
33. The photoshopping is so obvious Helen Keller could see it.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:26 PM
Dec 2014

I now wonder whether national reserves of gullibility exceed those of stupidity or if it's the other way around.

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