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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:51 PM Dec 2014

How reliable is police testimony? (Video re Tamir Brown)

Hint: there are inconsistiencies between what they say and the video shows.

What Tim Wise has to say about it (from Facebook): "These cops -- like most all cops involved in shootings -- are liars. These, thankfully, can be proven as such because the video makes it clear (as with the killing of John Crawford at Walmart). Anyone who doesn't support the indictment and conviction of these murderers is simply a racist whose hatred of black males leads them to justify anything done by police to black people. Any cop who defends this shooting should be fired as well. They are not competent to serve. Time to clean house in department after department across America. I'm talking mass purges of racist cops and the creation of democratically elected boards in communities to have control over who will and will not police in their neighborhoods."

http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/how-reliable-is-police-testimony--365827139616

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How reliable is police testimony? (Video re Tamir Brown) (Original Post) gollygee Dec 2014 OP
even the apologists noiretextatique Dec 2014 #1
Yet, some try. They may as well have a white hooded dunce cap made of cop taint but they try. TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #3
LOL...great idea noiretextatique Dec 2014 #5
I had an ol' lawyer friend of mine who practiced criminal law for 60 years. He used to say demosincebirth Dec 2014 #2
and only one is expected to lie. obxhead Dec 2014 #8
he didn't say that. demosincebirth Dec 2014 #10
I can only speak from a single experience, Maedhros Dec 2014 #4
We need laws that make making false statements in police reports Mr.Bill Dec 2014 #6
We have plenty of laws now Kelvin Mace Dec 2014 #7
Not necessary to say sorry Mr.Bill Dec 2014 #9
To me.. mvd Dec 2014 #11
also, the tape does not match their statement noiretextatique Dec 2014 #12

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
5. LOL...great idea
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 08:49 PM
Dec 2014

for a new emoticon i've seen a few "he did not comply" posts, but even they have to admit it is hard to comply in 1.5 seconds. and the cops lied. they claimed there was a group of people at the table, but the video tell a different story. they also claimed they issued 3 warnings, and the video proves that unlikely also.

demosincebirth

(12,540 posts)
2. I had an ol' lawyer friend of mine who practiced criminal law for 60 years. He used to say
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 08:15 PM
Dec 2014

"there are only two types of people who lie in court, under oath...criminals and cops."

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
4. I can only speak from a single experience,
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 08:34 PM
Dec 2014

but I observed two police officers directly counter each others' testimony on the stand.

Police officers are just as likely to lie as anyone else.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
7. We have plenty of laws now
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 10:54 PM
Dec 2014

one more we will never charge then with won't help.

Sorry, not busting your chops, it's just that every time I think I cannot get any more cynical, I am proven wrong.

mvd

(65,174 posts)
11. To me..
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 03:19 AM
Dec 2014

This seems like even worse judgment than in the Brown case. He was a 12-year-old on a playground and they had to start shooting right away? They will probably weasel themselves into a thought it was a real gun defense, but if cops were given the correct amount of scrutiny, that excuse wouldn't work well. I think we need to stop holding cops to such a high standard of guilt.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
12. also, the tape does not match their statement
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:38 PM
Dec 2014

The tape proves their statement is false. But cops get away with this all the time. If anyone is still confused about the terms white privilege and institutional racism...

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