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I am so sorry we're going through this again.
White older woman weighing in. SUCKS!
LeftInTX
(25,563 posts)And I add: I'm so sick of racists
babylonsister
(171,094 posts)Pamela L Gay
Be loud. #BlackLivesMatter RT @CandisLynnT: #timesquare action #Justice4EricGarner #whitesilence = #whiteconsent
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http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/03/racists-shoot-us-they-walk-away-free/
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KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)any longer! I saw another good sign on the Livestream tonight that said simply "Enough is enough!"
Cha
(297,723 posts)Do we follow each other on twitter?
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Anyone hear the background on the officer that shot the 12 year old?
He should never have been hired as a cop, after his first job as a cop.
babylonsister
(171,094 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)#ThisStopsToday
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Proves the exact same point, without too much focus on just one group of people.
babylonsister
(171,094 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)But the truth is, though, police brutality is a problem that can affect anyone; just look at what happened to a lot of the Occupy folks back in 2011/12, and '13.
I apologize if my point was stated poorly, however, and some got the impression that we should stop focusing on AA's, period.....that was not the intention.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)you really should understand why we have to say #BlackLivesMatter
sheshe2
(83,928 posts)Yes all lives matter.
However black men are being gunned down a an alarming rate. And the murdering cops are not being held accountable. Just stop and wake up and open your eyes. White men walk away from their crimes, black men are shot dead with deadly force. Your posts are rather ugly and outright wrong.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Yes, AAs are indeed gunned down at an alarming rate. The reason I posted that, however, was that some folks out there may not get the bigger picture, and I assure you that this was a 100% genuine though process.
JI7
(89,276 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Yeah, I know we may sometimes be tempted to go into "us vs. them" mode.....hell, I've probably been guilty of that myself, I must admit.....but I'm afraid we're not doing ourselves by stating, "oh, person A must not get point B, therefore they must certainly be C(racist/misogynist/etc.)." isn't doing us any favors. The truth is, a lot of people out there don't get it, not because they hate and/or fear black people, or Latinos, or whatever, it's because they live in a bubble of sorts. They just don't know what to think, period. And that's why I myself place so much emphasis on education on the issues.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)And I'm not the only one who recognizes that, so.....
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)Hahaha
marym625
(17,997 posts)You are turning a "we stand here for you. We support you" into "so what if the statistics show that a black person being abused or killed by cops or in custody are astronomically greater than what happens to white people. White people deserve as much attention. Fuck Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, VanDerrit Myers, Akai Gurley, etc etc etc. "
A black man is killed by cops every 28 hours in this country.
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/1-black-man-killed-every-28-hours-police-or-vigilantes-america-perpetually-war-its
Mother Jones has a great article with the best statistics available. We find out:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/police-shootings-ferguson-race-data
You are part of the problem
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Perhaps I can be a little too pragmatically minded for my own good, I dunno. As I said earlier:
Yes, AAs are indeed gunned down at an alarming rate. The reason I posted that, however, was that some folks out there may not get the bigger picture.....
So, yes, I'm sorry you got a bad impression, but I wasn't trying to make the point that you thought I was. Hope this clears things up a little.
marym625
(17,997 posts)But we all know police brutality exists for everyone. To bring it up, to diminish the mantra, "black lives matter" at this time especially, is just wrong.
There's a time and a place for everything. This is the time to show support, solidarity with our black brothers and sisters.
When you have to worry about your young son being gunned down by cops, every time he walks out the door, then say it.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Having reconsidered this, perhaps this wasn't the best time to offer said suggestion, no matter how well-intention it was. Thank you for helping me see another point of view.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Seriously.
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)I will respect how you wish to be referred. But that is not a universal preferred reference among African Americans.
I meant no offense.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"was that some folks out there may not get the bigger picture..."
Precisely who? Or is your entire premise based merely on editorial and supposition...?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)You understand the point being made, you don't need to pick and chip away at it for the sake of ego.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Essentially you're making the whole affair about you.
again, you say you get the point. Then just get the point and stand with it, man. Don't go trying to school people with your - in your estimation - "superior notions."
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Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)You say you get it. I'm inclined to believe you. If it is "gotten" then there's no real need to demand it be changed on your say-so. Just keep getting it.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)It's just that the way you phrased things in that last post really didn't come off well, sorry to say. I'll go ahead and take back what I said.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Your only problem with rights for blacks is that there's not enough attention given to whites.
Your only problem with rights for women is that there's not enough attention given to men.
Your only problem with rights for Trobriand islanders is that there's not enough attention given to Americans.
Anything that you're not the center of is a threat to your tiny, tiny ego.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Thanks for proving how white privilege degrades and dismisses the realities of POC in the name of "equality".
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)that is getting killed more?
What do you think? This is so tone deaf that it makes me embarrassed for you.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)Can there be one movement or one protest that focuses in on the single most oppressed group in America?
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)sheshe2
(83,928 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Michael Nida - Unarmed shot multiple times in the back by a downey cop after he tried to run away
Douglas Zerby - Cops snuck up on him and blew him away without warning just because he was holding a water nozzle.
John Winkler - Stabbed then gunned down by deputies as he was trying to flee his attacker
Frank Mendoza - Gunned down by deputies as he was trying to flee an armed parolee that had just broke into his home
Brian Beaird - Gunned down by LAPD cops as he was surrendering with his hands up.
Jose de la Trinidad - Unarmed and shot 7 times in the back by deputies
Jason Conoscenti - Unarmed, shot multiple times in the back as he was running away. His murder was captured on video.
Just to name a few...
ALL LIVES MATTER!
Police brutality is out of control.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)this one is about AfAm lives
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Old white woman so sorry.
But not again. Still. Only difference is social media
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025907898
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)Just heard Al Sharpton exciting a group by demanding that the Attorney General do something about the situation.
Won't do any good if they all ask and go to Washington, every black in the US.
Why? Because the majority of politicians only pay attention to blacks a month before any election. Then, nara.
Also, if Holden or Obama do anything to help them, the blacks will be ridiculed as being taken care of by their own kind. Not a good situation. Especially when there are plenty of whites who don't approve of a lot of police and courtroom tactics...who should do something about it.
Whites must involve themselves and demand equal and fair treatment from the law for Blacks and Hispanics, Muslims, whoever.... Whites contribute the most to their campaigns, so the politicians cater to them. If whites want fair treatment for blacks, they should sign petitions, send emails, write letters, and be sure to say, "I am WHITE." It'll make the elected ones sit up and pay attention....not asking for favored treatment, just EQUAL treatment.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Mother Jones has a great article with the best statistics available. We find out:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/police-shootings-ferguson-race-data
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Flatulo
(5,005 posts)Nothing less will elevate this problem in the mind of the public.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)The fucking Republican hack blowjob artists are going to be too busy contemplating suing Obama over his last Executive Order concerning immigration reform, investigating Benghazi, overturning or defunding Obamacare, limiting access to the internet, defunding parts of the Homeland Security Department, increasing income taxes on the middle class, lowering income taxes on the wealthy and corporations, and trying to get to the final round of Dancing With the Stars.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Growing up I was constantly accused of "making excuses" and "being lazy", any explanation I gave for my problems was dismissed as just more excuses for being lazy. I suspect this is very similar to what people of color go through when their own experiences are degraded and dismissed.
logosoco
(3,208 posts)I am feeling powerless. I got an old achy body and no money.
But, I have a computer. My new year will begin with writing emails and PAPER letters. I am working on a few (it's hard because they end up being emotional). It may not be much, but it is what I can do.
Somehow i was under the impression that raising smart and caring children would change the world. I think all that did was confuse my kids now that they are seeing the world as adults.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...I had you pegged for a black woman in her thirties.
I've been on DU for a long time and I'm always surprised when I find out someone's personal information. I usually have an idea in my head of who someone is... I'm almost always wrong on gender... and age.
k+r
Black. Lives. Matter.
TYY
marym625
(17,997 posts)Thought it was just me.