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Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 01:40 PM Dec 2014

One woman, 30 years later might be brushed off

I'm not saying she SHOULD be brushed off, but it could, and often does, happen and a sexual predator could get away with it.

But when more than twenty women come forward, it is overwhelming. I can only assume some police authority is involved in looking back at the allegations.

In my own mind, Cosby is almost certainly guilty of what woman after woman is alleging happened.

I think Gloria Alred's call for him to fund $100M to repay victims seen as credible by a panel of retired judges.

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Geoff R. Casavant

(2,381 posts)
2. I doubt any law enforcement investigation at all.
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 03:16 PM
Dec 2014

As far as I can tell, all of the cases that have recently come to light concern actions from decades ago -- far past the limitations period for most of them, and of the rest, without physical evidence it would not be feasible to prosecute further.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
3. I believe he may have raped
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 05:07 PM
Dec 2014

but all these years later nothing can be proved, and it sounds to me like a bunch of women who would like to get in on that $100,000,000. JMHO.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
8. Do we have to
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 07:52 PM
Dec 2014

ALWAYS take the word of the women, in the complete absence of proof? Remember the days when CW was that children "never" lie about sexual abuse--until we found out that, yes, they do lie, and they can be manipulated into twisting the truth. In the meantime, many, many lives were ruined--businesses were lost, people went to prison, many others lived out the remainder of their lives under a cloud of suspicion.

Rape allegations are serious, and unless an accusation is made in a timely manner, and there is some proof--any proof--I think we should fall back on "innocent until proven guilty."

If BC raped anyone ever he is pure scum. But there is no proof, and there is no reason to believe any single one of these women all these years later.

Besides, I've never really understood how $$$$$$ can make the hurt go away.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
10. nope, YOU can't find a reason to believe them. Thankfully, the majority of people can comprehend
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 08:05 PM
Dec 2014

why their claims are very credible.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
5. Yeah, the thought that maybe now, after years of not being listened to when they make the
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 06:00 PM
Dec 2014

allegations, they finally feel safe enough to be heard is why these women are doing this...that thought never entered your head, right? It's all about some gold-digging hussies, right?

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
7. And--
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 07:47 PM
Dec 2014

due process means nothing to you? someone can make allegations 30 years after the crime occurred, with no physical evidence, thereby making a defense, including an alibi, next to impossible to prove, and we are supposed to believe her??

Fine, I said he MAY have done it (and we still have the presumption of innocence until PROVEN guilty, right?) but as long as these women have their hands out looking for big bucks, why should we take their word for it? I'm more likely to believe them if they say they want to forego the payoff for an admission of guilt and/or an apology.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
9. You are purposely refusing to understand this situation...
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 07:54 PM
Dec 2014

The vast majority of these women came forward at the time...it was hushed up...many of them actually testified as Jane Does in one case...stop being purposely ignorant of this situation. Besides, your first response was to balme the victims...and that is disgusting, so don't get all holier than thou with me about due effing process.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
12. Never blamed the victims
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 08:10 PM
Dec 2014

Just don't understand how genuine their pain can be if the right amount of money can make it all better.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
11. Bullshit. We are not in a court of law, and likely will not be soon. Sounds like you revel in the
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 08:07 PM
Dec 2014

knowledge these women you are painting as gold diggers can never get justice. That shit is creepy.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
14. We were both discussing the court of law- which is not here at DU, and never going to punish him....
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 08:13 PM
Dec 2014

and where people get justice. hope that helps, because no one said the payment is any kind of justice.

Although you did imply these women were just out for the money. :barf:

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
16. LOL, go on with your mission to prove he only raped 15 -16 of the 20 women, because catching
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 08:26 PM
Dec 2014

a woman or two in a lie is your big priority here. That says all we need to know.

Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
17. Yo, String . . . . .
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:13 AM
Dec 2014

. . . . . it seems the LAPD is in conversations with at least one of these "gold diggers".

By the way, your intimation that these women are gold diggers is beyond disgusting. What's next? Comments about what they may have been wearing?

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
18. I said he probably did rape one or more
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:27 PM
Dec 2014

of these women. Maybe not all of them. Can't prove who or how many at this point. Think he should take their word for it, and pay them all off? Do you still believe that the Duke lacrosse "victim" was raped? How about Jackie at UVA?

I have the deepest empathy and compassion for any rape victim--and not one scintilla for anyone who fabricates allegations, for whatever reason. Their actions just make people skeptical of other rape claims, and make it harder for actual victims to ever get justice.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
6. In what mythical alternate reality would Cosby
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 06:09 PM
Dec 2014

voluntarily give up $100 million when he could spend 10% of that amount on attorneys to run interference for the remainder of his life?

Unless the $100m has the guarantee that Cosby is completely absolved from any further legal liability or responsibility, and there is a gag order on the victims and judicial panel...

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