Hayden: Torture "created this Home-Depot-like warehouse of knowledge about al Qaeda"

[IDemo]

Former CIA Director Michael Hayden said interrogation tactics revealed in a report released by the Senate on Tuesday were not legally torture, but "we knew as bad as these people were we were doing this to fellow human beings."

In its report, the Senate Intelligence Committee determined that CIA interrogation techniques, employed for days or weeks at a time, never led to "imminent threat" intelligence — the figurative ticking time bomb often cited as justification. In some cases, the means were counterproductive, according to the report.

But Hayden, director from 2006-2009 under former President George W. Bush, disputed that finding.

"Information gained from this program, and from detainees was absolutely part of the fabric of information that the agency used to go after Osama Bin Laden," he told NBC News' Brian Williams on Nightly News Tuesday. "Frankly, in my experience, we learned so much from these people. It kind of created this Home-Depot-like warehouse of knowledge about al Qaeda to which we continually referred."

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/cia-torture-report/former-cia-chief-hayden-legally-its-not-torture-n265156

[Solly Mack]

1. If I engaged in torture or the promotion of torture I would defend it too.

And I would deny my actions were torture. I'd redefine torture as something less sinister...like "enhanced interrogation techniques".

I'd have to defend it. I'd have to call it something else.

Otherwise, I'm guilty of torture.

[madokie]

11. That is exactly it

[MannyGoldstein]

2. He is crazy. nt

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

5. As in sociopathic asshole? Sure. nt

[KingCharlemagne]

12. Some times even satire fails, eh? Hayden is no more crazy than

one of his illustrious but banal predecessors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Eichmann

[Major Hogwash]

3. Hayden has a Walmart-sized walnut up his ass!!

His head!!

That ginormous fucking egomaniac thinks the universe revolves around him!!

[Fred Drum]

6. Home Depot

i'm thinking of building a rectal feeding room, which isle is that in?

[newfie11]

7. I'm sure we got all kinds of info NOT

Look at all the people that were turned in for a $ bounty paid by us.

I thought we were the good guys in WW11 boy have we fallen!!!!

SADLY there will be no trials.

[bemildred]

8. Priceless.

The former director of the CIA asserting that "forced rectal feeding" is essential to the security of the USA.

[Skidmore]

9. Hayden

Right up there with Cheney in my assessment of events. Hayden, those two psychologists, Cheney. Evil people of the worst sort. Those two psychologist particularly appall me. I worked for decades with very excellent psychologists who helped people with all sorts of issues. I cannot reconcile these two to what I know of the psychologists as professionals. These two are monsters.

[KingCharlemagne]

10. Someone please tell me again why President Obama and Atty. General Holder have

not prosecuted this Eichmann in our midst?

WTF??????????????????????????

[IDemo]

14. Obama said they "do a really tough job and they do it really well."

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/cia-torture-report/president-obama-cias-post-9-11-torture-was-contrary-who-n265276

[KingCharlemagne]

15. I'll let Charlie Pierce speak for me this morning:

I was not surprised by what Senator Dianne Feinstein read aloud on the Senate floor today, even though, behind every syllable of every word, a death knell sounded for the American idea. The concept of American exceptionalism based on anything as delicate as the rule of law -- in fact, any concept of American exceptionalism based on anything but brutish force -- has been rendered a sad and superannuated farce. Founding Fathers? Constitutional government? The bell has finally tolled for thee, motherfkers.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/The_Torture_Report_And_What_It_Says (Emphasis added)

This is from Part 1. All 3 parts are well worth the time. (Links at bottom of each piece to the next and\or preceding.)

[deutsey]

17. Thanks for the link.

[IDemo]

20. As usual, Charlie hits it out of the park

Anyone who still calls this "enhanced interrogation" is an idiot and a coward and I have no time for them.

[KingCharlemagne]

21. One of my colleagues with whom I used to vigil against the war at the Westwood Federal Building

carried a sign that said "Oppose U.S. Torture," starting in April of 2003. It was a simple, plain-spoken hand-written sign and I know I myself did not give it the attention it deserved at the time.

Then, Abu Ghraib broke in April of 2004.

My colleague -- Jerry -- committed suicide shortly thereafter and I've always wondered whether a part of what contributed to his despair was his sense that his warnings had gone unheeded. (He was living out of his truck at the time, so not sure what part homelessness may have played in his suicide.)

So, RIP Jerry. So long as I live, you shall always be remembered. But you deserve a monument in Washington, D.C.

[hatrack]

13. And just like Home Depot, no one knew anything, and you could never find anything

Nice analogy, you sociopathic asshole.

[GreatGazoo]

16. Oh, the irony....

[bullwinkle428]

18. I'm 1000% in opposition to the use of torture against any living creature,

but I might be willing to make an exception for this fucker.

[KingCharlemagne]

22. I'd settle for a war crimes tribunal. I wish I could say what I really

feel about this matter, but I'll simply say, "I hear you loud and clear, comrade!"

[spanone]

19. hayden can llie and whine all he wants....doesn't change facts

[Ichingcarpenter]

23. Power drills aisle 5, waterboards aisle 3

Plastic tubes for anal probes aisle 7, yeah no wonder he uses home depot.

[librechik]

24. I don't have words evil enough to describe that epaulette wearing moron

He deserves the worst punishment we could give him.