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Matariki

(18,775 posts)
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 02:24 PM Dec 2014

CIA ‘Torture’ Practices Started Long Before 9/11 Attacks

Not only is there never any accountability or consequences for these ghouls, but they get promotions and never seem to go away. Everyone in the US should read this article.

http://www.newsweek.com/cia-torture-practices-started-long-911-attacks-senate-report-notes-290746

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Retired Army Colonel James Steele, along with another retired army colonel, James H. Coffman, helped the Iraqi government set up police commando units and “worked...in detention centres that were set up with millions of dollars of U.S. funding,” the London-based Guardian newspaper and the BBC reported in a joint project in 2013.

Steele had been commander of the U.S. military advisory group in El Salvador during its 1980s civil war, a struggle remembered chiefly for the “death squads” the regime used against nuns and priests allied with the poor. Steele had previously been decorated for his service in South Vietnam as a U.S. Army reconnaissance patrol leader.

After Vietnam and El Salvador, Steele went on to work in Baghdad under General David Petraeus, according to the account by the Guardian and BBC. He took Coffman with him. Petraeus commanded CIA and military special ops groups working jointly against Al-Qaeda in Iraq. “They worked hand in hand,” an Iraqi general, Muntadher al-Samari, said of Steele and Coffman. “I never saw them apart in the 40 or 50 times I saw them inside the detention centres. They knew everything that was going on there...the torture, the most horrible kinds of torture.” Steele and Coffman could not be reached for comment.

“Every single detention centre would have its own interrogation committee,” added al-Samari, whose account was buttressed by others. “Each one was made up of an intelligence officer and eight interrogators. This committee [would] use all means of torture to make the detainee confess, like using electricity or hanging him upside down, pulling out their nails, and beating them on sensitive parts.”

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CIA ‘Torture’ Practices Started Long Before 9/11 Attacks (Original Post) Matariki Dec 2014 OP
Rec and kick. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #1
The CIA has been torturing people since 1947. n/t nichomachus Dec 2014 #2
Correct is right malaise Dec 2014 #3
Which is why it was so laughable when they pretended they didn't know waterboarding was torture. Solly Mack Dec 2014 #4
Yep. hifiguy Dec 2014 #5
and probably why 2naSalit Dec 2014 #6
After years of considering all the possible theories hifiguy Dec 2014 #7
Interesting scenario 2naSalit Dec 2014 #8
Check out Lamar Waldron's "Legacy of Secrecy." hifiguy Dec 2014 #9
I'll do that 2naSalit Dec 2014 #10

Solly Mack

(90,789 posts)
4. Which is why it was so laughable when they pretended they didn't know waterboarding was torture.
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 03:14 PM
Dec 2014

They wrote a book on torture but now, suddenly, they're confused?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. After years of considering all the possible theories
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 03:52 PM
Dec 2014

and reading more books than I care to count, I don't think the institutional CIA had anything to do with the assassination. It was blowback from the Bay of Pigs and involved leading Mafia figures who were a central part of the anti-Castro plots (which were started under the supervision of one Richard M. Nixon) and low-level CIA assets who had also been involved in those plots, in which the CIA and the Mob worked together. But the Mob had the last word and made the big decision.

2naSalit

(86,824 posts)
8. Interesting scenario
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 03:57 PM
Dec 2014

and just as plausible as any I might have to offer. But mine goes in the other direction giving the role of the "heavy" to the govt. agency with the blessings and some assistance from the private sector you mentioned.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
9. Check out Lamar Waldron's "Legacy of Secrecy."
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 04:02 PM
Dec 2014

He documents his theory in excruciating detail, with sources, including Carlos Marcello's prison statement that "we got that fucker Kennedy." Waldron is not a nut, he's a painstaking researcher and historian.

Not that the institutional CIA and the warhawks were at all sad to see JFK out of the picture. Quite the contrary.

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