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Missing your hypochondria from when Ebola was in the news? Drug resistant plague is here! (Original Post) Recursion Dec 2014 OP
Antibiotics in the third world are OTC Warpy Dec 2014 #1
Are they? Not here. Recursion Dec 2014 #2
India is trying, at least. Warpy Dec 2014 #3
Now that you mention it, I don't recall much of the annual flu shot hysteria so far. Too soon? merrily Dec 2014 #4
They've pretty much already announced it won't work this year Recursion Dec 2014 #5
Now that you mention it, I do recall hearing that. So, since no money is to be made merrily Dec 2014 #6
Plenty of the world washes their hands with sand. I actually did that for a while; no complaints Recursion Dec 2014 #10
Sand is not always handy, but that is a good additional tip. Thanks. nt merrily Dec 2014 #11
It helped that I was in the Mojave at the time (nt) Recursion Dec 2014 #12
You get around. Then again, there's also lots of sand around the pyramids of Gizeh. nt merrily Dec 2014 #14
You were a Marine, weren't you? nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #17
meanwhile, 50,000 indai indian babies have died of drug resistant bacteria infections. WHEEEEEE pansypoo53219 Dec 2014 #7
where's the hysterics on tv belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #8
Oh, just wait until a white person gets it (nt) Recursion Dec 2014 #9
A white American, at that. n/t Horse with no Name Dec 2014 #16
Did anybody else think it was odd that DU's ebola panic people and anti-vaxxers LeftyMom Dec 2014 #13
+1000! nt Logical Dec 2014 #15
No. I did not think that odd. Not at all. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #18

Warpy

(111,339 posts)
1. Antibiotics in the third world are OTC
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:17 AM
Dec 2014

and expensive enough that people stop taking them as soon as they feel better. That means only the resistant bugs are left in their bodies and those are the bugs they spread.

I'm living in the plague hot zone, the southern Rockies.

Well, at least the plague is fast.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. Are they? Not here.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:19 AM
Dec 2014

I mean, this is Mumbai and not some village in Rajasthan, but the Indian government at least is pretty big on controlling medications. (Then again this may be part of India's bid to leave the "third world" ).

Now that I think of it, in Tanzania it was pretty much "walk to a chemist and get any antibiotic you ask for."

Warpy

(111,339 posts)
3. India is trying, at least.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:23 AM
Dec 2014

Unfortunately, there's a booming market of counterfeit drugs there, the most dangerous of which contain a smaller dose of what they're supposed to be and that's also a fast route to resistant bugs.

Counterfeit drugs from under a counter or the back of a stall are the problem there.

Most resistant bugs are being created mostly by poverty, only secondarily by ignorance.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. They've pretty much already announced it won't work this year
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:45 AM
Dec 2014

Because the strain has changed to quickly.

I'm a little closer to the epicenter than you guys, so let me assure you this year's flu is fucking awful, having had it a few weeks ago.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. Now that you mention it, I do recall hearing that. So, since no money is to be made
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:49 AM
Dec 2014

from flu shots this year, no one is giving any education at all this year about avoiding the flu by means other than the vaccine. We're on to some other scares instead.

Thank heaven for Big PHRMA, always researching this stuff, huh? I'll never complain about their obscene profits again because I want to make sure they keep researching for the benefit of sick people. Who needs the same more reasonable prices they charge outside the US or drug reimportation? Please, please, big PHRMA, keep making us Amurickins pay through the nose. Just keep researching.

Speaking of which, I heard research showed that the just the friction of handwashing kills a lot of invisible critters that make you sick. So, always rub your hands together while washing your hands and, in a pinch, if stuck somewhere without soap and water. I also make sure I create a lot of friction when washing fruit, just on the off chance it works in contexts other than handwashing.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
10. Plenty of the world washes their hands with sand. I actually did that for a while; no complaints
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:52 AM
Dec 2014

The friction and heat from sand are more than enough to basically kill all pathogens, as long as you're thorough.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
13. Did anybody else think it was odd that DU's ebola panic people and anti-vaxxers
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 12:28 AM
Dec 2014

were the same people?

It's almost like they're really unclear on basic science concepts or something.

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