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JI7

(89,252 posts)
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:22 PM Dec 2014

Why the World Still Loves Charles Dickens



<Of all the famous Victorian authors, Charles Dickens retains a place in public affections throughout the world, and Americans adore him as if he were their own. Perhaps this is because Dickens wrote from the heart; he wrote about emotions and situations that people still identify with today. Although the English language has changed since Dickens’ time, the essence of his storytelling remains as relevant as it was in the 19th Century. Dickens’ books were not only stories, they were social commentary intended to change the world. And they did just that. Oliver Twist helped bring about changes to the Factory Acts and other laws that kept children in poverty; Nicholas Nickleby was the reason brutal Yorkshire Schools – where unwanted children were sent and abused – were closed down; and A Christmas Carol remains famous around the world for its message of redemption and charity.

A Christmas Carol was written after Dickens witnessed terrible poverty on the streets of Manchester, in the north of England, and it was intended to make every reader stop and think about how they could make a difference to their society. Dickens wrote to a friend that the story would strike “a sledge-hammer blow on behalf of the Poor Man’s Child”. A Christmas Carol has never been out of print since it was published in 1843 and performances continue to take place all over the world: among the many productions this year is a musical in Mumbai, an outdoor reading by American actors in London’s Hyde Park and a hip hop version in Chicago.

One of the most fascinating aspects of Dickens is how he appeals to religious people of all persuasions. I have been told by fervent Christians, Muslims and Hindus that they revere Dickens as a man of great faith, which he was. Yet Dickens, who became a Unitarian as a direct result of his first visit to America, was scathing toward organised religion, and roundly critical of those who thought all they needed to do was to worship at a church, temple or mosque, instead of offering practical help to those in need.

When Charles Dickens died, one of his friends overheard a child worker in London’s Covent Garden ask, “If Dickens is dead, does that mean Father Christmas will die too?”. This same sentiment seems to accompany the many Dickens festivals around the globe, which honour a man who still – all these years after his early death at 58 years old – affects the way in which we celebrate Christmas.>

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20141216-why-the-world-loves-dickens
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Why the World Still Loves Charles Dickens (Original Post) JI7 Dec 2014 OP
I adore Dickens malaise Dec 2014 #1
Mine too. PassingFair Dec 2014 #15
You might be interested in this, then. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #20
Thanks for that link sis malaise Dec 2014 #31
You are most welcome.... dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #33
Since we seem bent on repeating the conditions he suffered... Wounded Bear Dec 2014 #2
He was dang good writer Arcadiasix Dec 2014 #3
Over my desk... moondust Dec 2014 #4
Awesome. I didn't realize you could visit his home. R B Garr Dec 2014 #7
It's also a museum now. moondust Dec 2014 #9
I'm impressed! I learned something great today. n/t R B Garr Dec 2014 #21
That's a wonderful print, good you've kept it. appalachiablue Dec 2014 #10
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Dec 2014 #5
Love this! A Christmas Carol is our all-time favorite. R B Garr Dec 2014 #6
MIne, too. Reading it aloud was in December was a classic in my family. freshwest Dec 2014 #17
That is such a special memory. My mom bought me the book R B Garr Dec 2014 #23
Christmas Carol Octafish Dec 2014 #8
Very nice piece, thank you. Happy Holidays. appalachiablue Dec 2014 #11
Republicans must hate Dickens. tclambert Dec 2014 #12
I just watched the 1999 version with Patrick Stewart Ilsa Dec 2014 #13
Dickens documented a two class society, the aristocracy, and the working class poor. world wide wally Dec 2014 #14
A Tale of Two Cities! elias49 Dec 2014 #16
Next up for you should be 'Great Expectations,' Dickens' masterful takedown KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #26
Dickens wrote about the damp English cold, how it went through one's clothes in several books. freshwest Dec 2014 #27
Dickens would have plenty to say about our gross hypocrisy and empty cant, were KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #28
"It is a far, far better thing that I do ..." JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2014 #30
Dickens' Great Great Grandson tours reading Dickens' works. PADemD Dec 2014 #18
Benevolence toward the downtrodden EndElectoral Dec 2014 #19
So enjoyed this. Thanks. lexington filly Dec 2014 #22
Good post, thank you. Dickens was a great writer. I wonder if he ever thought how sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #24
you might be interested in this movie about Dickens ... Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #25
I can't read the book or see the movie Freddie Dec 2014 #29
so christmas could have been like our memorial day, independence da, new years eve JI7 Dec 2014 #37
"A Christmas Carol" is a perfect piece of writing, betsuni Dec 2014 #32
Here's a book rec for a book about the writing of "A Christmas Carol" FSogol Dec 2014 #34
du rec. xchrom Dec 2014 #35
K&R JEB Dec 2014 #36

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
15. Mine too.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:57 PM
Dec 2014

I've read every one of his books, except "Barnaby Rudge"....
Don't know why I just couldn't get into that LAST ONE.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
20. You might be interested in this, then.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:23 AM
Dec 2014
Oxford Reader's Companion to Dickens.

"This guide is a boon to understanding Dickens's life, work, ideas, and times. The alphabetically arranged entries include such topics as "amusements and recreation," "industry," "London," and "prisons and penal transportation."
The writer's major works are also discussed, focusing on their inception and composition; publishing history; illustrations (in the original editions); sources and historical context; and plots, characters, and themes.
Many of the signed articles include a bibliography. Black-and-white photographs, reproductions, and four maps accompany the text.
Appendixes include a general bibliography, an alphabetical list of characters noting the work in which they appear, and a subject index.
While there are other companions to the author's work, this is the most comprehensive.

http://www.amazon.com/Oxford-Readers-Companion-Dickens-Schlicke/dp/0198662130/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1418879634&sr=1-2&keywords=oxford+companion+dickens

You can buy new for 106 bucks
or, as I did, get a used hardbound LIKE NEW for 4.00. Maybe 4.65 now.

I also got the Oxford Companion to Trollope, same great price of 4.00 for a like new hardbound.

Why?
because Tollope and Dickens were prolific writers of their times, and it helps to know the social background of the stories, to understand what was so crucial in the plots, and what words meant in the time period they were used.
Like so many other people, I enjoy the Victorian period in England, and fortunately there are resources that gives all sorts of helpful details to further understanding of the times.
Both books are on the breakfast table, I browse with my morning coffee.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
2. Since we seem bent on repeating the conditions he suffered...
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:26 PM
Dec 2014

I find it high on my "not surprising" list.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
10. That's a wonderful print, good you've kept it.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:06 PM
Dec 2014

I still have a poster of Matisse's Sailor Boy from the Jeu de Paume in Paris 39 years ago.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
6. Love this! A Christmas Carol is our all-time favorite.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:50 PM
Dec 2014

I just love Charles Dickens. Thanks for posting this. I did read the story awhile ago of what inspired Dickens to write Christmas Carol, and I could see how the story came together for him. It's such a beautiful story and the language is just classic.



freshwest

(53,661 posts)
17. MIne, too. Reading it aloud was in December was a classic in my family.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:00 AM
Dec 2014

It was an influence on me.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
23. That is such a special memory. My mom bought me the book
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:36 AM
Dec 2014

for Christmas many years ago, but reading it together as a family sounds very special. It influenced me a lot, as well.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
12. Republicans must hate Dickens.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:37 PM
Dec 2014

They must root for early Scrooge. How they must hate it that Jacob Marley earned eternal punishment for being "a good man of business."

(That's one of my favorite parts, when Marley roars back at Scrooge: ""Business!" cried the Ghost, wringing its hands again. "Mankind was my business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence were all my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!&quot

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
13. I just watched the 1999 version with Patrick Stewart
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:43 PM
Dec 2014

as Scrooge on TNT. Hubby's favorite is George C. Scott. The lessons are applicable today.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
14. Dickens documented a two class society, the aristocracy, and the working class poor.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:55 PM
Dec 2014

This is exactly as so many Republicans are working so hard to bring this country to. They have no room for anything resembling charity, a helping hand, or the common good.
Merry Christmas.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
26. Next up for you should be 'Great Expectations,' Dickens' masterful takedown
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:46 AM
Dec 2014

of the Victorian Yuppies and Hipsters of his day (and the perils of trying to vicariously live out one's ambitions through others).

Here's a quote told through the eyes of the child narrator Pip from GE a propos of nothing but that has stuck with me ever since I read it:

Joe made the fire and swept the hearth, and then we went to the door to listen for the chaise-cart. It was a dry cold night, and the wind blew keenly, and the frost was white and hard. A man would die to-night of lying out on the marshes, I thought. And then I looked at the stars, and considered how awful if would be for a man to turn his face up to them as he froze to death, and see no help or pity in all the glittering multitude.

Chapter 7

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
27. Dickens wrote about the damp English cold, how it went through one's clothes in several books.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 02:19 AM
Dec 2014

I think most of us, even as a kid, because I was that way, tried to help people like that. It was just a connection kids have, they feel more vulnerable and grateful for what they have.

And they wonder why everyone doesn't have such blessings and how to help. If brought up the way I was, anyway. I don't know what is happening to kidss whose parents are so unfeeling. I can't grasp a kid being so uncaring about the suffering of others, unless there is something missing, it seems unnatural to me.

But my folks were of the Great Depression, who knew true hunger and solidarity. Things were more simple, perhaps, not so many people desiring luxury instead of survival. I'm not sure if we can re-create that same kind of caring society without so much pain before that.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
28. Dickens would have plenty to say about our gross hypocrisy and empty cant, were
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 02:37 AM
Dec 2014

he around to witness a society where 1 in 5 children experiences hunger at least once per month while 1% of the population controls 40% of the wealth. Dickens would flay the finance and banking crew and would utterly demolish the denizens of self help that pollute our national consciousness.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
30. "It is a far, far better thing that I do ..."
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:23 AM
Dec 2014

best words never uttered by a character.

Yes, a great book.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
18. Dickens' Great Great Grandson tours reading Dickens' works.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:25 AM
Dec 2014

Gerald Charles Dickens performed every character of The Christmas Carol several years ago in Bethlehem, PA.

http://www.geralddickens.com/biography.htm

http://www.geralddickens.com/events.htm

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
19. Benevolence toward the downtrodden
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:48 AM
Dec 2014

Was at the Edgar Allan Poe gravesite in Baltimore yesterday. Poe had met Dickens on occasion, and of course died quite young in 1849. Dickens had read that his mother-in-law (Mrs. Clemm) was destitute later in life and two years before Dickens died he sent her $1000 (amount to $16,667 dollars today even though he hardly knew the lady).

"A note from the Daily National Intelligencer (Washington, DC), states: “DICKENS, it is reported, has sent $1,000 to Mrs. Clemm, the mother-in-law of Edgar A. Poe, who is an inmate of a charitable institution in Baltimore, and has been for years in extremely indigent circumstances.” (Tuesday, February 4, 1868). "

While Dickens had his flaws, he did contribute to improving the condition of the poor such as the Field Lane Ragged School which provided evening classes for the poor, and Urania Cottage, a home for fallen and homeless women as well as many other causes.

"No one is useless in this world who lightens the burden of it to anyone else." - Dickens

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
24. Good post, thank you. Dickens was a great writer. I wonder if he ever thought how
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:41 AM
Dec 2014

many generations would be reading his work? And how relevant it would remain for so long?

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
25. you might be interested in this movie about Dickens ...
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:46 AM
Dec 2014
The Invisible Woman (2013)

111 min - Biography | Drama | History - 21 February 2014 (UK)
Director: Ralph Fiennes
Writers: Abi Morgan (screenplay), Claire Tomalin (book)
Stars: Ralph Fiennes, Felicity Jones, Kristin Scott Thomas

At the height of his career, Charles Dickens meets a younger woman who becomes his secret lover until his death. In the 1850s, Ellen Ternan is a minimally talented actress who catches the eye of the hailed British author, Charles Dickens. Bored with his intellectually unstimulating wife, Dickens takes the educated Ellen has his mistress with the cooperation of her mother. What follows is a stormy relationship with this literary giant who provides her with a life few women of her time can enjoy. Yet, Ellen is equally revolted by Charles' emotional cruelty and determination to keep her secret. In that conflict, Ellen must judge her own role in her life and decide if the price she pays is bearable.

more at link:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1700845/?ref_=rvi_tt

and from Wikipedia:
The Invisible Woman is a 2013 British biographical drama film directed by Ralph Fiennes and starring Ralph Fiennes, Felicity Jones, Kristin Scott Thomas, and Tom Hollander. Written by Abi Morgan, and based on the book The Invisible Woman by Claire Tomalin, the film is about the secret love affair between Charles Dickens and Nelly Ternan, which lasted for thirteen years until his death in 1870. The film premiered at the Telluride Film Festival on 31 August 2013,[3] and was released in the United Kingdom on 7 February 2014. The film received a Best Costume Design nomination (Michael O'Connor) at the 86th Academy Awards.[4]

more at link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invisible_Woman_%282013_film%29




Freddie

(9,267 posts)
29. I can't read the book or see the movie
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:15 AM
Dec 2014

Without crying my eyes out, whether it's George C. Scott or Mr. Magoo in the lead role. And I do, several times each holiday season.
I've read that "A Christmas Carol" is why the holiday changed from a day adults got drunk to its present emphasis on children. A blessing indeed.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
37. so christmas could have been like our memorial day, independence da, new years eve
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:32 PM
Dec 2014

etc.

even with all the focus on shopping there is still a lot of giving . the holiday would really suck if that part went away.

betsuni

(25,538 posts)
32. "A Christmas Carol" is a perfect piece of writing,
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:05 AM
Dec 2014

and I've read it so many times that if my brains worked well I could quote the whole thing. "American Notes for General Circulation" is powerful, Dickens is sickened by slavery and wonders what the hell is wrong with Americans.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
34. Here's a book rec for a book about the writing of "A Christmas Carol"
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:28 PM
Dec 2014

It is a good story and provides an excellent glimpse into Dickens' life.

"The Man Who Invented Christmas: How Charles Dickens's A Christmas Carol Rescued His Career & Revived Our Holiday Spirits"
by Les Standiford.

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