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ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 10:35 AM Dec 2014

This is why I HATE NPR

Because with the dropping of one word they turned the protests against police brutality -
into -
"protests against police."

which they keep repeating in every news headline

It makes me so angry!

Npr is more dangerous that "right-wing" media, bec. so many tone-deaf liberals (including many of my friends) think that npr is Moderate or Liberal.

GRR

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This is why I HATE NPR (Original Post) ellenrr Dec 2014 OP
It all goes back to the deal with the devil they made in 1983 to keep the network alive unrepentant progress Dec 2014 #1
thank you. yes I know this, I never except better from NPR ellenrr Dec 2014 #4
You could tell by how National Pentagon Radio beat the drums of war KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #8
Or their refusal to call torture what it is. unrepentant progress Dec 2014 #19
Can you give an exact time? Dale Neiburg Dec 2014 #2
twice so far this morning in the news headlines, which ellenrr Dec 2014 #3
I'm still not able to locate this. Dale Neiburg Dec 2014 #15
Dale! unrepentant progress Dec 2014 #21
oh that cd be, I listen to WNYC. nt ellenrr Dec 2014 #33
I quit listening to NPR, Fox, CNN and MSNBC? I watch the local 6 O'Clock news and doc03 Dec 2014 #5
for news I listen only to Democracy Now, and other shows on Pacifica, ellenrr Dec 2014 #7
As I noted in a post below Cirque du So-What Dec 2014 #9
PS I'd be interested to know if Pacifica is available via Sirus. nt ellenrr Dec 2014 #11
My preliminary search wasn't promising Cirque du So-What Dec 2014 #17
yeah! ellenrr Dec 2014 #34
I began referring to NPR as National Petroleum Radio several years ago Cirque du So-What Dec 2014 #6
Are you familiar with Pacifica radio? I don't know ellenrr Dec 2014 #10
Yes, I've been a fan of Pacifica for years Cirque du So-What Dec 2014 #16
Progressive talk 127 on Sirrus kimbutgar Dec 2014 #23
Hey, thanks! Cirque du So-What Dec 2014 #30
NPR's Boss: Financial Industry Lobbyist, GOP Donor, Right-Wing Think Tank Booster G_j Dec 2014 #12
Haaga is no longer acting CEO Dale Neiburg Dec 2014 #13
I still listen to NPR but am so skeptical a kennedy Dec 2014 #14
WPR has a number of saving graces. Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #22
Yup, Kathleen IS my favorite..... a kennedy Dec 2014 #40
"wait, wait don't tell me" is the only thing worth listening to anymore. RiverLover Dec 2014 #18
I still listen to Diane Rehm occasionally Cirque du So-What Dec 2014 #31
I LOVE "Wait, Wait". one thing about it irks me tho ellenrr Dec 2014 #36
I finally quit listening heaven05 Dec 2014 #20
It used to be liberal and progressive until W and the Teabillies started cutting funds, now ..... marble falls Dec 2014 #24
NPR is great. I'm sure it was a conspiracy. aikoaiko Dec 2014 #25
No, it isn't fair.. that lumps all the police together.. which is not fair. Cha Dec 2014 #47
Maybe they should say "some police" aikoaiko Dec 2014 #49
I don't listen to NPR pintobean Dec 2014 #26
K&R! I agree, ellenrr. I will not turn on NPR. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #27
NPR sucks as bad as any other corprat-controlled propaganda outlet Triana Dec 2014 #28
I quit NPR too! SoapBox Dec 2014 #29
Like dropping "Energy" from "Iran's Nuclear Energy Program" cprise Dec 2014 #32
Diane Rehm last week.... Hoppy Dec 2014 #35
That is a longstanding complaint about the show. AngryOldDem Dec 2014 #37
Lots of slant... SoapBox Dec 2014 #41
Steve Inskeep has a voice and tone made for slapping Tom Ripley Dec 2014 #53
Good distinction - good people protest against behaviors, not people themselves bhikkhu Dec 2014 #38
NPR sucks abelenkpe Dec 2014 #39
not as much as republicanTV fox lie$$ sucks or the several republican 'radio' shows suck Sunlei Dec 2014 #42
However, ... JEFF9K Dec 2014 #43
Please don't mistake some posts as being all liberals. RiverLover Dec 2014 #44
It's pretty close to "ALL." JEFF9K Dec 2014 #45
Only 90%? Indydem Dec 2014 #48
I've never seen the word "pig" used here to describe police. ellenrr Dec 2014 #50
NPR blue sky at night Dec 2014 #46
national propaganda radio Locrian Dec 2014 #51
^^^THIS^^^ Tom Ripley Dec 2014 #54
Kai Ryssdal Locrian Dec 2014 #57
All things considered Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #52
We listen to a lot of NPR and we are local contributors to WBEZ Chicago. MerryBlooms Dec 2014 #55
If that's the case, LWolf Dec 2014 #56
I listen only to their classical music services Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2014 #58
Mara & Cokie Basic LA Dec 2014 #59
1. It all goes back to the deal with the devil they made in 1983 to keep the network alive
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 10:49 AM
Dec 2014

NPR was hated by Nixon and most of Washington from its inception. They really were anti-war. By 1983 though Frank Mankiewicz brought NPR to the brink of bankruptcy after attempting a disastrous aggressive expansion plan. The Corporation for Public Broadcasting loaned NPR $7 million but with the stipulation that the network undergo a dramatic reorganization. NPR would no longer be funded directly, and the money given to the member stations instead, who would then pay subscription fees. This resulted in the member stations having much more control over NPR than before. As we all know, the member stations' boards tend to be dominated by wealthy right wingers. And so NPR began its rightward drift. Through the 1980s it was still pretty good, but the drift accelerated in the 1990s, and by the time the 21st century rolled around NPR was well used to being a right wing punching bag whose only recourse was to make its programming ever more tame, and its news ever more propagandistic. There are many other problems with public radio in this country, of course.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
4. thank you. yes I know this, I never except better from NPR
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:03 AM
Dec 2014

than a right-wing slant and gov't propaganda

or "National Propaganda Radio".

I noticed this particular offense, and it enraged me, bec. it is somewhat "subtle" - at least from one point of view -
making it seem like the protests which were legitimately against police brutality, suddenly,
the protests are "against police"
which is a totally different thing.

and which feeds into the fascist mongering that Police Union Patrick Lynch and others have been frothing at the mouth.

I could write NPR, but does that do any good.....

Not like it's an accident.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
8. You could tell by how National Pentagon Radio beat the drums of war
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:12 AM
Dec 2014

for the Iraq War debacle in 2003. It was positively shameful, not that they will ever admit any culpability or missteps.

Dale Neiburg

(698 posts)
2. Can you give an exact time?
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 10:54 AM
Dec 2014

I've just been checking an off-air logger of NPR newscasts and can't find the dropped-word headline you're talking about.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
3. twice so far this morning in the news headlines, which
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 10:58 AM
Dec 2014

would have been at 9 am, and not sure of the time of the first one - sometime between 8 am and 9 am - when they repeat the news headlines.

Dale Neiburg

(698 posts)
15. I'm still not able to locate this.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:59 AM
Dec 2014

My suspicion is that it was something produced by your local station, not by NPR.

doc03

(35,392 posts)
5. I quit listening to NPR, Fox, CNN and MSNBC? I watch the local 6 O'Clock news and
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:03 AM
Dec 2014

NBC or CBS news. I just decided I don't need to be depressed over things I can
do nothing about. I watch these people that have Fox on their monitors in the gym, they
just look bitter and sad all the time.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
7. for news I listen only to Democracy Now, and other shows on Pacifica,
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:11 AM
Dec 2014

I try to avoid the news on NPR - cuz it makes me mad,
but sometimes I don't get shut of it fast enough.

There are a lot of depressing things going on all over the world, and I no longer think I'm going to change the world, but I think I can contribute a little on the good side of the balance.

Mostly I listen bec it lifts my spirits to hear about resistance, here, and everywhere.
Otherwise, I'd be really depressed!

Cirque du So-What

(26,004 posts)
9. As I noted in a post below
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:12 AM
Dec 2014

I have serious misgivings over NPR's coverage & commentary, but it's been the only viable choice during my daily commute. With satellite radio, I'd like to give NPR its walking papers.

Cirque du So-What

(26,004 posts)
17. My preliminary search wasn't promising
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 12:12 PM
Dec 2014

I found a list of suggestions for SiriusXM programming, and Pacifica was in the 'denied' category. Figures.

Cirque du So-What

(26,004 posts)
6. I began referring to NPR as National Petroleum Radio several years ago
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:09 AM
Dec 2014

when I perceived a decidedly pro-Big Oil bias creeping into their coverage and commentary. I received a gift of Sirius XM radio for Christmas, so I hope I find something worth listening to during my 2 hours on the road every workday.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
10. Are you familiar with Pacifica radio? I don't know
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:13 AM
Dec 2014

if they are on Sirius, but if they are, definitely a lot worth listening to.
http://www.pacifica.org/

Cirque du So-What

(26,004 posts)
16. Yes, I've been a fan of Pacifica for years
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 12:05 PM
Dec 2014

I hope it's available on satellite radio. If not, I may look into streaming it from my phone into my car's sound system. Thanks for the suggestion and reminder of what a tremendous resource that Pacifica is.

kimbutgar

(21,226 posts)
23. Progressive talk 127 on Sirrus
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 12:43 PM
Dec 2014

Has some great left talkers, Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartman. Signarollie and Mark Thompson.

I had brought a satellite radio years ago when Howard Stern went over there. I had to stop listening in the AM because the content got too raunchy for my young age school son whn we were getting ready in th morning. We got a new car in 2011 with Sirrus and found 127. You can also listen with an app on phone, tablet and computer.

G_j

(40,372 posts)
12. NPR's Boss: Financial Industry Lobbyist, GOP Donor, Right-Wing Think Tank Booster
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:23 AM
Dec 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023706519

http://www.fair.org/blog/2013/09/17/nprs-new-boss-financial-industry-lobbyist-gop-donor-right-wing-think-tank-booster/

Posted by Peter Hart
9/17/13

Last month NPR CEO Gary Knell left to take a job at National Geographic, making him the latest in a string of CEOs who left after a short stint running the public radio outlet. On September 13, NPR named a new acting president and CEO: board member Paul G. Haaga.

The NPR press release (9/13/13) states that Haaga's "accomplished career" included a stint as "chairman of the Investment Company Institute"–the powerful lobbying group of the mutual fund industry. As the Los Angeles Times (11/29/03) once reported, "Mutual funds have been mostly shielded from the reforms forced on the financial world–thanks in large part to the efforts of the Investment Company Institute."

NPR also adds that Haaga has ties to right-wing think tanks–he is "a member of the National Council of the American Enterprise Institute" and he sits on "the Board of Overseers of Hoover Institution at Stanford University."

Haaga is also a fairly regular contributor to Republican politicians. According to OpenSecrets.org, this year he made a $32,400 donation to the Republican National Committee; in the previous two years, he made contributions of around $30,000 to the National Republican Congressional Committee. He's also given four-figure checks to a large number of mostly Republican candidates, including Rep. Paul Ryan, George Allen and Mitch McConnell.

So the new boss–for now–at NPR is a former financial industry lobbyist who is a regular donor to Republican politicians, with ties to two prominent conservative think tanks. When NPR finds a new boss, he'll continue to be a member of NPR's board.

According to right-wing mythology, NPR is a decidedly left-wing media outlet, living off government subsidies and pushing a liberal agenda. That's not at all true when it comes to what's on the air–or who's on the board.[/div

a kennedy

(29,725 posts)
14. I still listen to NPR but am so skeptical
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 11:58 AM
Dec 2014

Hate the conservative tone they have taken on......don't give to the national cause, but do give to our local station, Wisconsin Public radio.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
22. WPR has a number of saving graces.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 12:41 PM
Dec 2014

Kathleen Dunn still does some great interviews, for example. And for (mostly) non-political stuff, Larry Mieller often has great guests.

Cirque du So-What

(26,004 posts)
31. I still listen to Diane Rehm occasionally
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:07 PM
Dec 2014

and I like This American Life & On the Media, but their everyday commentary has definitely gone to the dogs.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
36. I LOVE "Wait, Wait". one thing about it irks me tho
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:12 PM
Dec 2014

some things - like torture - are not subject to comedy imo.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
20. I finally quit listening
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 12:37 PM
Dec 2014

for good in 2003. Amerika is already a fascist police state with National Propaganda Radio posing as liberal radio as so many elsewhere are posing as liberals and progressives.

marble falls

(57,394 posts)
24. It used to be liberal and progressive until W and the Teabillies started cutting funds, now .....
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 12:47 PM
Dec 2014

Charles Kochand his ilk are the big bankrollers of public broadcasting and it shows in the broadcasting of the news.

aikoaiko

(34,185 posts)
25. NPR is great. I'm sure it was a conspiracy.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 12:47 PM
Dec 2014

I think it's more accurate to say police violence, but protests against the police is fair.

Protesters are protesting standard police policies as much as the violations.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
27. K&R! I agree, ellenrr. I will not turn on NPR.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 12:57 PM
Dec 2014

I used to be an avid listener.

As if the Far Right® didn't have enough control over the media.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
28. NPR sucks as bad as any other corprat-controlled propaganda outlet
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:03 PM
Dec 2014

They have me fuming every time I listen (which isn't very often anymore).

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
29. I quit NPR too!
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:04 PM
Dec 2014

But...my partner has not.

If I bring up something I read here, he usually "corrects" the story with details from...NPR.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
32. Like dropping "Energy" from "Iran's Nuclear Energy Program"
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:08 PM
Dec 2014

...always next to mention of "weapons".

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
35. Diane Rehm last week....
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:11 PM
Dec 2014

Guy call in to complain about continuing guests from Cato and Americans for Prosperity.

She responds by complaining about his ad hominem attack.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
37. That is a longstanding complaint about the show.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:15 PM
Dec 2014

Read the comments on her website sometime. I don't know if she takes questions during the show from the website (I can't listen to her show during the day, and can't keep up with the podcasts, if I download them) but some of what people ask would really add a lot to the discussions.

But yes, her shows do have a slant, and I think she's well aware of that.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
41. Lots of slant...
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:39 PM
Dec 2014

I got so over Steve Inskeep and Michelle Norris...there was a nasty tone and "snark" in many reports when President Obama was running. That was when I stopped listening as it became so obvious to me.

bhikkhu

(10,725 posts)
38. Good distinction - good people protest against behaviors, not people themselves
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:16 PM
Dec 2014

unless they're wingers who are convinced that problems are the people themselves, and deny that there choice and change can change behaviors and lives.

I got into that with the kids fairly often when they were younger, where they'd done something wrong and, being called on it, they would say "you think I'm a terrible person now" or "now you just hate me". It would always be an explanation of how you can love a person but hate the behavior, and that any person can chose to behave in a good or bad way. People's responses are to behavior, and there's nothing better than seeing someone change and decide to behave well. Any 5 year old is capable of that; I don't think its unreasonable to ask our police to think a bit and do the same.

And, yes, NPR does disappoint fairly often, in very aggravating ways where they really should know better.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
39. NPR sucks
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:21 PM
Dec 2014

They've sucked for a long time now. They've been leaning right since the run up to the Iraq war.

JEFF9K

(1,935 posts)
43. However, ...
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 02:28 PM
Dec 2014

It seems that "liberals" at THIS site are against police, period!

In every case, they give the benefit of the doubt to the criminal/victim.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
44. Please don't mistake some posts as being all liberals.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 02:35 PM
Dec 2014

And unlike rethugs, we actually WANT to pay taxes that pay police salaries. A large number of us anyways. It's possible to support police while being against blatant police brutality.

JEFF9K

(1,935 posts)
45. It's pretty close to "ALL."
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 02:41 PM
Dec 2014

And I'm talking only about the subset of liberals that use THIS site.

I would guess about 90%, judging by the threads and comments I've seen.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
48. Only 90%?
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 09:10 PM
Dec 2014

You are being exceptionally generous. If I had a nickel for every time I've heard the word "pig" used to describe all police officers on this site...

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
50. I've never seen the word "pig" used here to describe police.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 08:06 AM
Dec 2014

I object to police being so characterized.

Pigs are quite nice animals and intelligent.
they get a bad rep.

blue sky at night

(3,242 posts)
46. NPR
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 05:11 PM
Dec 2014

National Publican Radio...stopped listening to their news years ago...now I just stopped listening to any news, except for DU.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
51. national propaganda radio
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:09 AM
Dec 2014

Sad to see it has reached so low.

I occasionally turn it on and hear some freemarket leg humping story. Always told in the same breathless awe by young reporters waxing poetic about the genius of the market.

Sickening.

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
54. ^^^THIS^^^
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 10:32 AM
Dec 2014

There are many on there who want to be another loathsome Kai Ryssdal.
One is already one too many.

MerryBlooms

(11,773 posts)
55. We listen to a lot of NPR and we are local contributors to WBEZ Chicago.
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 11:03 AM
Dec 2014

These are the shows we listen to pretty regularly

Morning Edition
All Things Considered
Fresh Air
Here & Now
The Diane Rehm Show
On The Media
On Point
Weekend Edition Saturday
Weekend Edition Sunday

Storytelling & Humor

Ask Me Another
The Best Of Car Talk
Bullseye
Radiolab
Snap Judgment
StoryCorps
TED Radio Hour
Wait Wait...Don't Tell Me!

Music

All Songs Considered
First Listen
From The Top
Jazz Night In America
Metropolis
Microphone Check
Mountain Stage
Piano Jazz
Song Travels
The Thistle & Shamrock
World Cafe

Science Friday
This American Life (PRX)

Oh, and The Moth is also excellent.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
56. If that's the case,
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 11:46 AM
Dec 2014

then you probably hate all media outside of "fringe" that few people hear.

I agree that it's more aggravating when it comes from a supposedly "public" network.

Not that it's really "public," as we know if we've ever listened to their long list of sponsors.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
58. I listen only to their classical music services
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 12:26 PM
Dec 2014

In 1988, I heard a talk by a former NPR reporter who explained how corporate underwriters controlled what went on the air. She had once prepared a report on the people who were being harmed by Reaganomics, but one of the underwriters, an investment firm, got wind of this report and demanded that it be cancelled, or they would pull their considerable funding.

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
59. Mara & Cokie
Fri Dec 26, 2014, 01:00 PM
Dec 2014

And for the "liberal" view we'll now hear from Fox News's Mara Liason & Uber Republican Cokie Roberts.

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