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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:59 PM Dec 2014

The ‘unverifiable’ legacy of Chris Kyle, the deadliest sniper in American history

Chris Kyle, musclebound, grim-faced and lethal, liked to tell stories.

Before his murder in 2013 at 38, the so-called deadliest sniper in American history nurtured a comic book narrative. He was the “true American badass,” as one journalist called him, who dipped, wore big boots and affected an aw-shucks Texas swagger. With 160 confirmed kills under his belt and a beautiful family behind him, he became the stuff of military legend. He wrote a best-selling book. Statues were erected. Millions made.

And then there were his stories — some of which smelled fishy. “There were a lot of things he told people that are really unverifiable,” journalist Michael J. Mooney, who wrote a book on Kyle, told The Washington Post.

Like the one about how he and a bud went down to New Orleans following Hurricane Katrina and picked off dozens of bad guys. Or the one in which he took on two armed Texans bent on stealing his truck and shot them both dead. Or the one he told about former Minnesota governor Jesse “The Body” Ventura.

It’s a story that Ventura said was false. A Minnesota jury, which on Tuesday awarded Ventura $1.8 million in damages from Kyle’s estate after deliberating for six days, agreed.

more at this link.......

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/30/the-complicated-but-unveriable-legacy-of-chris-kyle-the-deadliest-sniper-in-american-history/

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The ‘unverifiable’ legacy of Chris Kyle, the deadliest sniper in American history (Original Post) Logical Dec 2014 OP
This is another sad chapter in the glorification of "warriors" ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #1
You are so correct, why celebrate a man who brags about killing 100s of people? I remember.... Logical Dec 2014 #2
So true ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #5
my nephew is a war hero. he insisted that his family keep their yaps shut. mopinko Dec 2014 #6
That is a real hero. nt Logical Dec 2014 #10
well, in all honesty, part of it was the fatwa. mopinko Dec 2014 #11
Because it's cheaper than giving him therapy. Brickbat Dec 2014 #14
I agree. kentuck Dec 2014 #3
Almost every "hero" story that came from the illegal SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #15
glorified by people frightened of the bigness of the world around them which is changing quickly belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #4
+100 nt Logical Dec 2014 #19
If any of that stuff's true, then he's an even bigger asshole than I already thought he was. Iggo Dec 2014 #7
Interesting read... truebrit71 Dec 2014 #8
Also, the gas station killings would of been big news. Shit, the NRA would advertise it. nt Logical Dec 2014 #9
no hero worship, no more heroes. mopinko Dec 2014 #12
Sociopathic narcissists shouldn't be given guns. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #13
I would agree with that. nt Logical Dec 2014 #16
...or movies made about their lives. n/t Contrary1 Dec 2014 #18
Kick and Rec! n/t zappaman Dec 2014 #17
The Iraq war was illegal and immoral alcibiades_mystery Dec 2014 #20
Interesting. Quantess Dec 2014 #21
Needed another bump! nt Logical Jan 2015 #22
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
1. This is another sad chapter in the glorification of "warriors" ...
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:46 PM
Dec 2014

that the U.S. seems enamored with ... I read this and think Jessica Lynch and the sad story of Pat Tillman.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
2. You are so correct, why celebrate a man who brags about killing 100s of people? I remember....
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:55 PM
Dec 2014

my dad not even being willing to discuss WWII, much less ever answering the "did you kill anyone" question.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
5. So true ...
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:11 PM
Dec 2014

In my years, I have known a bunch of soldiers, many of whom were Special Operations folks. The vast majority of them refused to talk about anything they did (except for the wild nights they spent in exotic places) ... and those that did were looked down upon as braggards, liars, or nuts.

mopinko

(70,213 posts)
6. my nephew is a war hero. he insisted that his family keep their yaps shut.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:15 PM
Dec 2014

even when he got a big medal, and even tho he is in an important job now, we do not speak his name on the interwebs. or else.

mopinko

(70,213 posts)
11. well, in all honesty, part of it was the fatwa.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:07 PM
Dec 2014

srsly.
but that is also just the way he is. and why he was so good at his job.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
15. Almost every "hero" story that came from the illegal
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 04:38 PM
Dec 2014

and immoral war in Iraq has turned out to be bullshit.

And did I read that right? The man claims to have taken his sniper rifle to New Orleans and shot people he deemed "bad guys"? So he continued his excellent career by shooting at Americans?

So I wonder if he shot at the black kid who was "looting" while letting the white people who were "foraging" off...

 

belzabubba333

(1,237 posts)
4. glorified by people frightened of the bigness of the world around them which is changing quickly
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:06 PM
Dec 2014

and their inability to stop it.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
8. Interesting read...
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:23 PM
Dec 2014

He doesn't seem to have been a pleasant person, at the very least his claim to have murdered 30 people in N.O. after Katrina should have been investigated....

mopinko

(70,213 posts)
12. no hero worship, no more heroes.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:10 PM
Dec 2014

imho, evolutionary psychology explains this. "altruism", being willing to die for others, makes no sense unless there is a mechanism to raise any offspring that hero might leave. hero worship, imho, is that mechanism.
medals are a very necessary cog in the war machine.

time to evolve.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
20. The Iraq war was illegal and immoral
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 12:45 PM
Dec 2014

Begun with lies, and filled with lies.

I'm all for supporting the veterans of that illegal war, but forgive me if the adulation piled on to the late Mr. Kyle strikes me as something other than supporting veterans. Something very much other, actually.

When people are pumping their fists over the tabulation of Mr. Kyle's triumphs, they should be reminded that the Iraq war was illegal and immoral.

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