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(42,334 posts)BootinUp
(47,165 posts)been outa da loop for a several days.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)A 3-4 vote was made to leave it!
BootinUp
(47,165 posts)Autumn
(45,109 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Autumn
(45,109 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)On Fri Jan 2, 2015, 11:10 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
POS used car salesman.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6032234
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Of course referring to President Obama with this nasty epithet. Does DU have ANY standards remaining? This is well beyond "criticism," so before you wave this off as healthy debate, keep in mind this post is in response to an unsubstantiated, unsupported "quote." The knee jerk name-calling is really getting ridiculous. Check the TOS, this behavior is covered AT LENGTH.
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BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)I have yet to read a single one of his posts that is even remotely positive of this president. Either that poster has an agenda or he's one of the many here who don't appear to like dark skin color. Either way, the fact that his post is allowed to stand tells me that there are more of his kind than Democrats on this board.
Cha
(297,323 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)The poster would have a better chance of running through Hell In a gasoline suit than calling Barack Obama a "piece of shit" in my presence. That goes far beyond the realm of legitimate criticism.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Your keyboard didn't stand a chance
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)The person who made that odious remark is free to test that proposition. I have been posting on the "internets" since 1998 and I have made similar propositions. In no instances did my interlocutor take me up on it. I am confident in all cases it inured to their benefit.
KISSES
DSB
on edit- I love how people make flash judgements over the "internets". How in most instances they couldn't be more wrong.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)You're a tough guy.
And according to your response, quite possibly the toughest guy to ever post on the "internets"*
*since 1998
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)It would be foolish of me to test the proposition of the toughest guy on the internet since 1998.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I'm going to assume you are just internet raging and wouldn't actually hit someone for having a poor opinion of the President.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)I wouldn't take up his proposition if I were you.
It hasn't ended well for everyone since 1998.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Not healthy in a thriving democracy.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)perhaps you will explain how it is?
JI7
(89,252 posts)how fucked up does one have to be to go to such a site and sqwuak off about how people are support the dem president. that people like the president.
fucking dumb fucks .
mopinko
(70,138 posts)oh, that's right, supporting the 2 term leader of the party is hero worship. supporting a guy who is so consistently and outrageously demonized, even here, is hero worship.
got it.
got anything else?
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)then the criticism would lessen.
Gushing over photos of the President doesn't undo his anti-Democratic behavior.
Sometimes, supporting The Leader despite his flaws leads to bad things.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)mopinko
(70,138 posts)like, um, doing an end run around congress to close gitmo?
give it a rest. we all have our disappointments. life is sticky and complicated. but occasionally, it is good to rally together and remember that we have a lot more uniting us than dividing us. especially here in a democrats "only" community.
but maybe that is just a grown up thing, and you dont understand.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)That does not mean that we are not allowed to speak up against things that we do not believe are good for the country just because the president is for those things.
Closing gitmo does not hold a candle to the damage that will be done with the TPP, and that is what this is all about. I have always given him credit where credit is due, and I have supported him on things that I did not even support, but I will not stand side by side with him on the TPP.
JI7
(89,252 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)mopinko
(70,138 posts)there are plenty of threads bashing him for this, that and the other thing. it is just childish to have to come onto these sort of thread and start with the whole used car salesman crap.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)was brought into this thread by the OP, not someone shitting on it. But I will admit that my post was not polite if this is only supposed to be a pep rally. Sorry.
mopinko
(70,138 posts)yes, we are allowed an occasional pep rally in the world of shit storms.
try to grok that, eh, before shitting on not just the pres, but the poster.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)I never shit on the president, nor did I shit on the OP. All I said was that no one in this thread had brought "used car salesman" comments into this thread, except that this was mentioned by the OP in answer to what started this thread. You said that people were shitting on this thread with those comments, and that was just not true.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I see the same clown disrespected me in this thread.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Which is why he's suddenly getting high fives for his comment in the other thread from "principled objectors to the president's policies."
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)****** playground bullies.
mopinko
(70,138 posts)the answers to which are no doubt plain to them.
cant believe people get away with that "just askin" shit.
JI7
(89,252 posts)not criticism of any policy .
Hekate
(90,719 posts)Whatever he does, whatever he proposes, it's always the wrong thing. Even when he gets something monumental accomplished, he didn't do it right and he didn't do it on his first day in office. No matter how big the achievement, he didn't do something more important or he's doing something actively evil in another area.
So no, I don't see him getting credit for "the good things." I see members who want to give him credit being mocked and excoriated and told to segregate themselves in one small group away from the rest of DU. I've seen at least two DUers driven away; one an unabashed fan from another country, and another who was an invaluable resource for information and links.
How Progressive. How Liberal. How Democratic.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Because there have been heaps that have left since. Prosense and Frenchiecat are gone now too.
Hekate
(90,719 posts)I miss them, and Frenchiecat, and Political Tiger, and....
I'd love a genuine informational discussion here instead of the pissing and moaning and flinging buzzwords about. It's been a long, long time since I could come to DU for reliable factual information on a regular basis.
Number23
(24,544 posts)while the opposing (seriously, WHERE ARE WE that a thread supporting president Obama on a Dem board has an OPPOSING thread???!!) thread braying about Bernie Sanders is left alone but somehow, it's Obama supporters that are running people off of DU.
And Bernie Sanders isn't even a damned Democrat. This place is just gone and has been for too long. I've asked in two threads why the sudden lurch back to the endless wailing over the TPP when nothing has even happened as well as the reversion back to Obama bad/Sanders and Warren good that this web site had (blissfully) gotten away from for a few weeks but no one seems to know. I've got my suspicions (way too much focus on racism and police brutality and the "it's not race, it's class" crew is just restaking their territory) but really, it's anybody's guess what motivates these folks.
It's been a long, long time since I could come to DU for reliable factual information on a regular basis.
For real.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)and tell him so. I posted way down below (182) the way I feel about him. No matter what he does wrong, he is always the most refreshing interesting pleasant person that ever sat in the White House....and I cannot believe that even when he does something that appears to be wrong, he would not purposely harm the country...
Happy New Year, Curm....
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Contrary to your post, I will assume that you are grown up.
The problem is that Obama's bad acts have much broader, deeper and longer-lasting repercussions than his "good things," which makes them pale in comparison. Yeah, he did an end-run around Congress to close Gitmo seven years after he promised to do so. In the meantime he increased military operations in Africa by 217%, intensified our drone campaigns that kill 50 innocents for every suspected militant, attacked Libya without authorization, reinserted troops into Iraq, claimed the authority to execute U.S. citizens without due process, enshrined indefinite detention into U.S. law, condoned torture, expanded NSA citizen surveillance activities and is pushing the TPP.
So hurray! Obama released some Gitmo captives after only seven more years of unlawful imprisonment and torture. Whoopee!
mopinko
(70,138 posts)there are plenty of threads like that.
tell the people whose lives have been saved by the aca whoopee. tell all the people who are free to marry now that he tipped over the highest domino, and made them all fall.
i can play this game all night. the haters, i think, would be out of ammo after a couple rounds.
srsly. this place is for democrats. if you cant allow one thread to praise the leader of the party, maybe you are in the wrong place.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)has a frightening historical precedent.
Good luck with that.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)as big of fans as you'll find in the BOG. I am always glad to see you guys venture out but do think you should understand that there are those in GD that are not such big fans. They might want to speak to issues and not personalities.
How do you feel about the TPP?
Hekate
(90,719 posts)The ad hominem attacks against the Prez are constant here, and those of us who would like to show support are called names like "drooling fanboy" and told to go segregate ourselves in the BOG.
As you pointed out, this is GD. If you don't like what we have to say, just move along. At least I've never seen one of Obama's supporters tell you or others to go segregate yourselves in some group of your own. Maybe we should do that?
Cha
(297,323 posts)Don't be jealous because people like to look at pics of this admin.. It's just an historical photo journal of the Obama Admin.
You have no clue what all this President has accomplished and how fortunate we are to have him at this time in history. All you have are cheap ignorant pot shots.
mopinko
(70,138 posts)true shit.
Cha
(297,323 posts)Aloha no
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)that was posted several months ago.
Sounds like hero worship to me. Or a crush.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I support the Miami Heat but I'm not in love with Eric Spoelstra.
randys1
(16,286 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)You did.
Cha
(297,323 posts)President Obama has supporters and don't think like they do.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)no one calls those posting daily admiration threads for couple of other folks ... well ... that's just reasoned and principled support. Right?
Cha
(297,323 posts)we can't support the President.. it has to be a cult. That's the only way they can wrap their brain around someone having the audacity of supporting Obama. How dare anyone?! ON their board that they've taken over?!!!!111 LOL ROFL
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)that I rather like and would vote for in a heart beat, if they run and get the Democratic nomination.
In fact, there's a thread up now declaring they are standing with one of them.
Cha
(297,323 posts)start throwing "cultist" my way because I'm a supporter of President Obama.
Kath1
(4,309 posts)And so do the majority of people I know.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Hekate
(90,719 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)mopinko
(70,138 posts)this place makes me nuts sometimes.
JI7
(89,252 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,743 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)You can bet you wont find many moaners who are also minorities who have their rights threatened daily
mopinko
(70,138 posts)but.....
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)how many times can you put "fuck" into a post? What's your personal best?
Hekate
(90,719 posts)...Will Pitt's posts at any time? He prolly holds the record by now.
riqster
(13,986 posts)Fuckin'A.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)to me, it means that the reasons you made that choice can't be very reliable.
mopinko
(70,138 posts)i am one too. proud as fuck of it, too.
that is who this place is for. if you think it is a bad thing......
Enrique
(27,461 posts)so I have to leave DU?
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)I didn't know people were born a Dem, Indy, Green or Repig or other.
My family - traditional Democratic Party. I registered Indy when I could vote. Didn't change until recently to the Democratic Party and I'm glad I did!
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mopinko
(70,138 posts)i am happy to do that. proud to do that.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Divide the Democratic voters, then their masters whom they kiss the ring and kneel on both knees to will take total control of what use to be America!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)anyone not think like they do?!!! 1
They would be most upset if anyone accuse them of ******* to greenwald and snowden.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)paleotn
(17,931 posts)Obama Can Do No Wrong syndrome. We have much to be proud of from our President, but more than a few things not to be. Sorry, folks, but the man is human and Cult of Personality has no place in a representative democracy.
WOW, now "he's has no place in a representative democracy".
paleotn
(17,931 posts)....or being purposefully inaccurate? The concept of cult of personality has no place in a representative democracy. What are you, an editor for Fox News?
JI7
(89,252 posts)paleotn
(17,931 posts).....seems to me the Op would have us bow before the picture of the almighty Obama. Otherwise, what's the point? We all know what Obama looks like. We all know he's the President. We all know there are those here to whom politics is a fucking game and seem incapable of introspection no matter what their favored politician says or does. Even when those actions have a direct and very negative impact on their lives. Many here are much like Fox watching Republicans...they just support a different team. Digging into an elected leaders actual policies and holding them accountable if they go off the rails? Not much of that from the worshipers, who make a point of running away from a critic's argument like the plague, while spouting inane pejoratives.
JI7
(89,252 posts)I know many view posting on here as activism. But it really isn't.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)You did.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Threads like this it usually means 'stand with against Republican opposition'. I have yet to meet a single person who believes "Obama can do no wrong" other than the people who post "Obama can do no wrong" as a snarky response to an obviously misunderstood post.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)that "you guys" support the TPP??
I've seen little to no such support here. You seem to be looking for some kind of wholesale condimnation of the POTUS in relation to this issue or that issue.
Everything isn't reduced to an either/or proposition. THIS thread is about the spittle flinging and gratuitous insults that DON'T qualify as "criticism."
Now before you even start pounding out that next post with the same damn question, I don't "support" the TPP based upon what I know about it at this point, but that doesn't result in me screaming * POS TRAITOR * like a freaking idiot.
There is a huge difference between criticism and what has been happening here.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)in the threads discussing the TPP, support it because Pres Obama supports it.
As far as this thread goes, the OP is clearly flamebait. Pure Obama adulation threads with giant pictures in GD are begging for over-reactions.
It looks to me like the TPP will be the stake thru the heart of the middle and working classes of America. Forgive me if I react strongly.
JI7
(89,252 posts)you should avoid websites like this if you don't want to see support for the president.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)I see DU as more than just a message board to worship the President. Especially in GD. Looks to me like someone got bored posting in the BOG because there is no controversy there. Looks like flamebait to me, especially when you read down the thread.
I see DU as a place to discuss issues. But it's hard to get those that support the President completely to discuss important issues like the TPP.
JI7
(89,252 posts)people post bigoted crap and other things which really are flamebait all the time.
it says more about you that you think posting pics of the president is flamebait.
and i think the problem many of those who claim to oppose the TPP have is not really the tpp as much as just not liking the president anyone who likes him.
because nobody is stopping you from actually discussing the TPP and campaigning to try to put a stop to it. but you aren't doing any of that.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Gee, ya think?
This is useless.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Is flamebait.
You might think it is.
The question is why do you think that?
Never mind, we know the answer.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)I guess that's all you've got. Can't talk about the TPP or fracking or Wall Street or the Patriot Act.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)on the TPP or torture. Just OP after OP of supporting the personality.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I would have never started this thread if some clown didn't call him a "piece of shit." That goes far, far...far beyond the realm of legitimate discourse.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)SPEAK OUT ON POST#19
"Fuck all the deranged fucks who hate him"
Tell me how this is valid criticism of another dem.!!!!!!!
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)That's debatable.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)Now tell me how this is not "Spittle flinging" and "insults that don't qualify as criticism"
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)We're talking about criticism of the POTUS on a Democratic board. People who scream POS!1! TRAITOR!1! aren't engaging in criticism, and yes, they're fucking idiots.
Now what?
aspirant
(3,533 posts)"this thread is about spittle flinging and gratuitous insults that don't qualify as criticism"
Are you saying "Fucking idiots" and "fuck all the deranged fucks who hate him" is a valid criticism of those who voice disagreement with Obama as democrats on a democratic board? I am free to hate him on TPP and love him with ACA
Your words "huge difference between criticism and what has been happening here". EXACTLY, what is happening right here with all these FUCK insults has nothing to do with valid criticism.
Now What?
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Quote what I actually wrote:
You seem to be missing the point and dragging this nonsense into the weeds.
I know you think you have a righteous argument, or something.......
One more time, screaming *POS TRAITOR* is NOT "voicing disagreement." You give these idiots far too much credit. You're assuming good faith, I am not.
Oh, and....welcome to DU.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)You criticized the POS poster as a "fucking idiot",yet when I point out one of your comrades over the top remarks,"DERANGED FUCKS" you change the topic.
"Righteous argument or something" you're quick to pounce on others but when it's one of your own Obama worshipers, you run into the weeds and hide.
"voicing disagreement" you'll call people "Fucking Idiots" and "Deranged Fucks" and say it's valid criticism and JUST voicing disagreement. BS, you're a hypocrite, when it happens within your crowd you ignore it but when it's against your view you scream bloody murder
Welcome to reality.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Word salad.
And no, you didn't quote me verbatim.
Done here. Have the last toss, chief.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)If not, I'm sure you would have specifically pointed it out.
"word salad" what a cop-out! When you can't defend your hypocrisy you scurry back into weeds and wait for another potential, gullible schmuck to pounce on.
You don't stand for individual rights, it's just Obama worshipers vs Obama haters. When one of your Obama worshipers goes way over the top THERE"S NOT A PEEP FROM YOU.
DU Voices will be heard.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I used to blanch when I heard one person refer to another person he disliked as a "piece of shit".
On a list of epithets it's a nine or a ten, up there with the n word, the f word, the b word (for a guy) and the c-s word (for a guy).
aspirant
(3,533 posts)They are all INSULTS including Deranged Fucks
If your going to call out one, call out them all or add lousy HYPOCRITE to your list
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)There are certain epithets that if a person is to use in real time he better be prepared to throw his hands up.
Is "deranged fuck" nice, hell no, and I can't think of any/many instances where I would call someone that but calling another human being "a piece of shit" implying he is absolutely worthless is high on my list of epithets and to call President Obama that rankles me.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)You can put all the #'s, degrees you invent on epithets but "FUCKING IDIOT" absolutely worthless),"DERANGED FUCK" absolutely worthless ) POS( absolutely worthless ) are all personal, over the top insults. If you call out 1 you call out all, no matter who it is
paleotn
(17,931 posts)....did you forget what the man looks like? Or is that your little icon? Me thinks the latter. You see, on the subjects of TPP, droning US citizens without due process, chained CPI, letting US state sponsored torture just slide, not to mention the failure of his Justice department to pursue criminal indictments for those responsible for the massive CDO fraud that crashed our economy.....the silence speaks volumes. The OP doesn't have to explicitly say it. I'm smart enough to hear it loud and clear.
Cha
(297,323 posts)that's in your head, too. Spare us your psycho babble.
As a supporter of President Obama I am most definitely aware that he is human and not magic like some around here expect him to be.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)....At what point would you start having serious problems with this President's policies? Letting US state sponsored torture just slide? That was mine. Or are you a Ra, Ra, Go Team kind of Dem who'd rather not think about such things?
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)You appear to have trouble understanding that fact. Most likely due to your innate disdain and constant need to do a two thumbs down for this president out of some insatiable need. It's blinding you for the larger picture in everything he does. It's the reason why two of your posts went unanswered in this thread alone. They, like me, know your type.
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)No tag backs.
good lord.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)good lord
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Response to Bobbie Jo (Reply #95)
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Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)Phlem
(6,323 posts)But hey, he has pretty speeches and nice white teeth.
I can't forgive him for the TPP. Period end of story.
Like I said before, when he retires he's got his, we're all still fucked.
Jeezuzz!
When he gets applause despite the TPP that very much represents hero worship.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Phlem
(6,323 posts)And it won't be the last.
Unless it's a personal grievance to a member I never block anything when I'm on jury. But there are a lot of people on DU who think they're above it all so that's the risk. I'm not going to lie about anything period and will call it as I see it. The bankers and the 1% control congress and the Presidency. Yet still plenty of people in denial about it.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)think for themselves. They are taught to follow their authoritarian leaders without question. That's their reality.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)They drool more than usual then. I still remember the Tiger Beat threads with the pictures of him in the water and all the swooning.
Hekate
(90,719 posts)I was very happy he is our president in stead of Rmoney and loved his populist rhetoric when he was campaigning. Where's that guy? The medical insurance fix was monumental. But I still need a good paying job like had before Nafta after putting myself through school to pay for said medical bills..
I dotted my I's and crossed my t's and poof no job, since. Just a struggling contractor trying to make ends meet now with no certainty for a long time and now he wants to push the TPP!?
There is an absolute disconnect to his fluttery speech's and his action and I know damn well there are a lot of people who can see this.
Soon as he said "I'm a new Democrat" in his acceptance speech I new it was all bullshit and he has proven that time and time again, the third way golden child.
Remember when he threw the "professional left" under the bus on FOX? Is that the way to pump up your base? No he was backing up the Corporations and the 1%.
I cried when he was elected but he let me way down and has completely driven off the cliff.
Didn't the midterms show you what's going on.
Jeezuz
So sue me if I don't have his poster hanging on my bedroom wall.
When do we get they type of socialism he's handed to the bankers. We still have pot smokers going to jail. If you can't see the contrasts then that's not my problem because I know plenty of people who do.
Obstructionism from the Republicans? Say it isn't so.
I knew before his first day as president they were going to screw him. Do we remember the junior Bush years where the GOP just walked all over everyone? That was supposed to change after a liberal won the presidency? Naive much?
So we're all supposed to hold hands and sing Kumbya because people are holding his feet to the fire, like he asked, Oh I forget he never put his comfortable walking shoes on.
I'm glad he has helped billions of people by championing LGBT causes and the laundry list of his accomplishments, but I just wanted one thing from the guy, jobs and a better economy. I'm sure we can all agree on that but he seems bound and determined to bury that once and for all. FOR ALL OF US.
Hekate
(90,719 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Swooon!
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)But then again, I'm not wishy-washy Democrat.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)He's done a good job. Brilliant in some cases. I think he's one of our better presidents. Glad I voted for him twice. Odd that dems call him a pos.
revmclaren
(2,524 posts)Will vote the democratic primary winner as will all my family and close fiends in 2016 no matter what rants and fear mongery is posted on DU.
Happy 2015 people and may this year bring you the joy and blessings that the last year sadly lacked!
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)What they did in not forgivable.
revmclaren
(2,524 posts)Sorry, you don't speak for all of us, or even a tiny percentage. I will vote the democratic primary winner no matter what is posted here and I will support my president as well. Nice try though....
as if.
revmclaren
(2,524 posts)Well it IS playing just for you.... And yes, it is millions. Real world to DU..... reality calling..... The entire membership of DU could fit in the redneck havens of my home town so not impressed.
And I still am voting for the democratic primary winner and just for fun, I will double my efforts in 2016 to change independent and repub votes to democratic ones. My goal of 65 was exceeded in 2012, now my goal is 130+. that is about the average rec of a really good anti Obama and Hillery post. Thanks for the incentive. Makes my day if I can negate any and all antidemocratic votes. 2016.... It will be a great year. And don't bother replying to this post negative nellys.... I never put people on ignore but I don't have to waste my time with you.
Hekate
(90,719 posts)Phlem
(6,323 posts)Hekate
(90,719 posts)Have a nice day
Phlem
(6,323 posts)I have said time and time again that I have always voted Democrat and believe it or not I do the same. Try to turn Cons into free thinkers at least so they can "see the light".
I want actual Dems to vote for, not the third way and conservative policies. I'll assume you support the TPP then. I'll choose to help the country and it's citizens and vote for someone who will stand against it.
but if all you have is to brand me a "negative nelly", then that's all I need to know about you.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)They sure do.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Do you think beating us over the head with a big picture will make us like his bad policies?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)If they like the Pres so much, why can't they say they support the TPP?
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)I don't know much about since it isn't a done deal I doubt you do either.
mopinko
(70,138 posts)which, unfortunately oozes through most threads here.
So your for the TPP?
mopinko
(70,138 posts)life aint perfect. politics aint perfect. and the pres is not a king.
i trust that it will be a better deal because he is the one with the better cards.
but again, why people have to drag this shit into this thread is beyond me.
Wow, just wow.
mopinko
(70,138 posts)wow yourself.
what's your plan?
99Forever
(14,524 posts)But feel free to do just the opposite if that makes you happy.
Had to burn my pompoms. No more blind support for shit policies from this old man.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)perfect.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)LyndaG
(683 posts)Always will
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)fadedrose
(10,044 posts)Reminds me of an old song, "Lovin That Man of Mine," that goes way way back.
In spite of anything that appears to be wrong, indecisive, unpleasant or whatever, I just can't stop liking this President. I am so glad I lived long enough to see a guy like this elected President of the United States.
Happy retirement, when it comes, Mr. P... You make me want to live longer just to see what kind of trouble you get into next, and land miraculously on your feet as you always do.