Two male comedians discuss the Cosby due process "cop out"

[geek tragedy]

Marc Maron:

I’ve been feeling a little weird for not talking about the Bill Cosby situation. It is something that is happening in the world but Cosby is a comedian. My show is part of the community of comedians. I have not figured out a way to talk about it because I’m not sure what my feelings were or where I stood because I was copping out with the ‘due process’ excuse. Look, everyone deserves due process and everyone is innocent until proven guilty—in court. In life, it just doesn’t always work out that way. I found myself saying, “If he did it, he’s a horrible sociopathic serial rapist.” If he did it? Well, this is not going to court and he’s not going to cop to it. There will be no due process. The statute of limitations is presumably up in most cases and, let’s be honest, the powerful are above the law. So, I have to have an opinion. Given the number of accusations it’s become pretty clear to me that he did it. What does that mean? What happens now? I knew that Judd Apatow has been pretty outspoken on keeping the conversation alive about Cosby on Twitter so I thought I would give him a call and talk about what the reality of the accusations, the lack of response and the reality that Bill Cosby did some awful shit means at the very least to our community. It was a good talk.

Apatow:

Apatow defended the motives of the women who are speaking out against Cosby, saying it’s not like they are asking for money. “There’s nothing fun about being 70 years old and having to go on CNN and say Bill Cosby raped you,” he said, before admonishing the rest of Hollywood for failing to have the courage to support those women.

Later in the interview, Apatow said he views Cosby as “our comedy dad” and thinks it is his responsibility, as someone with two daughters, to take him to task in a public way. “The reason to say, ‘Bill Cosby is a terrible man and I believe these women’ is so women aren’t hiding in their homes in shame when people commit violent crimes against them.”

“That’s why everybody has to say, ‘I just want to go on record, I believe these women,’” Apatow continued. “But you’re not seeing important people say that. It is dead silent out there. And I find it very, very troubling.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/judd-apatow-to-marc-maron-bill-cosby-should-absolutely-be-in-prison/

This is men taking responsibility.

[digonswine]

1. I liked the conversation-

I made the mistake of reading the comments section, though

I threw up in my mouth just a bit--

it had it all--guilty without a trial, 15 minutes of fame for the victims, mindless race-card dropping--actually calling them racists for maybe thinking Cosby is a rapist--which he almost surely is.

I was just around a conservative member of my extended family lately--he flippantly disregarding the women's claims as their "15 minutes"

I expect this from faceless fucks on the net but not from someone I know. Disgusting.

[geek tragedy]

2. We see that shit at DU.

People do their Dottie Sandusky impersonations with sad frequency.

[bettyellen]

3. it is a huge cop out

[geek tragedy]

4. For people who don't want to admit they don't believe the women. nt

[bettyellen]

5. I think a lot of people think the women were greedy or foolish, or in some way brought in on

themselves, by putting themselves in that position. That way it is okay to dismiss them. Like Cosby, they have decided that it is okay to treat them like trash.

[JI7]

6. yes, it's more this than them thinking nothing happened and the women are totally lying

i think most think something did happen but they blame the women .

reading that story of how he treated that football player he seems to enjoy treating and making people feel like they are worthless.

[Cha]

7. Excellent from Marc Maron and this from Judd Apatow gets the heart of the matter..

Later in the interview, Apatow said he views Cosby as “our comedy dad” and thinks it is his responsibility, as someone with two daughters, to take him to task in a public way. “The reason to say, ‘Bill Cosby is a terrible man and I believe these women’ is so women aren’t hiding in their homes in shame when people commit violent crimes against them.”

“That’s why everybody has to say, ‘I just want to go on record, I believe these women,’” Apatow continued. “But you’re not seeing important people say that. It is dead silent out there. And I find it very, very troubling.”

thanks geek

[Jefferson23]

8. I hope the conversation remains active as well. I would like to see the entertainment industry

become mandatory reporters..they employ a significant percentage of people under 18 years of age.

There are adults in that industry that knew things at the time, no doubt in my mind about that.