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Wolf Blitzer says he has seen a picture of the dead terrorist's gf in a bikini. (Original Post) MoonRiver Jan 2015 OP
And? Mass Jan 2015 #1
Just sounds weird. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #4
Why? Mass Jan 2015 #6
We have been told they are Islamic Fundies. I don't think that women are allowed to wear bikinis sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #10
I, for one, am unconvinced that they are Islamic Fundamentalists. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #15
But what else are they, there is no "profit deal" here that we know of, right? randys1 Jan 2015 #29
What would they have had to have said or done to convince you otherwise? oberliner Jan 2015 #48
Had they not done it at all, for one. And if they hadn't shouted "Allah Akbar", etc. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #49
You think it was unusual that they shouted that phrase? oberliner Jan 2015 #50
weren't they upset over pictures of muhammed , not bikinis ? JI7 Jan 2015 #17
Yes, but they are not. Mass Jan 2015 #18
exactly, i think people forget that most of these terrorists are either nationals of western nations JI7 Jan 2015 #21
Thanks, but that is why I said it is 'what we have been told'. I remember the riots sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #36
The Daily Mail showed a picture of her in one before she converted. polly7 Jan 2015 #40
Because she's supposed to be an extremist Muslim woman. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #22
Read my post above. Mass Jan 2015 #24
I think there's an exception if it helps kill infidels. branford Jan 2015 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author big_dog Jan 2015 #28
The news networks have been showing a number of pictures of her, branford Jan 2015 #2
Cherchez la femme. Fawke Em Jan 2015 #3
Ok. I've been gone all day. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #5
Is she still at-large? Oklahoma_Liberal Jan 2015 #7
Yes, she left for Syria before the attacks. Mass Jan 2015 #9
here, it's already been reported before, with her terrorist boyfriend JI7 Jan 2015 #8
Not such a marvelous alQaeda Muslim woman after all MoonRiver Jan 2015 #13
or maybe it's what we assume about terrorists, it's the women who do wear hijabs and other things JI7 Jan 2015 #16
No hypocrisy. Just vast generalization from the West.\nt Mass Jan 2015 #20
That makes NO senses. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #30
who is they ? why did awlaki get prostitutes ? JI7 Jan 2015 #33
What are you talking about? MoonRiver Jan 2015 #34
my point is assumptions about terrorists, people assume they hate us for freedoms JI7 Jan 2015 #35
I'm not talking about what I "think." MoonRiver Jan 2015 #39
that's mostly the US which focuses on certain things JI7 Jan 2015 #42
I believe this was before she was to have converted to Islam. nt. polly7 Jan 2015 #41
Yes glasshouses Jan 2015 #43
didn't she grow up muslim ? she is of algerian descent and changed her last name to sound more JI7 Jan 2015 #45
Not according to what I read, she converted not long ago. I'll try to find it. nt. polly7 Jan 2015 #46
What, this girlfriend, Hayat Boumeddiene? NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #11
CNN, never change. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #12
Reminds me of the "White Widow" CJCRANE Jan 2015 #14
WTF! Blitzer is a freak. Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #19
Wolff just likes thinking about all those "Jezebels" that "led him astray" with their "honey pot" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #23
as they say, Wolf, pics or it does not count. AngryAmish Jan 2015 #25
Put up or shut up, Wolff dissentient Jan 2015 #27
Well you see.. he had this dream early this morning notadmblnd Jan 2015 #31
I imagine that situation got very sticky while he was down in his mother's basement. madinmaryland Jan 2015 #32
I have pics of Wolf in a Ester Williams one piece . olddots Jan 2015 #37
Hellfire missile coming your way. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #38
This was before she converted nt riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #44
God knows what goes on in the situation room after hours Blue Owl Jan 2015 #47
I'm guessing Blitzer gets to address the situation in his pants. Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2015 #51
OWED : One new monitor. bullwinkle428 Jan 2015 #52

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
10. We have been told they are Islamic Fundies. I don't think that women are allowed to wear bikinis
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:24 PM
Jan 2015

IF that is what they are.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
15. I, for one, am unconvinced that they are Islamic Fundamentalists.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:26 PM
Jan 2015

Messed up individuals, I'll grant them that much, but I'm unconvinced that they are acting on religious grounds.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
29. But what else are they, there is no "profit deal" here that we know of, right?
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:46 PM
Jan 2015

When W and Cheney and Wolfowitz and Perle and company murdered hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's and American soldiers, there was a profit motive behind it.

Political and financial.

What motive is there for these killings if not a radical religion motive?

BTW I hear some rightwing states are outlawing abortion in America, and the rightwingers in the US House are trying to do this also, the result will be murdering Women, and I will consider those politicians just as guilty as those who did the shooting in France.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
49. Had they not done it at all, for one. And if they hadn't shouted "Allah Akbar", etc.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 10:03 PM
Jan 2015

Which is so Hollywood.

These violent acts bring more grief to true Muslims, it makes no sense, it seems more likely the work of a more well organized government cell, to me.

And when I think about who has the most to gain, and realize it ain't Muslims but it might be, oh, the war profiteers and energy and resource interests, I tend to think that the thing really was scripted.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/08/muslims-fear-backlash-charlie-hebdo-grenades-islamic-france

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
50. You think it was unusual that they shouted that phrase?
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 10:19 PM
Jan 2015

It's not just Hollywood movies where that happens.

Have you seen the Nick Berg beheading video for example?

Again, I would ask what they could have said or done that would have convinced you that they were in fact Islamic radicals (or at least made you strongly believe that they were).

Mass

(27,315 posts)
18. Yes, but they are not.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:32 PM
Jan 2015

There has been a vast amalgam, left and right, in Europe and in this country, about who these people were. For the most part, they have grown up in the West and are largely European. I happen to know the place her boyfriend grew up. It is a very poor housing project, and it has been going downhills for at least 20 years. During the previous socialist government, it was considered a zone to help in priority (after another housing projects rebellion, I think, but I would guess that, with the economic crisis, the funds have been lost.

Anyway, for many of these people, asserting their origin is a way to protest, not necessarily a religious conviction. So this is not surprising.

This is not to say that nobody believes in a strict Islam, this would be going the other way, but I am not surprised there would be pictures like that.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
21. exactly, i think people forget that most of these terrorists are either nationals of western nations
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:36 PM
Jan 2015

or have a lot of familiarity with them from living there, studying etc.

these aren't some people from places like afghanistan where they have been cut off from the world and only taught religious things.

in fact many of these people are usually ignorant when it comes to discusses of the religion . this is what hostages taken by isis have said.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
36. Thanks, but that is why I said it is 'what we have been told'. I remember the riots
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:08 PM
Jan 2015

in France a few years ago. Seemed to be more about extreme poverty than religion. Anyhow, thank you for the information.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
40. The Daily Mail showed a picture of her in one before she converted.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:30 PM
Jan 2015

I'm not sure of his point, but he must have missed the date on it.

Hi Sabrina

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
22. Because she's supposed to be an extremist Muslim woman.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:38 PM
Jan 2015

Didn't know they exposed their near naked bodies to cameras.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
26. I think there's an exception if it helps kill infidels.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:41 PM
Jan 2015

However, I'm not an expert in psychopathic terrorist justifications and hypocrisy.

Response to Mass (Reply #1)

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
2. The news networks have been showing a number of pictures of her,
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:18 PM
Jan 2015

including a photo of her in a bikini at the beach with the dead terrorist boyfriend.

It's part of a narrative that she's some sort of femme fatale who seduced a two-bit criminal into a major terrorist.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
8. here, it's already been reported before, with her terrorist boyfriend
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:22 PM
Jan 2015

for those who think it's all about how women dress

JI7

(89,252 posts)
16. or maybe it's what we assume about terrorists, it's the women who do wear hijabs and other things
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:27 PM
Jan 2015

who get the worst of the attacks for being muslim, terrorist etc.

but how actual terrorists live is much different. look at the rappers, awlaki and prostitutes and many other cases of what would not be seen as "moral"

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
30. That makes NO senses.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:48 PM
Jan 2015

Why do they MAKE their women wear hijabs if they are ok with them showing themselves practically naked?

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
34. What are you talking about?
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:06 PM
Jan 2015

Do you think the terrorist's gf is a prostitute? If so, I don't think the creep would allow himself to be seen with her.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
35. my point is assumptions about terrorists, people assume they hate us for freedoms
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:07 PM
Jan 2015

or things like how people dress when it's often not the case.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
45. didn't she grow up muslim ? she is of algerian descent and changed her last name to sound more
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:53 PM
Jan 2015

french.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
46. Not according to what I read, she converted not long ago. I'll try to find it. nt.
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:54 PM
Jan 2015
Wearing a skimpy bikini with her arms wrapped around her lover's waist, this is Boumeddiene before she turned into a jihadi killer's accomplice and became France's most wanted woman.

Photographs of the 'wife' of the Kosher supermarket hostage killer reveal how she was radicalised by the man she would go on to marry.


The couple 'married' in a religious ceremony after Boumedienne, who was never seen without her veil, waited four years for him to come out of jail following his conviction for armed robbery.


She is from an Algerian background and altered her surname to ‘make it sound more French', according to an investigating source.

She told police who interviewed her as part of their inquiries into Coulibaly’s murky dealings with Islamic extremists that she had walked away from a low-paid job as a cashier in the Juvisy suburb of Paris in 2009 and taken the veil. She ‘devoted herself’ to Coulibaly.

Interrogated by police in 2010, Boumeddiene said she was inspired by her husband and the radicals she lived with to ‘read a lot of books on religion and because of this, I came to ask questions on religion’.

‘When I saw the massacre of the innocents in Palestine, in Iraq, in Chetchna, in Afghanistan or anywhere the Americans sent their bombers, all that… well, who are the terrorists?'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2903870/The-hostage-terrorists-didn-t-know-Print-worker-hid-box-texted-police-Charlie-Hebdo-gunmen-held-boss-captive-final-showdown.html

No idea if the Daily Mail is an accepted site here or not, but make of this what you will ....... I took it to mean she had not practiced Islam prior to being introduced to it by her boyfriend. (bolded by me).
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
11. What, this girlfriend, Hayat Boumeddiene?
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:24 PM
Jan 2015

I'm not innocent, may as well post it.





Wolf, what a nut.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
14. Reminds me of the "White Widow"
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:25 PM
Jan 2015

who escaped after the Nairobi mall massacre.

There seem to be common narrative elements in these attacks.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
23. Wolff just likes thinking about all those "Jezebels" that "led him astray" with their "honey pot"
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:39 PM
Jan 2015

tricks and chicanery...its the "women that have all the power" these guys think because they get rejected so much....it couldn't possibly be that the are just terrible in bed!! Why it CAN'T be that...its always those damn women and their bikinis!

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
31. Well you see.. he had this dream early this morning
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:49 PM
Jan 2015

His testosterone level was running high. You know how it is? As soon as he woke up and went pee, he was over it.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
37. I have pics of Wolf in a Ester Williams one piece .
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:09 PM
Jan 2015

Send a self adressed envelope to .................

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