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stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:27 AM Jan 2015

If we can have gun exceptions in GD, we should be able to have religion exceptions.

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Skinner (a host of the General Discussion forum).

Religion and whether it should be subjected to satire is about as hot a topic as can be. It should be an exception for a week or two.

I am saying this because I saw Nance's OP on the subject was locked and I think others have been locked too.

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If we can have gun exceptions in GD, we should be able to have religion exceptions. (Original Post) stevenleser Jan 2015 OP
I think GD hosts would surely be open to this if admins will indicate their willingness to allow hlthe2b Jan 2015 #1
I probably should have done that, but I figured if OPs are being locked, admin is aware of stevenleser Jan 2015 #7
I think they indicated that willingness... cyberswede Jan 2015 #10
Since the massacre in Paris there has been religious exception. HappyMe Jan 2015 #2
Was it posted in the link pinned to the top of GD and was the end of the exception also posted? stevenleser Jan 2015 #4
I believe it was posted in the Host Land first. HappyMe Jan 2015 #11
From SKinner's pinned GD post cyberswede Jan 2015 #3
Seems admin needs to read its own SOP again? Or was it changed without notice? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #5
That makes it even more curious that Nance's OP was locked. nt stevenleser Jan 2015 #6
Sure does Bobbie Jo Jan 2015 #12
Hosts don't lock things unless a SoP alert was sent. HappyMe Jan 2015 #13
Like a DU Star Chamber? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #14
I think you have to have a star HappyMe Jan 2015 #16
You should volunteer for a term, to see what's involved. cyberswede Jan 2015 #17
I don't understand why her thread was locked, that was a great thread. Rex Jan 2015 #8
Completely agree, Steven, and I'm not a fan of either of those topics. closeupready Jan 2015 #9
That was a weird lock Prism Jan 2015 #15
I'm wondering if it was a "Nance" lock. Some folks here don't like her and may have issued the SOP stevenleser Jan 2015 #18
It can't be discounted Prism Jan 2015 #19
I agree... Spazito Jan 2015 #20
Bizarre lock in my opinion. I don't see where it violated the "what you can and can't post" for GD. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #21
I think so, too. I am no Nance fan, but that was more meta than about religion. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #22
I have instructed the hosts to to unlock those threads. Skinner Jan 2015 #23

hlthe2b

(102,650 posts)
1. I think GD hosts would surely be open to this if admins will indicate their willingness to allow
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:30 AM
Jan 2015

Why not pm Skinner or EarlG and ask?

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
7. I probably should have done that, but I figured if OPs are being locked, admin is aware of
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:40 AM
Jan 2015

discussions about it in the Forum Hosts forum, which I can no longer see.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
10. I think they indicated that willingness...
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:42 AM
Jan 2015

in the pinned OP in GD (excerpted in reply #3 below):

www.democraticunderground.com/10026092919#post3

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
2. Since the massacre in Paris there has been religious exception.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:30 AM
Jan 2015

The admins usually decide when that exception is over.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
4. Was it posted in the link pinned to the top of GD and was the end of the exception also posted?
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:37 AM
Jan 2015

I haven't seen anything but that doesnt mean it wasnt there.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
11. I believe it was posted in the Host Land first.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:42 AM
Jan 2015

It has been quite awhile since I have been a GD host, but a halt to the gun threads was finally called.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
3. From SKinner's pinned GD post
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:36 AM
Jan 2015

(bold added)

RELIGION

Threads about current events related to religion, and threads about church-state issues are permitted under normal circumstances.

Threads about the existence/non-existence of God, threads discussing the merits (or lack thereof) of religion in general, and threads discussing the truth/untruth of religious dogma are not permitted under normal circumstances and should be posted under Religion.

Open discussion of religion is permitted during very high-profile news events which are heavily covered across all newsmedia.

ETA: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025307978

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. Seems admin needs to read its own SOP again? Or was it changed without notice?
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:37 AM
Jan 2015

Since we can not post a locked OP here to compare with the SOP...all resistance is futile.

Let the Little Voices Speak!

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
6. That makes it even more curious that Nance's OP was locked. nt
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:38 AM
Jan 2015

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
12. Sure does
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:43 AM
Jan 2015
Open discussion of religion is permitted during very high-profile news events which are heavily covered across all newsmedia


It certainly fit the criteria.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
13. Hosts don't lock things unless a SoP alert was sent.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:46 AM
Jan 2015

Then it gets discussed and voted on resulting in a 'lock' or 'leave' consensus.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
14. Like a DU Star Chamber?
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:47 AM
Jan 2015

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
16. I think you have to have a star
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:50 AM
Jan 2015

to be a host now. I haven't looked into what other criteria there may be. Changes were made because it was getting weird and disruptive in there.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
17. You should volunteer for a term, to see what's involved.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:54 AM
Jan 2015

I think every DUer should give it a try.

Forum Hosts are regular DU members who meet certain eligibility requirements. Any DU member who meets these requirements may volunteer to serve as a Forum Host. If no Hosts are assigned to a particular forum, the DU Administrators serve as Hosts. Forum Hosts have one responsibility: They lock threads which they believe violate a forum's Statement of Purpose.

There is a maximum quota of 30 Hosts. Hosts cannot serve for more than 90 consecutive days and must maintain a 100% chance of serving on a jury.


 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
8. I don't understand why her thread was locked, that was a great thread.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:42 AM
Jan 2015

It has to do with current events so I am just a curious as you are. Especially since other threads in the same vein are still unlocked and getting replies.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
9. Completely agree, Steven, and I'm not a fan of either of those topics.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:42 AM
Jan 2015

K&R

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
15. That was a weird lock
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:49 AM
Jan 2015

It didn't seem any more out of line than any other recent OP on the topic that hasn't been.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
18. I'm wondering if it was a "Nance" lock. Some folks here don't like her and may have issued the SOP
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jan 2015

alert. If hers was locked there are several dozen others that should be locked, as you noted.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
19. It can't be discounted
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:01 PM
Jan 2015

I'm not her biggest fan, but the OP was perfectly in line with other OPs posted within the past two weeks. Heck, there are two very active threads on the same subject still running.

Seems odd to lock GD threads on a subject that is raging across Western media right now.

Spazito

(50,743 posts)
20. I agree...
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:04 PM
Jan 2015

Scrolling down I see numerous threads on religion unlocked yet Nance's thread is singled out for a lock. Either the exception on religious threads is over and the other threads will be locked as well or the decision to lock only some threads is unfairly subjective, imo.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,655 posts)
21. Bizarre lock in my opinion. I don't see where it violated the "what you can and can't post" for GD.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:19 PM
Jan 2015

Seemed to me to be more a concern about civility.

Sure the replies had the potential for getting into the "validity or non-validity of religion" area, but given the highly topical and current discussions concerning free speech and religion I don't see how it wouldn't qualify for an exception.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
22. I think so, too. I am no Nance fan, but that was more meta than about religion.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:21 PM
Jan 2015

I didn't say 'disruptive' meta. Just meta and the discussion was long and interesting. I imagine my thread and a few others are also about to be locked to keep up appearances.

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
23. I have instructed the hosts to to unlock those threads.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:23 PM
Jan 2015
Open discussion of religion is permitted during very high-profile news events which are heavily covered across all newsmedia.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025307978

Now I'm locking this thread.

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