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Javaman

(62,530 posts)
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:13 AM Jan 2015

Welfare For Me, Not For Thee: Joni Ernst Edition...

http://www.readingisforsnobs.com/2015/01/welfare-for-me-not-for-thee-joni-ernst.html

The truth about her family’s farm roots and living within one’s means, however, is more complex. Relatives of Ernst (née: Culver), based in Red Oak, Iowa (population: 5,568) have received over $460,000 in farm subsidies between 1995 and 2009. Ernst’s father, Richard Culver, was given $14,705 in conservation payments and $23,690 in commodity subsidies by the federal government–with all but twelve dollars allocated for corn support. Richard’s brother, Dallas Culver, benefited from $367,141 in federal agricultural aid, with over $250,000 geared toward corn subsidies. And the brothers’ late grandfather Harold Culver received $57,479 from Washington—again, mostly corn subsidies—between 1995 and 2001. He passed away in January 2003.

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Welfare For Me, Not For Thee: Joni Ernst Edition... (Original Post) Javaman Jan 2015 OP
Bread sacks for everyone else! liberal N proud Jan 2015 #1
Wonder woman underpants Jan 2015 #6
and she has the monumental gaul to stand up in public easychoice Jan 2015 #2
There is a web site that list all farmers subsidies liberal N proud Jan 2015 #12
We have a lot of those here in my county madokie Jan 2015 #33
I was shocked at what a cousin of mine made liberal N proud Jan 2015 #36
Forget that she became a Socialist when she joined the Military, working on the taxpayer's dime. TheBlackAdder Jan 2015 #3
Excellent point. Thanks. (nt) Paladin Jan 2015 #7
She sure sounds like a REAL taker... 2naSalit Jan 2015 #9
her military career: niyad Jan 2015 #14
Her husband was in the military too. Skidmore Jan 2015 #35
She's been on the taxpayers' dime since she graduated from college, in one way or another. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #38
... and Paul Ryan and just about every other GOP Critter Myrina Jan 2015 #4
I am sorry, Kali Jan 2015 #5
But most of them drive brand new P/U trucks... 2naSalit Jan 2015 #11
You forgot to add in the value of the government contracts joni phoney sent his way. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #39
She's anti choice and anti gay, opposed to the Federal Minimum Wage, wishes to dismantle the EPA Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #8
+1 merrily Jan 2015 #21
We agree, madokie Jan 2015 #34
Let me see if I understand you correctly. You're saying that "many at DU" don't want to attack ND-Dem Jan 2015 #41
It's clear who the breadwinner was in that family Blue Owl Jan 2015 #10
My family was well off lancer78 Jan 2015 #13
But the richest part.. kentuck Jan 2015 #15
I just read her bio on wiki--phyllis schlafly jr., apparently. niyad Jan 2015 #16
She pulled herself up by her breadbags and.... femmocrat Jan 2015 #17
If you go to the county assessors site there and search their database for Skidmore Jan 2015 #18
I have long noticed that those most opposed to welfare SheilaT Jan 2015 #19
It's because farming is unpredictable and the markets unstable. hunter Jan 2015 #22
Maybe. But I find it offensive and outrageous SheilaT Jan 2015 #23
So do I. It's like rural Republicans somehow "deserve" government subsidy... hunter Jan 2015 #24
And here comes the TPP! woo me with science Jan 2015 #20
How can she be so hypocritical?! Oh wait.. she's republicon. Throwin the con at the SOTU Cha Jan 2015 #25
I'm no Joni fan, but... CincyDem Jan 2015 #26
She is morally bankrupt azmom Jan 2015 #28
Thanks for clearing that up... CincyDem Jan 2015 #30
I know for a fact azmom Jan 2015 #32
That's fine... CincyDem Jan 2015 #37
Conservation Reserve Program is sort of like renting land to the government. HereSince1628 Jan 2015 #27
Farm subsidies won't be on the chopping block ever. They are sacrosanct. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #29
Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jan 2015 #31
Aw damn another republican welfare queen workinclasszero Jan 2015 #40

easychoice

(1,043 posts)
2. and she has the monumental gaul to stand up in public
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jan 2015

and tell everyone how poor she is.
I was going to call the county agent today and find out what her subsidies are.You saved me the call.
What a phony scumbag.

liberal N proud

(60,335 posts)
12. There is a web site that list all farmers subsidies
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:25 PM
Jan 2015

I can't find it now, but used it once when I was saw a sign deriding mothers on welfare in a farm field in Iowa. When I located the farm and the owner which took some time, I learned the land owner was making several hundred thousand each year.

Then I had to look at how much my poor cousin was making as well.


On edit, this might be it: http://farm.ewg.org/region.php?fips=19000

madokie

(51,076 posts)
33. We have a lot of those here in my county
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 12:01 PM
Jan 2015

some of the names makes me shake my head in wonderment. Now i understand the horde of farm equipment some of these folks have. All brought to them by us the tax payers.

liberal N proud

(60,335 posts)
36. I was shocked at what a cousin of mine made
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 01:34 PM
Jan 2015

A poor farmer in western Iowa just scratching the dirt to get buy, we grew up with stories of how they ate popcorn at night because it was so hard for them.

Turns out they were pulling in all this cash, driving nice cars and new implements every year.

TheBlackAdder

(28,205 posts)
3. Forget that she became a Socialist when she joined the Military, working on the taxpayer's dime.
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:28 AM
Jan 2015

It was an easy job to get and hold.

She sure likes her pension, her benefits, and the guaranteed government job she had.


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I wonder how many times she hits those TAXPAYER SUBSIDIZED and TAX FREE Commissaries?

I wonder how many times she enjoys those TAX FREE Exchanges?

niyad

(113,323 posts)
14. her military career:
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 01:54 PM
Jan 2015

Military career

Ernst is a lieutenant colonel in the logistics branch and currently commands the 185th Combat Sustainment Support Battalion at Camp Dodge, the largest battalion in the Iowa Army National Guard.[11][12] As of 2014, Ernst had served 21 years between the Army Reserve and the National Guard. She spent 14 months in Kuwait in 2003-2004 as a company commander during Operation Iraqi Freedom.[9][13][14]

. . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joni_Ernst

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
38. She's been on the taxpayers' dime since she graduated from college, in one way or another.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 11:46 PM
Jan 2015

And she funneled graft money to her father's construction compant as soon as she started working in government.

Oh, she's a gem, she is.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
4. ... and Paul Ryan and just about every other GOP Critter
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:29 AM
Jan 2015

really sick shallow, greedy fuckers, aren't they?

Kali

(55,011 posts)
5. I am sorry,
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:30 AM
Jan 2015

but less than 40K in ag payments in Iowa of all places over 14 years is not much. (her father)

as much as a problem that corn policy is, the payments to growers "benefits" people and markets all down the chain. I don't think the criticism of those payments should be aimed at most farmers, as they are trapped in a fucked up system as much as anybody.

2naSalit

(86,636 posts)
11. But most of them drive brand new P/U trucks...
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jan 2015

while their kids wear breadbags on their feet?

She a poseur...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. She's anti choice and anti gay, opposed to the Federal Minimum Wage, wishes to dismantle the EPA
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jan 2015

and privatize Medicare. For what it's worth, she is also opposed to chemo patients having access to cannabis.

I get the feeling that many on DU are uncomfortable with attacking her on policy issues because some of her worst policy positions are shared by public figures they openly admire and defend from criticism for their anti gay and anti choice views.
I think she is shitty because her policies are shitty, included on the shit list are her anti gay and anti choice views. Those are shitty views.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
41. Let me see if I understand you correctly. You're saying that "many at DU" don't want to attack
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 11:53 PM
Jan 2015

her on policy issues because her positions are the same as anti-gay and anti-choice politicians DUers admire?

So "many" DUers "admire" politicians who want to privatize Medicare, end the federal minimum wage, get rid of EPA and are also anti-gay and anti-choice.

Who are these politicians 'admired' by DUers, and where do they live, Bizarro-World? Please name these fascist politicians so 'admired' by 'many' DUers.

I'd say that's a steaming crock of s**t you're pushing (repeatedly, I might add).

Right, 'many' at DU hold the same positions as a near-fascist right wing/teaparty Republican politicians who wants to dismantle everything the Democratic party stands for.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
13. My family was well off
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:29 PM
Jan 2015

but we used bread bags in our shoes during the winter to keep our feet dry. A lot of people do that in the northern plains no matter their socio-economic position.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
15. But the richest part..
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 01:58 PM
Jan 2015

...is that she had to use those bread bags when Reagan was the President. At least, she had some bread.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
17. She pulled herself up by her breadbags and....
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 02:02 PM
Jan 2015

exchanged them for cake boxes (as in "let them eat cake&quot !

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
18. If you go to the county assessors site there and search their database for
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 02:05 PM
Jan 2015

properties belonging to Culver, you will find that there is a good bit of acreage being held in her mother's name as well.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
19. I have long noticed that those most opposed to welfare
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 02:05 PM
Jan 2015

for others are the farmers who get subsidy payments. They haven't a clue that it's welfare, pure and simple. Forty grand a year is a very healthy chunk of change. I live on less than that myself, as I'm sure do many others here.

It's hypocrisy, pure and simple, and they never get called out on it. I honestly, honestly do not understand why we have these subsidy payments. I've heard many times about how tough life is for farmers and how these are needed, but times are tough for many people, and they don't get this money.

hunter

(38,316 posts)
22. It's because farming is unpredictable and the markets unstable.
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 02:18 PM
Jan 2015

The original intent was to keep farmers on their farms, stabilize markets, and give farmers an incentive to conserve their lands' productivity.

In the modern world employment in any field is unstable, lifetime careers are much rarer than they used to be. A better approach is not to deny farm subsidies, but to increase subsidies to any employees who are displaced by unstable markets.


 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
23. Maybe. But I find it offensive and outrageous
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 04:24 PM
Jan 2015

that farmers accept all that government money, usually quite generous amounts, far above whatever someone on welfare gets, and thinks that "those people" who are on welfare are not only undeserving but are living very high on the hog.

hunter

(38,316 posts)
24. So do I. It's like rural Republicans somehow "deserve" government subsidy...
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 05:38 PM
Jan 2015

... but other hard working people don't.

I'm certain racism plays a part for many of them.

Subsidies are okay for them, but not for some black or brown working person who's facing a "bad season" or depressed prices in a non-farm business.

CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
26. I'm no Joni fan, but...
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jan 2015


She did a hell of a lot better with her National Guard service than Shrub - and look how far he got. Sounds like she showed up (it's probably hard to fudge 21 years of service not showing up) and she did it at a time when the National Guard presented some serious risks vis-a-vis deployment. And it sounds like she didn't have daddy to get her out of it. So in the grand scheme of things (bread bags and all) she's probably a decent person. Let's not get caught up in the ad hominem attacks that leave both sides looking like petty grade schoolers.

Her ideas are a total f'ing disaster for the country and represent the best of 1955 conservative thinking. We can make fun of her shoes, her teeth (where did she get that's whitening toothpaste) or her bread bags but that's all noise - we should be focused on the fact that she is now front and center as the face of the American Taliban that we affectionally call the Republican Party.




CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
30. Thanks for clearing that up...
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 12:49 AM
Jan 2015


Obviously you've got a much closer relationship with her than I do. Almost sounds like a Palinism - "I can see your moral bankruptcy from our back porch". LOL

CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
37. That's fine...
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 11:42 PM
Jan 2015


...as long as she didn't sell those plastic bread bags. The Smithsonian will want them for their retrospective display featuring "one hit wonders". Joni will be right there next to The Knack (My Sharona), Toni Basil (Hey Mickey You're so Fine), and Sarah Palin (I read a lot of newspapers).

LOL

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
27. Conservation Reserve Program is sort of like renting land to the government.
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 07:16 PM
Jan 2015

If the conservation payments in this story are for that, it should be thought of more as rent and rather less like welfare.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
29. Farm subsidies won't be on the chopping block ever. They are sacrosanct.
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 08:23 PM
Jan 2015

It can be argued that we all benefit from lower food prices because of these subsidies, but actually feeding the poorest among us ... not so much.

It's true, Joni's family took government handouts. Media Matters has this to say about it.
http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/01/21/media-ignore-the-government-subsidies-helping-j/202221

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