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Cleita

(75,480 posts)
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:58 PM Jan 2015

My college roommate was the kid of Kansas farmers.

She was not poor. Farm subsidies made it possible for families like hers who had acreage and actually worked the land to have a comfortable middle class life. I suspect that Joni Ernst had such privilege also because of farm subsidies. Now she's set out to bite the hand that fed her, her family and farmers across the nation before her.

I call bullshit on her Depression era bread bag story.

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misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
1. Depression era is right. long before Ernst arrived so I call b.s. on her poor me story.
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 01:16 PM
Jan 2015

She's a liar.
A teabilly dream.
And ya know they are dressing her up to be someone's VP pick.
Like they did with freak Palin.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
7. Maybe that could be a good thing or at least a funny one.
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 01:45 PM
Jan 2015

Imagine Ted Cruz or Bobby Jindle with her as a running mate.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
8. lol..or maybe McCain will try it again with a VP as nasty as Palin.
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 01:50 PM
Jan 2015

God help us all.
Seriously, Cruz/Ernst would be a crazy kind of fun though

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
2. I think there were three generations in her family who had accepted farm subsidies. They were not
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 01:23 PM
Jan 2015

the truly poor in IOWA. That fact was in a post from last night. Even giving the amount that her grandfather, father and brother received.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
9. Most farm families who aren't tenant farmers and who own their own land
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 01:50 PM
Jan 2015

probably have enough to eat and a roof over their heads. It seems to me it's debt that pulls them down, not lack of resources.

My husband, who was Irish, told me stories of the rural children walking to a school barefoot so as not to ruin their good shoes for Mass on Sunday.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
10. I agree that it is debt that pulls farmers down. For generations now most farmers have had to
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 02:01 PM
Jan 2015

go to the bank to borrow enough every spring just to put their crops in the field. Then there is new equipment that is needed and very expensive. And in the 60s the old farm houses that were built many years before needed to be replaced so farmers went to the banker again to borrow to build that new house. And finally many times it is more than one generation living off one farm so grandpa and grandma are living in town and the son/daughter is also trying to support them while raising the third generation.

This is what pulls the smaller farmers down. I do not know about the huge farms that have been able to buy up the land every time one of those smaller farmers go down.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
3. She was born in 1970 -- so her "Depression era" was the Reagan farm crisis
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 01:29 PM
Jan 2015
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1985-01-23/news/8501050158_1_farm-economy-farm-states-farm-aid

January 23, 1985

The Iowa congressional delegation and a group of its top state officials, including Gov. Terry Branstad, called on the Reagan administration Tuesday to make good on a campaign promise for $650 million in credit relief for financially hard-pressed Midwestern farmers.

Republican Sen. Charles Grassley said that Budget Director David Stockman is a major obstacle in getting the White House to take the farm-credit crisis seriously and that unless he does, "we may have to call for his resignation."

Grassley`s Senate colleague, freshman Democrat Tom Harkin, noting farm protests across the nation, warned that the "specter of widespread violence thoughout the Midwest is there." He said farmers may "take to the streets" to protest government inaction. He predicted small runs on banks and bankruptcy for some small businesses whose health is tied to the farm economy.


http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id395.htm

In the early 1970s, lowered trade barriers coupled with record Soviet purchases of American grain resulted in a sharp increase in agricultural exports. Farm incomes and commodity prices soared. [FN3] The removal of restrictions on Federal Land Bank lending, coupled with increased lending by other entities for farmland purchases in the Seventies, led to rising land values. Conveniently low interest rates persuaded many farmers -- and would-be farmers -- to go deeply into debt on the assumption that commodity prices and land values would continue to rise. [FN4] Farm household income had been below the national average in the 1960s; in the next decade it was higher than the national average for every year except one. But it would return to the 1960s levels in the Eighties. The agricultural "boom" didn't last long.

This essay will explore how the American farm community, the Reagan administration, and the American public responded to the crisis. We will briefly examine the history of federal farm policy since the New Deal and determine the ways in which it contributed to the disaster of the 1980s. We will see how the political ramifications of the Reagan "market-oriented" approach to the farm problem resulted in a confused administration policy that remained largely unchanged from those of previous administrations, and how that policy affected the future of American farmers as well as consumers and taxpayers.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/06/941612/-Des-Moines-Register-Forgets-Reagan-s-Devastation-of-Iowa

I am the grandson of an Iowa corn farmer. My grandfather was fortunate to make it through the 1980's farm crisis without losing the family farm where my father's family grew up.

But many thousands of others weren't so lucky.

Now, Reagan didn't cause the farm crisis. There were many factors at play including shrinking export markets and higher interest rates, not all of which can be attributed to the Reagan administration. Never the less, Reagan drug his feet in response to the crisis. His laissez-faire attitude let it fester. He figured the free market would take care of it.

And it did. The free market caused Willie Nelson to stage a concert. Because that's what we want from our government, to sit idly by while our country crumbles, and let celebrity fund-raisers solve all of our problems. That's the free market way!

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
4. It seems Iowans should stop voting in borrowed brains like her.
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 01:34 PM
Jan 2015

It seems they are trying to do the same with what's left of our safety nets across the board.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
5. Some farmers received farm subsidies...others did not. Black farmers never received subsidies like
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 01:37 PM
Jan 2015

white farmers. They actually grew planted crops, harvested and sold their crops by traveling around to markets and roadside stands. I don't think my family was "poor" because we always had plenty to eat. The crops were shared with the part of the family that lived in the city. Kids from the city spent summers helping out on the farms and helping them get ready for fall and winter.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
6. I'm sort of against farm subsidies today, I hate to admit.
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 01:43 PM
Jan 2015

I live in an agricultural area, but the farm subsidies are going to the giant farm corporations. I think that needs to stop and should be limited to the traditional family farm.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
12. Subsidies were originally started to keep the cost of food down. I wonder if that is still having
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 02:10 PM
Jan 2015

that effect? Other than that I agree if it is not keeping food prices down then no more for the big guy.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
13. Her version of bread bags is bullshit
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 04:05 PM
Jan 2015

Over your shoes wouldn't last 10 feet - she has no freaking clue. I'm willing to bet that she's never had a bread bag on anything other than her dominant hand while grabbing for the last slices.

INSIDE boots that were not, or were no longer, waterproof will keep your socks dry and so your feet somewhat warmer. I've done it, to go out and play in wet, slushy snow.

She is a fraud.

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