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trumad

(41,692 posts)
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 10:31 AM Jan 2015

I've been thinking about those high school kids who smacked the shit out of Fox errrr news.

I took journalism in High School and remember clearly learning the tenets/rules of Journalism. The reason the video is so great is that it lays bare how little Fox News uses the tenants and rules. Simply put---they don't---hence it is not Journalism.

This video is one of the great take-downs I have witnessed in a very long time and I'm damn proud of these kids.


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I've been thinking about those high school kids who smacked the shit out of Fox errrr news. (Original Post) trumad Jan 2015 OP
Saw this yesterday libodem Jan 2015 #1
The tenants of journalism Cirque du So-What Jan 2015 #2
LOL trumad Jan 2015 #3
Tenets are good, tenants are better? Tsiyu Jan 2015 #14
Yep, from the mouth of babes. zeemike Jan 2015 #4
Maybe...... MyOwnPeace Jan 2015 #7
I think you are on to something. zeemike Jan 2015 #27
outstanding! mopinko Jan 2015 #5
Hope too that they don't get bvf Jan 2015 #12
When I watched it yesterday, I was really proud that these kids are our future. Raine1967 Jan 2015 #6
Will CNN mention the video? Anyone in the MSM, I wonder..it is real newsworthy stuff.. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #9
I (sadly) doubt it. It is truly newsworthy. Raine1967 Jan 2015 #10
Absolutely. Basic journalism is....basic. But the real question is, is it ballsworthy? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #11
All the other networks live in fear of Fox and RW radio NewJeffCT Jan 2015 #16
That would seem to qualify Fox as domestic terrorists and the rest as victims..could be but I am Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #19
Goebbels would have wept upon seeing this video and all his propaganda techniques laid bare. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #8
I think someone should 2naSalit Jan 2015 #13
Yes it is, and well worth re-posting.. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #15
Amen to all these positive comments. oldandhappy Jan 2015 #17
Well, they (or their teacher) obviously feel very strongly about being labeled "liberals" RiverLover Jan 2015 #18
Amazing Students! Thespian2 Jan 2015 #20
I want to move to Vermont PumpkinAle Jan 2015 #21
THEM'S MAH PEEPS! gregcrawford Jan 2015 #24
Lucky you PumpkinAle Jan 2015 #32
A first rate smack down malaise Jan 2015 #22
I was a reporter on our high school newspaper and we actually got Cleita Jan 2015 #23
Thank Reagan... gregcrawford Jan 2015 #25
You are right. Cleita Jan 2015 #26
Yes, Raygun, and then Clinton put the final nail in the coffin :( 2banon Jan 2015 #36
Saw it. Love it. Gives me Hope. joanbarnes Jan 2015 #28
Serious question: Does O'Reilly claim to be a journalist? Buzz Clik Jan 2015 #29
Actually, Fox doesn't claim shows like O'Reilly are part of their "News" Quixote1818 Jan 2015 #34
My dad was president of the Washington chapter of the Society for Professional Journalists DFW Jan 2015 #30
+1 trumad Jan 2015 #35
I love that well thought out take down of fox "news".. Their framing of "Code of Violation" and Cha Jan 2015 #31
What I love is they make that Fox segment look absolutly rediculous! Quixote1818 Jan 2015 #33

libodem

(19,288 posts)
1. Saw this yesterday
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 10:40 AM
Jan 2015

And it was outstanding. My mom was an English and journalism major in college. She would agree with these students.

Cirque du So-What

(25,939 posts)
2. The tenants of journalism
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 10:41 AM
Jan 2015

are those the characters who live rent-free in the heads of FAUX bloviators? Sorry, Tru, couldn't resist.

I am also proud of these students and their brilliant production.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
4. Yep, from the mouth of babes.
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 10:50 AM
Jan 2015

Well they are not babies but young adults...but still.
They must have had teachers that taught them to think for themselves...something that is becoming rare now.
They deserve our complements.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
7. Maybe......
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 11:24 AM
Jan 2015

the kids didn't have to be taking a "standardized" test every week to "prove" how our schools are failing and we need to have vouchers and private enterprise to take them over. (need the "sarcasm" thingie......)

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
12. Hope too that they don't get
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jan 2015

corrupted in the process. I don't mean that to sound cynical--hooray for these kids, and their educators.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
10. I (sadly) doubt it. It is truly newsworthy.
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 11:31 AM
Jan 2015

I like the part where they mentioned that they are challenging the New York Times as well.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
16. All the other networks live in fear of Fox and RW radio
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 12:18 PM
Jan 2015

If Fox gets called out too vigorously by the other networks, then we'll hear non-stop screaming from Fox, RW radio and all the RW news rags about anything close to potential bias on the other networks. Remember, one questionable case of liberal bias on another network is equal to a month's worth of propaganda on Fox News.

Then, the network heads will get death threats from the wingnuts as well, which I also think keeps people in line.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
19. That would seem to qualify Fox as domestic terrorists and the rest as victims..could be but I am
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 12:33 PM
Jan 2015

more convinced it is a plan, a poor excuse the Media Oligarths all use as cover.

2naSalit

(86,628 posts)
13. I think someone should
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 12:03 PM
Jan 2015

get this into the hands of those who would put it up on the TeeVee screen like Jon Stewart, John Oliver, Rachel Maddow or Chris Hayes... those kinds of individuals who have large audiences.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
17. Amen to all these positive comments.
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 12:20 PM
Jan 2015

Saw the video yesterday and it boosted my faith in both education and young folk coming along the path of life. And showed how accurate the WH name tags were with leaving 'news' off the Fox tags. Smile.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
18. Well, they (or their teacher) obviously feel very strongly about being labeled "liberals"
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 12:25 PM
Jan 2015

since they went to this length to prove Fox was wrong to say they're a liberal state.

I like the takedown of Fox, but at the same time, I am sad to see liberals called "mindless" & the implicit agreement with Fox that being liberal is a bad thing. One they have to disprove being.

Signed,
Proud Liberal

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
20. Amazing Students!
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 12:37 PM
Jan 2015

Not that Fux or their sheeple will pay the slightest attention to the factual truth spoken by these young people.

Remember Fux's viewers, what few they have, are aged 65 and over, and enjoy being made more stupid by Fux lies.

Even if Billy-O has 3 million viewers, as he claims, what percentage of the population is that?

Does anyone take the POS jesse watters seriously?

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
21. I want to move to Vermont
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 01:12 PM
Jan 2015

.............. Bennington looks great. Wish I were younger, I would be there in a heartbeat.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
24. THEM'S MAH PEEPS!
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 01:38 PM
Jan 2015

Though I live in the middle of the state. I wasn't born here, but I got here as fast as I could when I was 30. that was 38 years ago. Damn... I just reminded myself that I'm OLD!

Those kids did a magnificent job of blowing up Bullshit Mountain, as Jon Stewart calls Pox News. I hope that evil bag of rat excrement, O'Reilly, sees this and has an aneurism!

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
23. I was a reporter on our high school newspaper and we actually got
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 01:35 PM
Jan 2015

graded by our English teachers on it. Most of the news shows today, not only Fox, would have gotten an "F".

I always thought that media outlets that claimed to be news should be required to follow journalism standards, or else not legally be allowed to claim they are news. The rest would be required to label themselves as opinion, propaganda or even fiction.

Yet every time I suggest something along these lines here on DU, I get berated for not honoring people's right of freedom of speech. Don't I have a right to accurate reporting?

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
25. Thank Reagan...
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 01:44 PM
Jan 2015

... for abolishing the Fairness Doctrine. That opened the door for Murdoch and Ailes to unleash Pox News on the world. A similar statute in Canada is why Pox News cannot broadcast there.

I agree with you that the freedom of speech should not be perverted into the freedom to lie. But then, Republicans wouldn't be able to talk at all! And then what would we have to laugh at?

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
36. Yes, Raygun, and then Clinton put the final nail in the coffin :(
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 11:55 AM
Jan 2015

When he signed off on the Telecommunications Act - 1996 which removed significant anti-trust barriers and opened the flood gates to mega media monopolies we saw come to fruition almost immediately after that act was signed. The irony was that it all came to bite Clinton in the ass despite his attempt to be their darling.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
29. Serious question: Does O'Reilly claim to be a journalist?
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 06:24 PM
Jan 2015

The piece the kids were slamming was some half-assed bit you might see on a fake news show like The Daily Show or Colbert.

Quixote1818

(28,937 posts)
34. Actually, Fox doesn't claim shows like O'Reilly are part of their "News"
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 12:05 AM
Jan 2015

However, the problem is all those shows are on "Fox News". It's a way of making people think it's news then hiding behind saying only their segments with Shepard Smith and Brett Baher are actual news. Technically you are right but the vast majority of the public is manipulated by Fox to think it's all news.

DFW

(54,387 posts)
30. My dad was president of the Washington chapter of the Society for Professional Journalists
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 07:11 PM
Jan 2015

He was also president of the Gridiron Club. Received the Thomas L. Stokes award, etc etc etc. He took his job VERY seriously.

He puked at what an incipient Fox "News" was making out of his profession (he died in 2000), and he would have been one of the loudest crusaders against the perversion of his profession that Fox has become. He lived through the rise of the Nazis, the use of state media for propaganda purposes by the Soviets and their post-war clones. He knew EXACTLY what was legit and what was not. He got praise from members of Congress from both parties (and the Republicans respected him, even as they screamed at what he wrote, because he dug out the truth before he sent it for publication) in the Congressional Record.

He would have applauded the young people in this film as his successors in spirit, and hopefully, in reality. With his family connections, he could have gotten himself a far more prestigious career start. Instead, he ended up being what he was 50 years before he died: a Washington correspondent in a one-man tiny bureau for a small paper in a one-horse town in upstate New York. Why? Because it's what he wanted to do. It seems to me that the kids in this film want to follow him. Somewhere, he is cheering them on. So am I.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
31. I love that well thought out take down of fox "news".. Their framing of "Code of Violation" and
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 08:01 PM
Jan 2015

their "Serial Distorted Perceptions"! fox Messed with the wrong Town of Bennington, Vermont!

And, as I said yesterday..

Fox "news" is a Propaganda Pusher.. nothing more. No wonder the White House didn't put "news" on their table placement cards.

Excellent.. thank you, buster and thank you Vermont High School kids! Just brilliant.. they know what's going on more than all those adult fox "truthers".

Quixote1818

(28,937 posts)
33. What I love is they make that Fox segment look absolutly rediculous!
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 11:58 PM
Jan 2015

Like a bunch of fucking condescending, dishonest, fucktards who have no fucking idea how clueless they look and how utterly un-professional they are. What those kids did deserves a some kind of media, journalism award.
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