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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 02:30 PM Jan 2015

Sororities Discussing Letting Chapters Host Parties With Alcohol to Change University Rape Culture



Right now, most fraternities allow parties that serve alcohol and almost no sororities do, but sisters are arguing, according to the New York Times, that sorority parties would allow students “the option to attend Greek house parties that women control, from setting off-limits areas to deciding the content of the punch.” It’s an idea that is startling in both its simplicity and its brilliance. Of course it’s going to be harder for rapists to rape in female-controlled environments. It’s no cure-all and there are some implementation issues, but having more parties where women are controlling the alcohol and the space would be a really great step towards reducing the opportunities for would-be rapists to get access to potential victims.

Traditional rape prevention advice is usually focused on telling women to give up freedom and control over their own lives: Don’t go out at night, don’t be alone with men, don’t drink alcohol, don’t wear sexy clothes, don’t don’t don’t’. Feminists object to this advice because it’s condescending and ineffective, but also because putting the onus on women to prevent rape often provides a get-out-of-jail-free card for rapists. After all, if you got raped, many people reason, it’s because you failed in your duty to follow that extensive list of “don’ts”. In the eyes of police and juries, that often makes it the victim’s fault and not the rapists.

Traditional rape prevention advice also has a deeper, more philosophical problem, in that it basically concedes to the rapists’s power. After all, rape is a crime of dominance, usually of men asserting dominance over women. By telling women to give up freedom that men get to have, rapists win. Even if they aren’t dominating a woman directly by raping her, they are dominating women generally by taking away control over our own lives. But this idea proposed by sorority sisters subverts that by suggesting that what women need is not less control over their lives, but more. Instead of telling women to give up freedom by going to fewer parties, they are telling women to seize power and not only party if they want, but to be in charge of the parties themselves. Instead of trying to fight rape by giving into male dominance, they are undermining male dominance.

All of which suggests that this can be more than just a small fix to reduce rapes that happen within the Greek system, but the beginning of a real paradigm shift. Instead of narrowly focusing on a bunch of individual choices women can make that will supposedly stop rape, perhaps the real key is to confront male dominance over the social sphere and find ways to give women more power and more control over partying, dating, and other social occasions that are all too frequently treated as opportunities by rapists. It’s a much better bet than telling women to give up enjoying their lives and live in fear of rapists. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/george-washington-university-sorority-anti-rape-party
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Sororities Discussing Letting Chapters Host Parties With Alcohol to Change University Rape Culture (Original Post) big_dog Jan 2015 OP
Amanda Marcotte supports the idea bluestateguy Jan 2015 #1
the frats were always begging for money from members when I was in school big_dog Jan 2015 #3
An interesting idea mythology Jan 2015 #2
most soroities dont allow alochol in the US, and more and more of the mens are abstaining big_dog Jan 2015 #4

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
1. Amanda Marcotte supports the idea
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 02:34 PM
Jan 2015

I think it is worth looking at. No, it will not be a silver bullet, but it may help. Let the women control the wild parties, and things may move in a better direction.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
3. the frats were always begging for money from members when I was in school
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 02:51 PM
Jan 2015

how are they guys going to produce any revenue except for dues? (and football tailgaiting parties maybe) but good for the ladies for figuring out a potential solution here

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
2. An interesting idea
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 02:37 PM
Jan 2015

I wouldn't have guessed that sororities didn't hold parties. But then again, I went through college and grad school without going to a party, so I was never up on who had the parties.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
4. most soroities dont allow alochol in the US, and more and more of the mens are abstaining
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 02:57 PM
Jan 2015

insurance issues , liability etc... this is the $64,000 question can the gals get insurance rates low enough to serve booze and still break even or show a small balance

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