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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:17 AM Jan 2015

NFL Will Try To Pin 'Deflategate' On A Locker Room Attendant

Breaking news: sources tell @FOXSports the NFL has zeroed in on a locker room attendant w Patriots who allegedly took balls from officials locker room to another area on way to field. Sources say they have interviewed him and additionally have video. Still gauging if any wrong doing occurred with him but he is strong person of interest
http://m.tmi.me/1eXHpm





Deflategate has taken another twist.

FOX Sports has learned that the NFL has zeroed in on a New England Patriots locker-room attendant in connection with the scandal of improperly inflated footballs used in the AFC championship game against the Indianapolis Colts.

The person of interest was already interviewed by the league. The NFL is trying to determine whether any wrongdoing by this individual occurred, sources tell FOX Sports.

There is surveillance video showing the attendant taking the footballs from the official's locker room into another room at Gillette Stadium before bringing them out to the field, sources tell FOX Sports.

The NFL confiscated 11 of 12 footballs at halftime that were under the league-mandated air pressure of 12.5 PSI. The league has since launched an investigation into the matter.



http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/deflategate-fallout-nfl-focusing-on-patriots-locker-room-attendant-012615
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/26/deflategate-locker-room-attendant_n_6549608.html
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NFL Will Try To Pin 'Deflategate' On A Locker Room Attendant (Original Post) kpete Jan 2015 OP
latest- ball boy took two bags of balls - 12 in each - into a bathroom for NRaleighLiberal Jan 2015 #1
Simple MohRokTah Jan 2015 #7
If you want to make such an outrageous claim, you'd better have a big sack of balls. Orrex Jan 2015 #9
What if there is another person or two in the bathroom to help? Are_grits_groceries Jan 2015 #10
And aliens padfun Jan 2015 #52
I was positing a real solution Are_grits_groceries Jan 2015 #54
is this the guy? MisterP Jan 2015 #2
LOL! Or... pinboy3niner Jan 2015 #8
Did it take 18 minutes to do? nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #53
guy wont care and wont talk. dilby Jan 2015 #3
Oh what a bunch of shit bluestateguy Jan 2015 #4
Yep! Hope it works. Too much distraction from yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #5
NFL said they have proof he had plastic surgery to have the pimples applied. n/t benz380 Jan 2015 #15
Sources are saying that the sticking point preventing him from completely coming forward... egduj Jan 2015 #6
So an employee of the Patriots did it. Iggo Jan 2015 #11
But pipi_k Jan 2015 #25
Under whose directive? I'm guessing another employee of the Patriots. Iggo Jan 2015 #37
And Tom Brady couldn't tell they were underinflated Greybnk48 Jan 2015 #12
And multiple officials couldn't tell moondust Jan 2015 #14
Again, only in the USA do people blame the officials joeglow3 Jan 2015 #19
It's not blame. moondust Jan 2015 #20
The only people I have seen say that are Patriot fans joeglow3 Jan 2015 #35
And the only people I've seen advance it are Patriot haters. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #41
I was rooting for Patriots before this joeglow3 Jan 2015 #44
It is the job of the officials to determine the balls former9thward Jan 2015 #32
That is secondary joeglow3 Jan 2015 #36
Agreed joeglow3! Greybnk48 Jan 2015 #50
Yeah, what a strategy!! pipi_k Jan 2015 #30
Just the latest in a seemingly endless parade of "bad apples". Frank Cannon Jan 2015 #13
Like the official Steriod Mule of the Seattle Seahawks, I'd wager. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #42
ALL NFL teams use the juice. Sadly, I accept that as a given. Frank Cannon Jan 2015 #48
This was as predictable as the sun rising in the east. bullwinkle428 Jan 2015 #16
wonder if any office pools were betting on when it would happen. KittyWampus Jan 2015 #28
Seems like he had practice to be so efficient. nt geek tragedy Jan 2015 #17
Ball pin, pressure gauge, and a thumb pressure release. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #29
Almost as if he does it all the time. Iggo Jan 2015 #38
Ages ago I worked in a tire shop. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #47
It's 7 seconds per ball. Frank Cannon Jan 2015 #49
Especially if you've been practing the trick since 2006. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #51
Do locker room attendants distribute the steroids too? B Calm Jan 2015 #18
I hope I'm not expected to believe they did this without any prompting from above CreekDog Jan 2015 #21
Another person of interest... pipi_k Jan 2015 #22
lmao KMOD Jan 2015 #40
Belichick hired Clemenza to hide the deflation apparatus... meaculpa2011 Jan 2015 #23
:) fishwax Jan 2015 #34
Snerk! cwydro Jan 2015 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #31
But here's the hilarious thing... pipi_k Jan 2015 #33
Here's another hilarious thing... Iggo Jan 2015 #39
Patriots will win the Super Bowl oberliner Jan 2015 #43
Preferable to scumbag Sherman preening and howling. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #45
Or Russell Wilson crediting his lord and savior for the victory oberliner Jan 2015 #46

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
1. latest- ball boy took two bags of balls - 12 in each - into a bathroom for
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:22 AM
Jan 2015

90 seconds. Patriots submitted the surveillance film themselves.

So how to deflate 11 of 12 balls to a precise level in 90 seconds from a big bag of balls?

Wow! What a mess. All news is from leaks. Love it.

Go Pats!

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
7. Simple
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 09:08 AM
Jan 2015

Put together a ball needle, a pressure gauge and a thumb release valve. Practice a little and 90 seconds becomes plenty of time.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
54. I was positing a real solution
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 04:02 AM
Jan 2015

for letting the air out of 12 footballs in 90 seconds. Another person is a logical conclusion. Your post is a stupid response. I have no idea whether the ball boy did anything or not. However, it could have happened.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
3. guy wont care and wont talk.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:57 AM
Jan 2015

He was probably paid 70k which is 10 times more than he was making for the part time job moving balls.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
4. Oh what a bunch of shit
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:58 AM
Jan 2015

And we're supposed to believe that a pimply faced kid masterminded this scheme on his own?

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
5. Yep! Hope it works. Too much distraction from
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 09:04 AM
Jan 2015

The real story which is the Superbowl is coming up. That should be the story. The media always make things worse. Go Patriots!

egduj

(805 posts)
6. Sources are saying that the sticking point preventing him from completely coming forward...
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 09:08 AM
Jan 2015

is what color the Mercedes will be that the Patriots are going to give him for falling on the sword.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
25. But
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:03 PM
Jan 2015

under whose directive?

that's what we don't know.

We also don't know where the ball boy took them before they got out onto the field.

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
37. Under whose directive? I'm guessing another employee of the Patriots.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 01:31 PM
Jan 2015

Conclusion: The Patriots are cheaters.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
12. And Tom Brady couldn't tell they were underinflated
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 10:05 AM
Jan 2015

the entire game? And none of his receivers could tell either? No one said that they may have been sabotaged so they could be accused of cheating?

Oh, well. The poor slob ball boy has probably been paid several million smackers to take the fall for Brady and Belichick. They got away with it, probably for the entire season it sounds like, and nothing will happen. That's how things are run now days across the board in the good old U.S.A.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
14. And multiple officials couldn't tell
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 10:11 AM
Jan 2015

despite handling the ball before every single play the Patriots ran?

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
19. Again, only in the USA do people blame the officials
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 10:40 AM
Jan 2015

We can't expect people to, you know, play fair. They HAVE to cheat and it is really the fault of the officials.

Fucking amazing.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
44. I was rooting for Patriots before this
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 02:13 PM
Jan 2015

I am not a Wilson fan and wanted him to lose. But, I hate cheaters more.

former9thward

(32,029 posts)
32. It is the job of the officials to determine the balls
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:16 PM
Jan 2015

are properly inflated. They handle the balls on every single play in every game. They know what is proper and what is not. It is their responsibility. Dead silence from them.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
50. Agreed joeglow3!
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 03:49 PM
Jan 2015

And no one can tell me that Tom Brady did not feel the difference immediately. The feel of a football is second nature to him. And the receivers would have known immediately too. They knew and they cheated. And they are NOT supposed to fucking cheat! Not to mention be permitted to pull it off.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
30. Yeah, what a strategy!!
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:13 PM
Jan 2015

BTW, you do know that Brady's passer rating for the season was not stellar, right?


http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr


Only #4.


Actually it might be a good strategy. Sort of Columbo-like in its brilliance.

Columbo always played dumb in order to catch the criminals, who underestimated him.

Same for the Patriots, right?

Deflate the balls a bit during the season, make people think he sucks.

Then when nobody's thinking they have much of a chance, reinflate the balls and win the whole picnic basket.


Oh, those devious rascals!!!



Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
13. Just the latest in a seemingly endless parade of "bad apples".
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 10:10 AM
Jan 2015

Another well-meaning but dimwitted underling who suddenly, under his own initiative, runs amuck and does something sleazy/illegal to help out his poor, sainted employer, who is always completely oblivious to his actions.

Bad, bad underling.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
42. Like the official Steriod Mule of the Seattle Seahawks, I'd wager.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 01:50 PM
Jan 2015

"Oh, I thought that was just fruit juice!"

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
48. ALL NFL teams use the juice. Sadly, I accept that as a given.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 03:34 PM
Jan 2015

I think I can also safely assume that all NFL teams don't underinflate their footballs to help decrease turnovers.

Guess we'll find out if that strategy actually mattered much this weekend.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
29. Ball pin, pressure gauge, and a thumb pressure release.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:11 PM
Jan 2015

2PSI per ball, 11 balls, 90 seconds?

It's doable if you practiced the the above setup.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
47. Ages ago I worked in a tire shop.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 02:24 PM
Jan 2015

I put together something similar to release pressure in tires to a desired pressure quickly. This was so we could blow up the tires a bit high and check for leaks, then adjust down to the desired pressure.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
49. It's 7 seconds per ball.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 03:43 PM
Jan 2015

Of course it's easily doable in 90 seconds. They're footballs, not truck tires.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
21. I hope I'm not expected to believe they did this without any prompting from above
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 10:55 AM
Jan 2015

Because I surely don't.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
22. Another person of interest...
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 11:31 AM
Jan 2015

Mike Kensil, who used to be with the Jets, who are quite possibly the biggest Patriots haters in America.


http://boston.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/who-exactly-is-mike-kensil-aka-the-ringleader-of-deflategate/


And, in case people forget, it was Eric Mangini, coach of the Jets, who first started the whole "Spygate" thing.


Also, a few weeks ago Bill Belichick lodged a complaint against Jets owner Woody Johnson for tampering with a Patriots player:


http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/01/18/jets-owner-accused-tampering-over-darrelle-revis-comment/jsValTFi5ZcC00XI3N7OIN/story.html?comments=all&sort=NEWEST_CREATE_DT


Certainly, no proof that anyone in the Jets organization, past or present, had anything to do with this latest bit of stupidity, but when trying to figure out a misdeed, it's always a good idea to look at motive.

What's more plausible...

A team that didn't need to cheat doing something shady with the footballs?

Or a couple of people out for revenge against someone they hate?

meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
23. Belichick hired Clemenza to hide the deflation apparatus...
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 11:39 AM
Jan 2015

in the bathroom.

The locker room attendant then asked for permission to go to the bathroom and...

POW!!!

Two stabs with the needle right between the logos.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
24. Snerk!
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 11:40 AM
Jan 2015

"Still gauging if any wrong doing occurred with him but he is strong person of interest"


gauging!?

Response to kpete (Original post)

Response to kpete (Original post)

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pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
33. But here's the hilarious thing...
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:25 PM
Jan 2015

If the pressure of the balls is that crucial, one would think that they would never be out of sight of the officials.

So I come to two conclusions...

1. The ball pressure isn't that big of a deal in the first place or

2. The NFL has judged that there's not enough time for monkey business in between when the officials check the balls and when the ball boy(s) get them to the field.


If ball pressure is that crucial, then maybe they need to be locked up in a special container and wheeled out to the field right after being checked so nobody can alter them.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
46. Or Russell Wilson crediting his lord and savior for the victory
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 02:16 PM
Jan 2015

Like JC doesn't have better things to do.

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