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TexasTowelie

(112,368 posts)
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 11:23 PM Jan 2015

Jesse Ventura won't see 'American Sniper,' says Chris Kyle is no hero

MINNEAPOLIS — "American Sniper" is tops at the box office, but don't expect to see former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura lining up at a theater for it.

Ventura, a former Navy SEAL, won $1.8 million in a defamation lawsuit last year against the estate of the late Chris Kyle, the SEAL protagonist of the movie, which has sparked debate over whether snipers should be considered heroes. Ventura said Wednesday he won't see the film partly because Kyle is no hero to him.

"A hero must be honorable, must have honor. And you can't have honor if you're a liar. There is no honor in lying," Ventura told The Associated Press from his winter home in Baja California, Mexico. He also noted that the movie isn't playing there.

Ventura also dismissed the movie as propaganda because it conveys the false idea that Iraq had something to do with the 9/11 attacks. "It's as authentic as 'Dirty Harry,'" he said, referring to fictional movie series starring Clint Eastwood, the director of "American Sniper."

Read more: http://www.dallasnews.com/entertainment/movies/headlines/20150128-jesse-ventura-won-t-see-american-sniper-says-chris-kyle-is-no-hero.ece

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Jesse Ventura won't see 'American Sniper,' says Chris Kyle is no hero (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jan 2015 OP
Comments on the article gabeana Jan 2015 #1
Ventura was in UDT's, not the SEALS Lurks Often Jan 2015 #7
You want balance? Mnpaul Jan 2015 #22
Where did this story supposedly take place?....Afghanistan? Hulk Jan 2015 #2
He has only served in Iraq JonLP24 Jan 2015 #3
he did four tours in Iraq Skittles Jan 2015 #16
I have seen Jesse Ventura several times with Veterans for Peace annm4peace Jan 2015 #4
The woman at the bar sitting next to Jesse Mnpaul Jan 2015 #8
It's actually a good movie yeoman6987 Feb 2015 #28
I agree. LuvNewcastle Jan 2015 #5
Kick and R. BeanMusical Jan 2015 #6
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #9
According to Eastwood it's an anti war movie... Blanks Jan 2015 #21
From the man who talks to chairs. CrispyQ Jan 2015 #24
I'm with you Jesse madokie Jan 2015 #10
I have a buddy that was an instructor at SERE school, it is all he talks about. Rex Jan 2015 #12
for us it was great madokie Jan 2015 #13
Wow, I wonder how you found time to sleep! Rex Jan 2015 #15
It was awesome madokie Jan 2015 #17
I have met Mr. Ventura. He is a gentleman. I do not agree with him on some things, but I found msanthrope Jan 2015 #11
Really takes guts for Ventura to call someone else out as a liar when he loves Rex Jan 2015 #14
The movie is just recruitment propanganda--the new "be all that you can be" bullshit. nt valerief Jan 2015 #18
Kind of wish Jesse would loose his Libertarian Politics. busterbrown Jan 2015 #19
You got dat right! n/t RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #20
K&R … It's about time some authority spoke up about this... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #23
The man who killed Kyle was found guilty last night. mimi85 Feb 2015 #25
And the Academy only gave the movie one award. mimi85 Feb 2015 #26
Article. nt mimi85 Feb 2015 #27

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
1. Comments on the article
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 11:59 PM
Jan 2015

are fun to read, mostly anti-Ventura these People have no clue at least Ventura was a Navy seal

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
22. You want balance?
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 09:34 PM
Jan 2015

Check out these:
http://comments.startribune.com/comments.php?d=content_comments&asset_id=290119661§ion=/entertainment/movies&comments=true

There is some epic smack down on the Jesse haters goin' on.

Also mentioned is the fact that even Kyle called Jesse a SEAL.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
2. Where did this story supposedly take place?....Afghanistan?
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 12:08 AM
Jan 2015

My sister came over last night and she had seen the movie. I told her I didn't plan to see it, and when I mentioned it took place in Iraq, she corrected me and told me it took place totally in Afghanistan. Any one able to tell me which?..or both? I can't stand the withered old fart, clint talks-to-a-chair, and I tend agree with the opinion glorifying murdering people who would probably do the same in this country if WE WERE INVADED is really hard to justify.

I'm a Vietnam vet, and I've seen enough of the ugly side of war to last me a lifetime. I won't go into it all, but I'll just say those people didn't want us there, most of them, and we did some really awful things to the country and the citizens on both sides of that ugly mess.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
3. He has only served in Iraq
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 12:11 AM
Jan 2015

Notably the Second Battle of Fallujah where many atrocities took place, including the indiscriminate killing by snipers.

I haven't seen the movie but I doubt the movie includes a lot of that.

Skittles

(153,174 posts)
16. he did four tours in Iraq
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:43 PM
Jan 2015

he was never in Afghanistan

of course, propaganda will make you think all kinds of things that are not true

annm4peace

(6,119 posts)
4. I have seen Jesse Ventura several times with Veterans for Peace
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 01:11 AM
Jan 2015

how Kyle described him was not a description of Jesse Ventura.

I could never imagine.. there is no way.. could I imagine him saying things to hurt Veterans.

assholes, yes.. but not what Kyle wrote in his book or said in interviews.


being a supporting member of Vets for Peace for the last 12 years.. and listening to speakers who are Veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan occupations, or family members, or from Iraqis or Afghans.. some children.

hearing from those both on the soldier side and on the Iraqi citizen side from Fallujah..

i would never, ever see American Sniper ... it is sickening.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
8. The woman at the bar sitting next to Jesse
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 02:46 PM
Jan 2015

claimed a different story. She said Jesse took at shot at Bush which makes more sense. I have never heard Jesse take a swipe at the soldiers.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
28. It's actually a good movie
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 05:31 AM
Feb 2015

Many saw it for you. Hard to believe it is less then 20 million until it is the number 1 movie of 2014. Kinda astounding for a little movie made for 50 million. Doing well overseas. It may make a half billion Worldwide by time it is done. You really should see it. You may be surprised that it is nothing like you think it is.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
9. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:07 PM
Jan 2015

Half the nation seems to think the US invaded Iraq for some noble cause. We don't need movies that rewrite history to favor the criminal Bush Administration.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
21. According to Eastwood it's an anti war movie...
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 08:06 PM
Jan 2015
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6547068

Of course any war movie that shows the pain caused by war is an anti war movie.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
10. I'm with you Jesse
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:12 PM
Jan 2015

Jesse possibly came through SERE school while I was stationed there. amazing that
100 of us were stationed there at the school and we all had a hand in training.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. I have a buddy that was an instructor at SERE school, it is all he talks about.
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:17 PM
Jan 2015

Must have been a blast, for the instructors. Not so much for the students I bet.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
13. for us it was great
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:31 PM
Jan 2015

going through the class sucked big time though. My work week was 27 hours for the navy except the one week out of 5 I had duty then it was way more. I kept a full time job busing tables at the Warner Springs Resort. Served John Wayne, Glen Campbell and entourage while they were filming true grit near there. We weren't allowed to seek autographs or photos though. We were told they were there to unwind and escape the rigors of filming. Got to speak to them though, in fact we had some lively conversations. I'm an okie with a deep okie drawl so they liked to hear me talk, I think that was it anyway. Good times my time at SERE school
When I left heading to VN I was debriefed and was told to not talk about anything that we did at the school and for the most part I still don't. It was top secret duty, the average joe couldn't make it. I guess the reason I did was I was country with a clean as a whistle record. No blemishes at all. As far as I know I'd still have that top secret clearance and am still bound by the rules that were laid out to me upon my leaving there for 'nam. At any rate I'm not going to take any chances as I like my freedom.

I'd make as much in one night of busing tables as I'd get for two weeks pay from the navy

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
15. Wow, I wonder how you found time to sleep!
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:37 PM
Jan 2015

Awesome that you got to meet The Duke and a country legend like Campbell...I can still hear him singing, "like a rhinestone cowboy" dun dun dun...that's etched into my brain forever until I die.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
17. It was awesome
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 05:10 PM
Jan 2015

I wish I could have brought a memento home with me of that week but no dice. I guess I could have snook our a fork, a spoon or something and had it etched that the big man eat out of this or something. I was having too good of a time having a good time to worry with any of that though
It was a high dollar joint. This was back in '68-'69 and it seems that the cover charge just to come through the door of the restaurant was more than my navy pay for a month was.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
11. I have met Mr. Ventura. He is a gentleman. I do not agree with him on some things, but I found
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:16 PM
Jan 2015

that his manner of speaking was direct and courteous, so one could actually disagree with candor, vigor, and politeness.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. Really takes guts for Ventura to call someone else out as a liar when he loves
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:32 PM
Jan 2015

to go on shows like Alex Jones and lie his ass off about some crazy CTs. Besides, Ventura is lying about being a SEAL, he was NEVER a SEAL. YES there is a difference between UDT and SEALS...that is why they are called two different things!

Really, Ventura should just be proud of being a Frogman...no need to pretend to be a SEAL.

That's like me, a former ground surveillance system operator, pretending to be a counter-intelligence officer. Sure we both worked together and our MOS were just a few letters apart...but we were NOT the same MOS!

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
23. K&R … It's about time some authority spoke up about this...
Thu Jan 29, 2015, 09:46 PM
Jan 2015

With all the hype, distribution and MSM masterbatory coverage, is it little wonder that it's a "box office hit"?

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
25. The man who killed Kyle was found guilty last night.
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 04:55 AM
Feb 2015

And Kyle killed more people than his killer. Disgusting.

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